My Panamera station wagon will be here soon...

My Panamera station wagon will be here soon...

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RDMcG

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19,517 posts

214 months

Sunday 24th December 2017
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Should be an interesting addition to the garage as a DD - it is somewhere in mid Atlantic right now:


EJH

955 posts

216 months

Sunday 24th December 2017
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That looks very cool...and it's so nice to see colour on cars in these days where black, white, silver and grey are the norm!

Does delivery to Canada mean that this one won't be going around the 'ring?

RDMcG

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214 months

Sunday 24th December 2017
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EJH said:
That looks very cool...and it's so nice to see colour on cars in these days where black, white, silver and grey are the norm!

Does delivery to Canada mean that this one won't be going around the 'ring?
Its does not!..I will Ro-Ro it to Hamburg or Bremerhaven in May for pickup June and I will go to the NS of course. This is a LOT different to my normal RS experience there, so it will be a lot slower for sure - I think it would require a lot of skill to max this thing there...more than I have no doubtsmile

Taffy66

5,964 posts

109 months

Sunday 24th December 2017
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I picked my Sport Turismo about two weeks ago..Mine is Jet Black,black rims,black sports tail pipes with privacy glass and Panoramic roof. I p/xed my five month white Panamera for it as i much preferred the look of the Sport Turismo..The third rear seat is a lot more practical than it looks as i'm a broad shouldered 5' 10 1/2'' was able to sit in it with my similar sized sales guy sat next to me.
The bigger trunk is only 25L bigger but the shape and low loading height make it much more practical than the Panamera saloon..It looks good sat in my garage next to my new GT3.2 in Racing yellow. Totally polar opposite Porsches yet i love them both for obviously different reasons.
Merry Christmas and i wish we had Canada's white Christmas rather our wet muggy one..

RDMcG

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19,517 posts

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Sunday 24th December 2017
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Taffy66 said:
I picked my Sport Turismo about two weeks ago..Mine is Jet Black,black rims,black sports tail pipes with privacy glass and Panoramic roof. I p/xed my five month white Panamera for it as i much preferred the look of the Sport Turismo..The third rear seat is a lot more practical than it looks as i'm a broad shouldered 5' 10 1/2'' was able to sit in it with my similar sized sales guy sat next to me.
The bigger trunk is only 25L bigger but the shape and low loading height make it much more practical than the Panamera saloon..It looks good sat in my garage next to my new GT3.2 in Racing yellow. Totally polar opposite Porsches yet i love them both for obviously different reasons.
Merry Christmas and i wish we had Canada's white Christmas rather our wet muggy one..
Big snowstorm coming in in a couple of hours.

I agree that the Sport Turismo is not a giant leap in practicality from the normal Panamera, but ,like you, I do think it a much.much better looking vehicle. As I have a Great Dane which will not fit in the luggage area I am keeping my elderly Cayenne for dog dutiessmile

Enjoy the break, and great choices of cars!

EJH

955 posts

216 months

Sunday 24th December 2017
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RDMcG said:
Its does not!..I will Ro-Ro it to Hamburg or Bremerhaven in May for pickup June and I will go to the NS of course. This is a LOT different to my normal RS experience there, so it will be a lot slower for sure - I think it would require a lot of skill to max this thing there...more than I have no doubtsmile
Very, very cool. I look forward to the write-up! I think I know my (rather lower) limitations...and hence have never driven the NS.

Re: the dog (and accepting GDs aren't small), can they fit in with the seats folded? I believe you can buy dog-covers for some cars (aunt and uncle had a dog kit that clipped in for their E39, covering seats and doors, etc...albeit for a far smaller dog!).


RDMcG

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Sunday 24th December 2017
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EJH said:
Very, very cool. I look forward to the write-up! I think I know my (rather lower) limitations...and hence have never driven the NS.

Re: the dog (and accepting GDs aren't small), can they fit in with the seats folded? I believe you can buy dog-covers for some cars (aunt and uncle had a dog kit that clipped in for their E39, covering seats and doors, etc...albeit for a far smaller dog!).
Yes a Great Dane could fit with seats folded but its a bit dangerous to have a big dog roaming loose - with the Cayenne she is behind a dog grille that is permanently affixed and the rear seatback up

It also prevents shoulder droolsmile

RDMcG

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Sunday 24th December 2017
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You do not want something this size over your shouldersmile

EJH

955 posts

216 months

Sunday 24th December 2017
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RDMcG said:


You do not want something this size over your shouldersmile
Very good points.

(She's beautiful!)

MDL111

7,177 posts

184 months

Monday 25th December 2017
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RDMcG said:
EJH said:
Very, very cool. I look forward to the write-up! I think I know my (rather lower) limitations...and hence have never driven the NS.

Re: the dog (and accepting GDs aren't small), can they fit in with the seats folded? I believe you can buy dog-covers for some cars (aunt and uncle had a dog kit that clipped in for their E39, covering seats and doors, etc...albeit for a far smaller dog!).
Yes a Great Dane could fit with seats folded but its a bit dangerous to have a big dog roaming loose - with the Cayenne she is behind a dog grille that is permanently affixed and the rear seatback up

It also prevents shoulder droolsmile
My car has a little latch in the back wall that I can clip my dogs lead into, so he can move side to side, but cant reach the front seats (fixed to his harness)

RDMcG

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Monday 25th December 2017
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With a dog the size of a Dane she could swing round if tethered that way in the event of an accident. She naturally lies down in the rear deck of the Cayenne and has the dog grille to prevent head on the shoulder issues for rear seat passengers.
The Pana has a very low roofline so doubt she will fit. I will of course try it but think she will be more tightly confined than Hannibal
Lechter in a straitjacket.

jackliebling

506 posts

180 months

Monday 25th December 2017
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Great taste in dogs...

Not sure about the car... My eyes, my eyes!

(beauty is in the eye of the beholder...)

Turn7

24,155 posts

228 months

Monday 25th December 2017
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That actually makes the pan look good, the proportions are way better...enjoy the new toy sir !

RDMcG

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Monday 25th December 2017
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Turn7 said:
That actually makes the pan look good, the proportions are way better...enjoy the new toy sir !
I like the look but doubtless it will not work for some, and an all-red car with all the chrome blacked out is definitely going to turn some people off. Luckily there are lots of other choices. I recall when I bought a Bangle 645ci and then the E63 M6 I took a lot of comments about how ugly these cars were. very fair comments, but I liked the look of them then and I still dosmile

I probably just have bad taste in cars.

DeltaOne

560 posts

220 months

Tuesday 26th December 2017
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Taffy66 said:
I picked my Sport Turismo about two weeks ago..Mine is Jet Black,black rims,black sports tail pipes with privacy glass and Panoramic roof. I p/xed my five month white Panamera for it as i much preferred the look of the Sport Turismo..The third rear seat is a lot more practical than it looks as i'm a broad shouldered 5' 10 1/2'' was able to sit in it with my similar sized sales guy sat next to me.
The bigger trunk is only 25L bigger but the shape and low loading height make it much more practical than the Panamera saloon..It looks good sat in my garage next to my new GT3.2 in Racing yellow. Totally polar opposite Porsches yet i love them both for obviously different reasons.
Merry Christmas and i wish we had Canada's white Christmas rather our wet muggy one..
Interestin observation on the third seat. I recently had a few days with one for a look at replacing my E63S AMG, and found the third seat smaller than I’d have liked. To be fair its more my youngest daughter (who would be sitting there) rather than me who preferred the Mercedes. Its not so much the seat itself but the transmission tunnel......

First world problem of course.

irocfan

42,391 posts

197 months

Tuesday 26th December 2017
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TBH I'm not a fan of the Panamera (Porsche will be devastated no doubt!) but that really does look good, great colour choice too!

RDMcG

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Tuesday 26th December 2017
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irocfan said:
TBH I'm not a fan of the Panamera (Porsche will be devastated no doubt!) but that really does look good, great colour choice too!
Until this version showed up I was no fan either. The first version was a fright pig and the second, while much better was not great. I do think this will have limited appeal but eventually my Cayenne will give up the ghost and I will also likely get a smaller dog ( not soon I hope) . Will hang on to the current sports cars but realistically , at 69 years old , how many more will I buy? This is a nice transition car, superb for the multi-thousand mile trips I habitually take.
In the summer,apart from a Ring visit I will do a long run through Germany and maybe Italy.

This will be a ten year car I imagine. (My current garage is 14,12,10,10,5,and 2 years old).
Might do one more RS when the 992 shows up but do not have the burning desire I once had despite being in good physical shape.

At some point we all are affected by age and I feel lucky to be able to still work quite a lot and do everything I have always done.

However time flies and even the passion I have always had for the internal combustion engine will be a thing of the past. The day of electric cars is nigh. Not tomorrow but I have a strong feeling that this type of car, big turbo V8 , no hybrid, is on the endangered list.

So I am going to have fun with it smile

Taffy66

5,964 posts

109 months

Tuesday 26th December 2017
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DeltaOne said:
Interestin observation on the third seat. I recently had a few days with one for a look at replacing my E63S AMG, and found the third seat smaller than I’d have liked. To be fair its more my youngest daughter (who would be sitting there) rather than me who preferred the Mercedes. Its not so much the seat itself but the transmission tunnel......

First world problem of course.
I need to clarify my post i think..My initial thoughts on the middle rear seat based on appearance was that they seemed useless..I expressed my views to the sales guy, who then suggested i try them out..Despite being awkward for ingress/egress as you quite rightly point out ,once seated i found plentiful headroom(Panoramic roof helps) and sufficient shoulder/legroom although i wouldn't want to spend a long time there. For a smaller person/child i think they imbue the Sport Turismo with extra practicality which was totally absent from my strict four seat Panny saloon.

RDMcG

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Tuesday 26th December 2017
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Taffy66 said:
I need to clarify my post i think..My initial thoughts on the middle rear seat based on appearance was that they seemed useless..I expressed my views to the sales guy, who then suggested i try them out..Despite being awkward for ingress/egress as you quite rightly point out ,once seated i found plentiful headroom(Panoramic roof helps) and sufficient shoulder/legroom although i wouldn't want to spend a long time there. For a smaller person/child i think they imbue the Sport Turismo with extra practicality which was totally absent from my strict four seat Panny saloon.
Agree that for occasional use , particularly for a kid, it is an improvement. Still, sitting splay legged for any time is not great:

About a minute into this vid review you can see the seating clearly:.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7YzyeKh44A

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

203 months

Tuesday 26th December 2017
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I'm a sucker for wheels painted in body colour, car looks great R-looking forward to seeing some pics when it arrives.