Cayenne - diesel or diesel s

[cowboyengineer]

Ok, I it looks like I'm buying a Cayenne, mainly for towing 3.5 tonnes as well as being my main do it anything vehicle. I have a boxster gts for fun and speed.

I went to buy a new Cayenne, quite high species came in at £70175 which with the deposit is working out at around £870 a month.

However. They have an ex demo cayenne diesel s, about 10000 miles on the clock, which, with the same deposit it works out at £800 a month.

Two things out me off the s - fuel economy, and it doesn't have self levelling air suspension. Does this matter when towing a 3.5t trailer? And what's real world economy like. It's going to be doing around 15000-20000 a year?

However it is 70 a month cheaper which would go some way to paying the extra fuel and it's got a v8

[Taffy66]

cowboyengineer said:

Ok, I it looks like I'm buying a Cayenne, mainly for towing 3.5 tonnes as well as being my main do it anything vehicle. I have a boxster gts for fun and speed.

I went to buy a new Cayenne, quite high species came in at £70175 which with the deposit is working out at around £870 a month.

However. They have an ex demo cayenne diesel s, about 10000 miles on the clock, which, with the same deposit it works out at £800 a month.

Two things out me off the s - fuel economy, and it doesn't have self levelling air suspension. Does this matter when towing a 3.5t trailer? And what's real world economy like. It's going to be doing around 15000-20000 a year?

However it is 70 a month cheaper which would go some way to paying the extra fuel and it's got a v8

Hi there,i have owned and towed both a cayenne diesel and diesel V8s prior to my current e-hybrid.None of them had air and imho not needed but PASM is essential,avoid 21'' wheels if possible and if not air advised.In terms of comparing them for towing V8s is superior to the V6 because of the 200lb/ft which makes towing totally effortless.As for economy in day to day driving very little difference as the V8S has to downshift less often due to torque(circa 2 to 3mpg); hope this helps.

[CayenneWkr]

I get ~25mpg from my S Diesel

[Koln-RS]

You might get your fingers burnt if you buy new - there's a new one fairy imminent.

[IPK]

Taffy66 said:

Hi there,i have owned and towed both a cayenne diesel and diesel V8s prior to my current e-hybrid.None of them had air and imho not needed but PASM is essential,avoid 21'' wheels if possible and if not air advised.In terms of comparing them for towing V8s is superior to the V6 because of the 200lb/ft which makes towing totally effortless.As for economy in day to day driving very little difference as the V8S has to downshift less often due to torque(circa 2 to 3mpg); hope this helps.

Sorry to hijack the thread. How do you find the e-hybrid? i've just come back from back to back testing of a diesel V8 S and an e-hybrid and I have to say I was very impressed with the hybrid and am close to buying a stock car. I drove the V8 S afterwards and that might have been a mistake!

i've owned a 3.0 D and found it more than adequate. Driving the 4.2 just and it's an absolute animal!

[nutsytvr]

I tow an 1800kg caravan with my v8. Has Air and 18" wheels. I am getting circa 32mpg solo and 20ish when towing. 2000 miles to Provence and back with the van, autoroute all the way, averaged 22mpg at 100kph steady speed. I think the 3.0 v6 would be a bit under powered for a 3500 trailer. The 850nm of torque makes towing a doddle. On French autoroutes very rarely drops below 7th gear, hence good mpg.

[Taffy66]

IPK said:

Taffy66 said:

Hi there,i have owned and towed both a cayenne diesel and diesel V8s prior to my current e-hybrid.None of them had air and imho not needed but PASM is essential,avoid 21'' wheels if possible and if not air advised.In terms of comparing them for towing V8s is superior to the V6 because of the 200lb/ft which makes towing totally effortless.As for economy in day to day driving very little difference as the V8S has to downshift less often due to torque(circa 2 to 3mpg); hope this helps.

Sorry to hijack the thread. How do you find the e-hybrid? i've just come back from back to back testing of a diesel V8 S and an e-hybrid and I have to say I was very impressed with the hybrid and am close to buying a stock car. I drove the V8 S afterwards and that might have been a mistake!

i've owned a 3.0 D and found it more than adequate. Driving the 4.2 just and it's an absolute animal!

My current e-hybrid is superb and about as fast as my old V8s diesel although delivered in a different manner.By this i mean you can't drive it on a tidal wave of torque as the V8 although throttle response is electric esp in sport mode.When caught dawdling behind slow traffic and you engage kickdown it goes off like a scalded cat where in the same scenario in the V8 diesel there's a slight delay as if its filling its lungs before shooting off,the e-hybrid is more sporty when driven quickly due to much wider powerband.The V8s sounds much better and tows better due to superior torque.
My main reason for changing to the e-hybrid in Nov 14 was as a self employed high rate tax-payer i was able to claim 100% first yr WDA which reduced my tax liability last year by £30,000 and 0% road tax although these perks might not still apply;economy on both is very similar at circa 30mpg unless you do less than 15mile commutes all the time on a full charge where no petrol at all is used!.

[IPK]

Taffy66 said:

IPK said:

Taffy66 said:

Hi there,i have owned and towed both a cayenne diesel and diesel V8s prior to my current e-hybrid.None of them had air and imho not needed but PASM is essential,avoid 21'' wheels if possible and if not air advised.In terms of comparing them for towing V8s is superior to the V6 because of the 200lb/ft which makes towing totally effortless.As for economy in day to day driving very little difference as the V8S has to downshift less often due to torque(circa 2 to 3mpg); hope this helps.

Sorry to hijack the thread. How do you find the e-hybrid? i've just come back from back to back testing of a diesel V8 S and an e-hybrid and I have to say I was very impressed with the hybrid and am close to buying a stock car. I drove the V8 S afterwards and that might have been a mistake!

i've owned a 3.0 D and found it more than adequate. Driving the 4.2 just and it's an absolute animal!

My current e-hybrid is superb and about as fast as my old V8s diesel although delivered in a different manner.By this i mean you can't drive it on a tidal wave of torque as the V8 although throttle response is electric esp in sport mode.When caught dawdling behind slow traffic and you engage kickdown it goes off like a scalded cat where in the same scenario in the V8 diesel there's a slight delay as if its filling its lungs before shooting off,the e-hybrid is more sporty when driven quickly due to much wider powerband.The V8s sounds much better and tows better due to superior torque.
My main reason for changing to the e-hybrid in Nov 14 was as a self employed high rate tax-payer i was able to claim 100% first yr WDA which reduced my tax liability last year by £30,000 and 0% road tax although these perks might not still apply;economy on both is very similar at circa 30mpg unless you do less than 15mile commutes all the time on a full charge where no petrol at all is used!.

Many thanks.