Cayman 2.7 24V PDK 2014
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Hi
I am after some honest advice about a Porsche Cayman 2.7L 24V PDK 2014, semi automatic that's done 25500 miles.
At present I drive an Audi TT 2.0L diesel Black Edition 2014 which I do love but my dream is to buy a Porsche and has been ever since I can remember. I would, in an ideal world buy a 911, but the next best thing for me is a Cayman.
I would like some honest running costs and maintenance costs if possible please.
I do around 8000 miles a year (recently down from 20000 - hence why I have a diesel now).
What are the common issues to look out for.
With mine the timing belt was changed 5 years ago and and I coming up to needing it done again - stupid question but is this similar with Caymanns? Intervals for change. I'm not a mechanical minded person as you can guess!
What I don't want to do is change my car and get stick with a beautiful money pit!
Thank you all
I am after some honest advice about a Porsche Cayman 2.7L 24V PDK 2014, semi automatic that's done 25500 miles.
At present I drive an Audi TT 2.0L diesel Black Edition 2014 which I do love but my dream is to buy a Porsche and has been ever since I can remember. I would, in an ideal world buy a 911, but the next best thing for me is a Cayman.
I would like some honest running costs and maintenance costs if possible please.
I do around 8000 miles a year (recently down from 20000 - hence why I have a diesel now).
What are the common issues to look out for.
With mine the timing belt was changed 5 years ago and and I coming up to needing it done again - stupid question but is this similar with Caymanns? Intervals for change. I'm not a mechanical minded person as you can guess!
What I don't want to do is change my car and get stick with a beautiful money pit!
Thank you all
I have a 2013 Boxster 2.7 PDK car so very similar although mine is on 70k miles not 25k miles and is a daily doing 5k per year.
The standard advice applies, buy on condition and service history. These cars need money spending on them, there's no way to get past that especially as they're getting on a bit now. I budget £2k per year for maintenance (not including tyres) with a very healthy contingency in the savings account. That seems to be about right based on this car and my previous 987.2 Cayman averaged out (although I'm incredibly OCD about my cars and nothing is allowed to slide!).
My car appeared to be in great condition when I bought it, but the PDI still showed up a tonne of things that needed doing, all of which the specialist dealer did but it cost them a lot of money. It needed a new battery, two new air con rads, a new rad fan, a set of front springs (OSF was broken right at the top), new coolant cap, and both rear control arms. I had the front bumper repainted as it was stone chipped and I also had the sagging bolster on the seat repaired. Having driven it 5 months now, it's got a slow leak from an air con pipe and that will cost £420 to fix in the next week or so. So definitely get a PDI as you're just gambling otherwise.
Finally, don't forget it'll need a PDK service at 12 years old which is about £750. They're generally extremely reliable gearboxes but it will need to be done. There's some confusion as to whether the PDK box has a 6 year service but this was on 987.2 cars only, it was extended to 12 years for the 981s.
Best of luck with it, they're great cars and I love mine.
The standard advice applies, buy on condition and service history. These cars need money spending on them, there's no way to get past that especially as they're getting on a bit now. I budget £2k per year for maintenance (not including tyres) with a very healthy contingency in the savings account. That seems to be about right based on this car and my previous 987.2 Cayman averaged out (although I'm incredibly OCD about my cars and nothing is allowed to slide!).
My car appeared to be in great condition when I bought it, but the PDI still showed up a tonne of things that needed doing, all of which the specialist dealer did but it cost them a lot of money. It needed a new battery, two new air con rads, a new rad fan, a set of front springs (OSF was broken right at the top), new coolant cap, and both rear control arms. I had the front bumper repainted as it was stone chipped and I also had the sagging bolster on the seat repaired. Having driven it 5 months now, it's got a slow leak from an air con pipe and that will cost £420 to fix in the next week or so. So definitely get a PDI as you're just gambling otherwise.
Finally, don't forget it'll need a PDK service at 12 years old which is about £750. They're generally extremely reliable gearboxes but it will need to be done. There's some confusion as to whether the PDK box has a 6 year service but this was on 987.2 cars only, it was extended to 12 years for the 981s.
Best of luck with it, they're great cars and I love mine.
I went to look at a 718 Cayman today as something I could daily as it was pretty well priced and not yet listed.
They also had a 981 in with a nice spec. it was interesting to see the prep list for the two cars.
2019 Caymen with 70k miles.....
Front discs and pads.
2013 981 Cayman with 40k miles, from memory...
Front control arms.
Rear control arms.
Front diagonal arms.
Nearside front track rod arm.
Front and rear discs and pads.
Front condensors.
Front coolant pipe.
I think that was it.
So shows age is far more important than mileage for needing stuff replaced.
They also had a 981 in with a nice spec. it was interesting to see the prep list for the two cars.
2019 Caymen with 70k miles.....
Front discs and pads.
2013 981 Cayman with 40k miles, from memory...
Front control arms.
Rear control arms.
Front diagonal arms.
Nearside front track rod arm.
Front and rear discs and pads.
Front condensors.
Front coolant pipe.
I think that was it.
So shows age is far more important than mileage for needing stuff replaced.
Very informative, thank you.
At the moment I can connect 2 phones to my audi one for work calls and one for music. I am doubtful this is the case for this model. But if I am wrong then please tell me!
That is a big list of things that need doing! I was wondering of it was more age than miles or vise versa. I know Porsches are well made and built to last but obviously there will always be maintenance to do on any car.
I have been quite lucky with my TT and I've not had anything major go wrong with it and always sailed through MOTs and services.
My biggest concern is of I buy one and I end up spending thousands more than anticipated.
At the moment I can connect 2 phones to my audi one for work calls and one for music. I am doubtful this is the case for this model. But if I am wrong then please tell me!
That is a big list of things that need doing! I was wondering of it was more age than miles or vise versa. I know Porsches are well made and built to last but obviously there will always be maintenance to do on any car.
I have been quite lucky with my TT and I've not had anything major go wrong with it and always sailed through MOTs and services.
My biggest concern is of I buy one and I end up spending thousands more than anticipated.
I just think that as cars hit 11-12 years old that is when you start to go through parts, mainly rubber bushes.
Many of the rubbers used on bushes have roughly a 10-15 year shelf left and that is if they are not used and just stored. So as they hit 11-12 years they just need replacing.
Just something to consider.
It is amazing just how much softer and compliant a 12 year old car feels after all the rubber has been replaced.
Compare a set of 10 year old tyres with new ones to get an idea of how much harder they get.
Many bushes on Porsches are a shore hardness of around 65-70a when new, which is pretty soft, a tyre is around 60a, but by the time they get to 10 years old they can be closer to 90a which is really hard. That alone can mean the car is not how it is meant to be, the hardest bushes from Powerflex are 90a and many hate the way they feel. Hence why Porsche often swap over loads of arms during prep, probably not knocking or squeaking, but it just doesn't ride the way they know it should.
And of course they also start to crack and get play which is even more of an issue here.
Many of the rubbers used on bushes have roughly a 10-15 year shelf left and that is if they are not used and just stored. So as they hit 11-12 years they just need replacing.
Just something to consider.
It is amazing just how much softer and compliant a 12 year old car feels after all the rubber has been replaced.
Compare a set of 10 year old tyres with new ones to get an idea of how much harder they get.
Many bushes on Porsches are a shore hardness of around 65-70a when new, which is pretty soft, a tyre is around 60a, but by the time they get to 10 years old they can be closer to 90a which is really hard. That alone can mean the car is not how it is meant to be, the hardest bushes from Powerflex are 90a and many hate the way they feel. Hence why Porsche often swap over loads of arms during prep, probably not knocking or squeaking, but it just doesn't ride the way they know it should.
And of course they also start to crack and get play which is even more of an issue here.
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