Momo steering wheel

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porscheman944

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60 posts

137 months

Friday 2nd May 2014
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Just fitted a Momo steering wheel to my 944,but horn will not work,cleaned all connections.

Anyone had this problem or offer any advise

benjj

6,787 posts

170 months

Monday 12th May 2014
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Mine was the same, the boss kit didn't come with a ground so we needed to add one. 2 minute job.

porscheman944

Original Poster:

60 posts

137 months

Monday 12th May 2014
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Manythanks will try it

GC8

19,910 posts

197 months

Monday 12th May 2014
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Easy there Tiger.

Do you have the correct boss for your car? Is it a genuine Momo part of a cheapo Chinese copy, or from another brand?

Does it have an integrated horn ring or does it use the original Porsche part taken off the rear of the original wheel?

What year car do you own and did you buy the boss new or used?

It may be that it needs w wipe, but it is far more likely that it is the wrong part and a wiring fire will be likely outcome!

porscheman944

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60 posts

137 months

Monday 12th May 2014
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Are you saying dont add an earth wire?

The boss is a genuine Momo part,there is only 1 connection on the Momo wheel horn button, but viewing the ones on ebay they have 2,maybe I should refit the original wheel to my 1990 S2, if it is going to turn into a problem for me, thought it just might be a straight forward swap over


GC8

19,910 posts

197 months

Monday 12th May 2014
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So: you car is a series two 944 and you are using a Momo boss. This means that it has an integrated horn ring, making it model specific (all 944s from September 1985 and all 968s).

Did you buy the Boss new or are you relying on someone elses description? In my experience many vendors write 924/944/968/(828 even, sometimes!) with little idea what really fits what. If you are certain that the boss suits an oval dash 944 then there wont be any risk of melting anything.

Can you take a photo of the horn ring, and pressed metal spacers used to mount the horn button and the wire (most Momo wheels other than a Prototipo use a later larger centre bore and need the pressed shims to mount the horn buttons, which are still made to suit the original smaller centre bore)? I am presuming that the horn works with the original wheel, meaning that it is just a simple set up problem.

Youd think that it would be simple but it can be confusing, with Lucar connectors on the spacers and some horn buttons having two connectors too, and only one wire from the horn ring on the base of the boss. It is usually best to get the horn working off the button in your hand and then fitting the hub, and transferring it into the wheel in stages.

benjj

6,787 posts

170 months

Tuesday 13th May 2014
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Everything Simon said is absolutely right, but.... wink

Mine is a real Momo wheel with a real Momo boss for the right model (early 944 in my case). It still needed the ground adding.

porscheman944

Original Poster:

60 posts

137 months

Wednesday 14th May 2014
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My wheel was fitted at a garage & they could not get horn to work,just looked in the boss box,there is a metal ring piece, should this have been fitted ? will post pics later.

Thanks for all advice, hopefully will get it sorted.

porscheman944

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60 posts

137 months

Sunday 18th May 2014
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pic of horn connection

porscheman944

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137 months

Sunday 18th May 2014
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Should this ring have been fitted

Ash944

3 posts

134 months

Friday 30th May 2014
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Yes then run a ground wire from it to horn button

m040

64 posts

126 months

Saturday 31st May 2014
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If you hold the black wire to the metal of the hub, does the horn work ?

Yes : Then check the horn button and make sure that the goldish spring makes contact with the hub, once it's inserted.
No : Check if the slider ring on the back of the hub makes contact.

GC8

19,910 posts

197 months

Saturday 31st May 2014
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Its always hard to help people like this because you cant know what they know, or what they've done or omitted.

As suggested above: first you get the horn working by shorting the wire to earth - its the earth circuit that youre making here.

All the button is, is a temporary push to make switch, so if you connect the wire to the button/switch, you have to ensure that the button/switch is then grounded securely when its fixed to the wheel. If it isn't then the circuit cant be completed, whether you push the button or not.


jasongibson

175 posts

214 months

Monday 9th June 2014
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you keep the wire as it is and the ring goes between the hub and steering wheel, this supplies the earth to the horn button. When pressed the earth circuit is made to the horn and should work.

I fitted one to a 924 on Saturday

porscheman944

Original Poster:

60 posts

137 months

Monday 9th June 2014
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Many thanks will try it in next few days

porscheman944

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60 posts

137 months

Tuesday 10th June 2014
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Tried again today still nothing,even checked the fuse & horn button also connected an earth wire,only thing left is to check the live feed but was working on original wheel.

May have to admit defeat & source an auto electrician.

GC8

19,910 posts

197 months

Tuesday 10th June 2014
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Does the original wheel/horn push work?

Have you tried with the boss only fitted, with the horn push in your hand connected to the wire from the boss and earthed (exposed metal wire spring to steering shaft)?

As Ive said before, get it working in your hand then when you understand whats doing what its far easier to get it working in-situ.

boxsey

3,575 posts

217 months

Tuesday 10th June 2014
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I believe the 944 and 964 are very similar when fitting momo steering wheels. Same boss I believe. With a 964 there is only one connection to the horn as shown in the pic above. But you also need the horn contact switch fitting to the steering column assembly. See link below to what it looks like:

http://www.design911.co.uk/fu/prod1177/Steering-Wh...

This provides the contact to the brass ring on the bottom of the momo boss.

jasongibson

175 posts

214 months

Tuesday 10th June 2014
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The boss gets the earth from the steering column, The ring should be sitting on bare metal at the top of the boss, if the rubber surround to the boss is separating the two, make sure it doesn't

jasongibson

175 posts

214 months

Tuesday 10th June 2014
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Are you coming down to the Simply Porsche Show at Beaulieu next weekend ?

If so, bring your tools and we'll fix it for ya