Manual cayenne advice
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Hi all looking to buy a porsche cayenne 3.2 v6 with a manual gearbox as my daily driver i only do around 6-8k a year and its going to accompany my 996 turbo,
just want some advice on running costs, performance and what it's like with a manual gearbox as there don't seem to be many around.
just want some advice on running costs, performance and what it's like with a manual gearbox as there don't seem to be many around.
The general consensus is that the performance is inadequate and the real world running costs no lower than a V8, QED buy a V8
I wouldn't have thought the gearbox would have much influence when choosing between a 3.2 manual and 4.5 manual. It will be a pain to use though, just like a manual Mercedes, having to use your left foot for the handbrake (oh, alright, parking brake).
One of the things that impresses me the most about the Cayenne auto box is that it has an automatic rollback prevention system - no matter how steep the hill you stop, just take your foot off the gas and the car stays where it is, the transmission effectively works like a ratchet, so with no resistance at all (such as it would have if using an electronic handbrake to hold it instead), you just hit the gas and set off smoothly up the hill again. By contrast a manual one will be far worse than a conventional manual (i.e. with a handbrake you operate with your hand), due to having to dance on all 4 of the pedals each time you pull to a halt on a slope.
I'm sure you have your reasons for wanting a manual (or thinking that you do) but if you haven't done so, definitely try an auto before committing to buying one.
I wouldn't have thought the gearbox would have much influence when choosing between a 3.2 manual and 4.5 manual. It will be a pain to use though, just like a manual Mercedes, having to use your left foot for the handbrake (oh, alright, parking brake).
One of the things that impresses me the most about the Cayenne auto box is that it has an automatic rollback prevention system - no matter how steep the hill you stop, just take your foot off the gas and the car stays where it is, the transmission effectively works like a ratchet, so with no resistance at all (such as it would have if using an electronic handbrake to hold it instead), you just hit the gas and set off smoothly up the hill again. By contrast a manual one will be far worse than a conventional manual (i.e. with a handbrake you operate with your hand), due to having to dance on all 4 of the pedals each time you pull to a halt on a slope.
I'm sure you have your reasons for wanting a manual (or thinking that you do) but if you haven't done so, definitely try an auto before committing to buying one.
I have a 2004 Cayenne 4.5 litre S model, manual shift, Its over 10 Years old and I'm the second owner and had it for the last 7 Years, I have also owned a 3.2 and Turbo model (Auto's), but this car I have now is the only manual car I have ever driven, and I really like it. It is used fairly often for towing, and is an everyday car for myself or my wife (she also likes the manual), it's a clever bit of kit and you soon get used to the handbrake system. I recently drove from Knaresborough to Liverpool and back with my trailer to collect a car and on that journey the car did 24mpg, The car has done 115,000 miles and has been serviced every Year, and still has the original clutch, battery, exhaust etc...all it has needed on top of servicing has been new brakes, tyres, handbrake pull cable (from lever on dash), water pump and coil packs. I think they are great cars, very well made, but I do believe in servicing every Year, not every 2 years or 20,000 miles.
Andrew.
Andrew.
thegoose said:
The general consensus is that the performance is inadequate and the real world running costs no lower than a V8, QED buy a V8
I wouldn't have thought the gearbox would have much influence when choosing between a 3.2 manual and 4.5 manual. It will be a pain to use though, just like a manual Mercedes, having to use your left foot for the handbrake (oh, alright, parking brake).
One of the things that impresses me the most about the Cayenne auto box is that it has an automatic rollback prevention system - no matter how steep the hill you stop, just take your foot off the gas and the car stays where it is, the transmission effectively works like a ratchet, so with no resistance at all (such as it would have if using an electronic handbrake to hold it instead), you just hit the gas and set off smoothly up the hill again. By contrast a manual one will be far worse than a conventional manual (i.e. with a handbrake you operate with your hand), due to having to dance on all 4 of the pedals each time you pull to a halt on a slope.
I'm sure you have your reasons for wanting a manual (or thinking that you do) but if you haven't done so, definitely try an auto before committing to buying one.
+1 - I'm not generally an auto fan, but for the kind of car the Cayenne is - it works very well. Plus, you can always stick it in manual mode if you want which is pretty good (and essential for engine braking when it snows). Personally, having owned an auto Cayenne for a couple of years now - if I was buying another one now and given the choice between an auto and a manual - I'd choose the auto. (Note, I also have a 996 turbo like the OP which I would only ever have as manual!).I wouldn't have thought the gearbox would have much influence when choosing between a 3.2 manual and 4.5 manual. It will be a pain to use though, just like a manual Mercedes, having to use your left foot for the handbrake (oh, alright, parking brake).
One of the things that impresses me the most about the Cayenne auto box is that it has an automatic rollback prevention system - no matter how steep the hill you stop, just take your foot off the gas and the car stays where it is, the transmission effectively works like a ratchet, so with no resistance at all (such as it would have if using an electronic handbrake to hold it instead), you just hit the gas and set off smoothly up the hill again. By contrast a manual one will be far worse than a conventional manual (i.e. with a handbrake you operate with your hand), due to having to dance on all 4 of the pedals each time you pull to a halt on a slope.
I'm sure you have your reasons for wanting a manual (or thinking that you do) but if you haven't done so, definitely try an auto before committing to buying one.
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