If picking one option: PSE or Sport Chrono on a PDK 981
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Neither.
SC pointless. Sports Plus is sufficient unless tracking it.
PSE if you like to cause yourself a headache at motorway speeds.
I have neither out of choice. Had a 2 day test drive before purchase in an SC car - pointless.
Had two courtesy cars with PSE. The Boxster particularly gave me a headache with its droning.
Go for extended test drives in cars with both options to decide for yourself.
SC pointless. Sports Plus is sufficient unless tracking it.
PSE if you like to cause yourself a headache at motorway speeds.
I have neither out of choice. Had a 2 day test drive before purchase in an SC car - pointless.
Had two courtesy cars with PSE. The Boxster particularly gave me a headache with its droning.
Go for extended test drives in cars with both options to decide for yourself.
Does standard exhaust sound muted versus PSE closed valve?
I’ve been told the PSE pops and bangs a bit OTT if not wanted.
Good point on SC engine mounts if that’s the thing it controls too?
Similar to PASM , I assume similar to Audi adaptive dampers, so as wear and tear these are more expensive to fix when required
I’ve been told the PSE pops and bangs a bit OTT if not wanted.
Good point on SC engine mounts if that’s the thing it controls too?
Similar to PASM , I assume similar to Audi adaptive dampers, so as wear and tear these are more expensive to fix when required
There’s plenty about with both. Here’s my low-down on the options on my 981 Cayman S (manual). I wouldn’t be without either. One makes for a better drive (particularly on a manual/in manual PDK mode). The other is for better sound. I’d also not be without PASM (I’m a road user, not track - it’s superbly calibrated).
I also like having PTV. But it only really comes into its own when you’re really going for it. Can do without.
On the interior - Burmester is great - but it’s always going to be drowned somewhat by sharing the cabin with an engine (Cayman here) and having 4 wide tires.
18-way seats are superb. 3 memory settings which I have for ‘caning it’, motorway, and wife. 14-ways are great but I need the shoulder support. I’d rather take the sport seat plus (which is the basic seat with shoulder support) than the 14 ways as a result.
Extended leather. Not a dealbreaker, but does enhance the cabin. Personal choice.
Split-zone AC - for me, essential. My wife and I apparently have very different circulation systems.
GPS/phone prep - in the modern world, nice to have, but honestly just upgrade whatever you have to Apple CarPlay.
Parking sensors - not essential, but as I sit low, the bonnet being long means I can’t see past the hump of the headlight arches. Rear vis when reverse parking isn’t the best, but I’d be fine without it.
For modifications - I have the GT4 short shifter (not applicable to OP’s PDK conundrum). GTS tail-lights. They do look better to my eyes than the big red splotches. Zunsport grills to protect the ludicrously exposed AC condensers.
To summarise - I’d personally be insistent on SC/PSE/PASM. After that baseline I’d see what else I could get and weigh it up.
I also like having PTV. But it only really comes into its own when you’re really going for it. Can do without.
On the interior - Burmester is great - but it’s always going to be drowned somewhat by sharing the cabin with an engine (Cayman here) and having 4 wide tires.
18-way seats are superb. 3 memory settings which I have for ‘caning it’, motorway, and wife. 14-ways are great but I need the shoulder support. I’d rather take the sport seat plus (which is the basic seat with shoulder support) than the 14 ways as a result.
Extended leather. Not a dealbreaker, but does enhance the cabin. Personal choice.
Split-zone AC - for me, essential. My wife and I apparently have very different circulation systems.
GPS/phone prep - in the modern world, nice to have, but honestly just upgrade whatever you have to Apple CarPlay.
Parking sensors - not essential, but as I sit low, the bonnet being long means I can’t see past the hump of the headlight arches. Rear vis when reverse parking isn’t the best, but I’d be fine without it.
For modifications - I have the GT4 short shifter (not applicable to OP’s PDK conundrum). GTS tail-lights. They do look better to my eyes than the big red splotches. Zunsport grills to protect the ludicrously exposed AC condensers.
To summarise - I’d personally be insistent on SC/PSE/PASM. After that baseline I’d see what else I could get and weigh it up.
No SC : notably diminished throttle response and less-taught chassis. Not a win. Wouldn’t dream of going without it. I care how it drives more than how it sounds, not least with a ‘chassis’ car.
Mine haven’t acted up in 4 years of blasting around. If I need to replace them, I really don’t care. As I’ve said elsewhere, if replacing a transmission mount puts you in a pickle, Porsche ownership is not a sensible proposition.
Mine haven’t acted up in 4 years of blasting around. If I need to replace them, I really don’t care. As I’ve said elsewhere, if replacing a transmission mount puts you in a pickle, Porsche ownership is not a sensible proposition.
Royal Jelly said:
No SC : notably diminished throttle response and less-taught chassis. Not a win. Wouldn’t dream of going without it. I care how it drives more than how it sounds, not least with a ‘chassis’ car.
Mine haven’t acted up in 4 years of blasting around. If I need to replace them, I really don’t care. As I’ve said elsewhere, if replacing a transmission mount puts you in a pickle, Porsche ownership is not a sensible proposition.
The OP has asked for opinions and that is what he is getting, your opinion isn’t worth more than any other.Mine haven’t acted up in 4 years of blasting around. If I need to replace them, I really don’t care. As I’ve said elsewhere, if replacing a transmission mount puts you in a pickle, Porsche ownership is not a sensible proposition.
981Boxess said:
The OP has asked for opinions and that is what he is getting, your opinion isn’t worth more than any other.
And neither is yours. The point I am making, is that a car with SC is, objectively, a better performing car.
A car with PSE isn’t.
So no, it isn’t a ‘win/win’, or anything of the sort.
Edited by Royal Jelly on Monday 26th August 13:16
Royal Jelly said:
981Boxess said:
The OP has asked for opinions and that is what he is getting, your opinion isn’t worth more than any other.
And neither is yours. The point I am making, is that a car with SC is, objectively, a better performing car.
A car with PSE isn’t.
It is just potentially hassle you could have avoided.
981Boxess said:
I will leave that to the OP to decide, he asked the question.
He will decided what is more important to him, obviously. He isn’t deciding whether SC makes the car objectively better. That is already fact. So, to conclude, PSE with no SC is not a win/win - as you so clearly tried to assert.
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