Cayenne face lift '07 - '09 which model for the family?

Cayenne face lift '07 - '09 which model for the family?

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97BlackC5

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352 posts

245 months

Tuesday 6th October 2015
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As far as I can ascertain there are 4 model's made during this face lift period: the 3.6ltr, 4.8s, 4.8 GTS & the 4.8 Turbo. With the GTS & Turbo the body styling appears to be post 2010 in appearance whilst the 3.6 & the 4.8s appear to maintain the 2007 - 2009 body style. All 4 models have the same 2007 - 2009 interior.

I am looking to spend around £15-£18k on one of these & my question is does anyone have any opinions on any of these models as a family SUV. I was originally thinking about the 3.6ltr just really because of the fuel economy. However after doing a bit of research it seems that with the exception of the turbo they all seem to be fairly similar, is anyone able to shed some light on this? I am coming from a Jeep Grand Cherokee diesel that seems to avg around 26/27 mpg. Would I be left in a state of shock if I were to buy a GTS????

There are certainly more 3.6ltr's around just wondered what the Cayenne masses think......

I originally posted this in the Porsche General forum but did not get much of a response, not realising there is a front engined forum Doh!

One final question my budget dose seem to stretch to a 100k plus mileage Turbo or GTS , which one of these is considered 'top of the range' & also would they be more likely to be expensive trouble even if I managed to find a low owner car with full service history?

majordad

3,613 posts

204 months

Wednesday 7th October 2015
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I think your questions are a bit too general , maybe that's why you've not had fast replies, but it could also be that Cayenne Owners are less in numbers on here and less likely to post . I've driven my 2004 Cayenne Manual S for the past eight years. It's not what you're asking about but one thing for sure is you will notice the fuel consumption increase in a big way coming from a diesel jeep. You will be lucky to average 20 mpg .

Cayenne is a great Porsche though.

unclepezza

790 posts

150 months

Wednesday 7th October 2015
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Had two cayennes, a turbo and a turbo S both 1st generations.

The 2006 Turbo S has been the better car with more reliable electrics and just seems more sorted, had a battery drain on my 05 MY turbo that would drain a fully charged battery in 4 days. No difference in MPG, avg 20mpg and we also came from a 2.7 CRD Jeep, which we avg 27mpg.

The Cayenne is a huge improvement in every area over the Jeep.

We now need to have two cars in the family so the Cayenne will have to go but it has been a great car that handles anything thats thrown at it, from kid duties to long trips just takes it all in it's stride, and the Turbo/S performance defies physics!

97BlackC5

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352 posts

245 months

Wednesday 7th October 2015
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Ok so just been trawling through the classifieds & seen a few GTS's for round £17500 mark all seen to have between 115k & 135k plus miles on the clock but with low owners & full Porsche service history. Can anyone tell me if high mileage GTS's are just expensive trouble waiting to happen or would full Porsche service history be enough for you to take the plunge???

unclepezza

790 posts

150 months

Wednesday 7th October 2015
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97BlackC5 said:
Ok so just been trawling through the classifieds & seen a few GTS's for round £17500 mark all seen to have between 115k & 135k plus miles on the clock but with low owners & full Porsche service history. Can anyone tell me if high mileage GTS's are just expensive trouble waiting to happen or would full Porsche service history be enough for you to take the plunge???
Full history just means its been serviced to schedule. Things wear out the more they are used and then need replacing, the cars are all approaching ten years old, Mk1 version is over ten years and you will need replacement parts on them, coil packs are a favourite, discs and pads, tyres plus the drive shaft bearing are all points that will need ongoing attention.

Still a great car, I always looked at the overall car (mileage history, spec and importantly overall condition) and preferred to buy privately to see the car before it had been prepared to sell by a dealer.

There are some very highly spec'd cars out there and the GTS and Turbo will have similar running costs with the turbo having the allegedly more robust engine.

Get the newest turbo you can find within budget that has been well looked after, if the mileage is low then that's a bonus.



Edited by unclepezza on Wednesday 7th October 13:46

97BlackC5

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352 posts

245 months

Wednesday 7th October 2015
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unclepezza said:
the GTS and Turbo will have similar running costs with the turbo having the allegedly more robust engine.

Edited by unclepezza on Wednesday 7th October 13:46
Whats wrong with the GTS engine vs the Turbo? I thought they were the same, just the Turbo model was (obviously) turdo charged?

unclepezza

790 posts

150 months

Wednesday 7th October 2015
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Certainly on the Mk1 Cayenne the turbo has the more durable block and cylinder liners so a much reduced risk of bore scoring which has shown itself on the normally aspirated V8 model.

97BlackC5

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352 posts

245 months

Thursday 8th October 2015
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Another quick question......is there a 3.6ltr 'S' ? If there is, what is the difference between the 3.6ltr Cayenne & the 3.6ltr 'S' version?

randlemarcus

13,599 posts

238 months

Thursday 8th October 2015
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97BlackC5 said:
Another quick question......is there a 3.6ltr 'S' ? If there is, what is the difference between the 3.6ltr Cayenne & the 3.6ltr 'S' version?
As an ex 3.6 S owner, avoid. Its underpowered, so works harder, so the fuel is about the same as the big boys. They are remarkably cheap for a reason.

Pope

2,644 posts

254 months

Saturday 10th October 2015
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The Cayenne V6 from 2008 is a 3.6l version of the VW VR6 derived common head V6 and is known as the Cayenne (previously 3.2l)

The Cayenne S was 4.8l V8

There was also a diesel available from 2008 - using a Porsche tuned Audi derived 3.0 V6 tdi

The Cayenne S from MY15 has a 3.6l twin turbo engine - shared with the Panamera S and Macan turbo

97BlackC5

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352 posts

245 months

Tuesday 20th October 2015
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Picked up my (new to me) 2008 Cayenne 3.6ltr last Saturday, massive step up in build quality from the '04 plate Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland!!! Quick question though......Heated steering wheel, does it come on / turn off automatically at a set internal / external temperature? Doesn't seem to have an on/off button like the 2010 face lift model?

MrMT

90 posts

196 months

Tuesday 20th October 2015
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Well done! Pics??

In my 05 Cayenne the wheel heating was automatic, activated below 10 degrees I believe. Also dependent on other parameters such as engine temp, cabin temp etc.

Cayenneand996

750 posts

270 months

Wednesday 21st October 2015
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and in my car (turbo S) by the position of the heated mirror switch

97BlackC5

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352 posts

245 months

Wednesday 21st October 2015
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Ok owned it for nearly 1 week & found my first fault. Just wondering if anyone else has ever had this. I flicked the windscreen wiper backwards to spray the rear screen & no water came out of the jet.......however I could hear a spray noise from the base of the drivers side windscreen pillar & after a few squirts I noticed the drivers side foot well carpet was now soaking wet. Does anyone know whether or not the routing for the washer tubing runs around that area? If so I may just need new tubing? I was diagnosing this in the dark tonight so will need to have a good look around in the daylight.

Any ideas, I will be contacting the garage I bought it from to see if they can sort it for me. But seeing as it is a fair drive from where I live if there is a simple fix I may attempt it myself.

majordad

3,613 posts

204 months

Thursday 22nd October 2015
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Heated steering wheel activates below 11 C.

97BlackC5

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352 posts

245 months

Wednesday 11th November 2015
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Update on the water leak......after much googling, I worked out it was probably a split washer tube, split at the base of the A pillar. I took the Cayenne to Elite Porsche in Belvedere & they confirmed my suspicions. They then told me that Porsche actually do a fixing kit for the issue. I left it with them & they ordered the kit & fixed it for me for a very reasonable price, can well recommend them.

speedyyellow

31 posts

163 months

Wednesday 16th March 2016
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So a few months in how is life going with the Cayenne?

majordad

3,613 posts

204 months

Wednesday 16th March 2016
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I just done 6000 miles in my 2013 Diesel which I bought in Nov 2015 at 33.6 mpg average to date. Car is superb. 21" sports design wheels and air suspension. SO comfortable and yet niffty too. Bought it from OPC Belfast and treated very well there.

drellis

83 posts

247 months

Saturday 19th March 2016
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bought a cayenne turbo with a broken engine, sent it to poland for complete rebuild (new liners so no more bore scoring). Wow it is competant, so docile unless you push into the carpet and its dam quick. economy not bad i dont think, average 15.9. My audi s4 did 14.9. So i dont think the turbo is much worse than the other petrol engines in the range but you have warp drive should you want, also they come very well specced which i think makes them great value

97BlackC5

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352 posts

245 months

Saturday 2nd April 2016
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I've been out of action for a few months but now back with the Cayenne & loving it so thought I'd add a couple of pics.