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Ive decided to put my Elise up for sale and look for a Boxster, as good as the Elise is its a bit too hardcore for my tastes these days.
It was between the two above cars a year ago but even though ive enjoyed experiencing it i made the wrong decision.
I dont do track days and its purely a weekend car really but could get used a bit more.
Ideally it would be a 987.2 3.4s but the 2.9 is a contender too, 2009 on to avoid as many issues as i can.
Around £20k budget.
Probably a manual as i would like to try and avoid as much borkage factor as possible with the tech.
Just wondered what things you would consider a must such as pasm etc.
It was between the two above cars a year ago but even though ive enjoyed experiencing it i made the wrong decision.
I dont do track days and its purely a weekend car really but could get used a bit more.
Ideally it would be a 987.2 3.4s but the 2.9 is a contender too, 2009 on to avoid as many issues as i can.
Around £20k budget.
Probably a manual as i would like to try and avoid as much borkage factor as possible with the tech.
Just wondered what things you would consider a must such as pasm etc.
I have a 987.1, RS60, which has all the bells and whistles. Apart from the fact it’s a point one. They are pretty much the same. I have done a handful of Track Days with mine and the PASM is brilliant. Saying that, I would never use that setting on the road as it makes the car far too stiff and the standard setting is perfect for our roads.
Mine has the switchable exhaust, which gives you a lovely quiet roof down motoring at low revs where you can chat with your wife or whoever and gives that wonderful howl at higher revs. Switch it into sport and not only does the exhaust note change to a harsher note throughout the rev range but the throttle dynamics change to give it a more urgent feel.
Definitely go for one with the sports seats as they give far more support and look the part.
As for the Chrono pack, mine has it, looks great, but have never used it!
Apart from that, get the best one by condition and you won’t go wrong. Mine had 80 K on the clock when I bought it and hasn’t missed a beat in the last four years.
Do look underneath as many are uncared for like the majority of cars on our roads but one that has been well looked after, driven in better weathers, and garaged will pay dividends in the future.
Mine has the switchable exhaust, which gives you a lovely quiet roof down motoring at low revs where you can chat with your wife or whoever and gives that wonderful howl at higher revs. Switch it into sport and not only does the exhaust note change to a harsher note throughout the rev range but the throttle dynamics change to give it a more urgent feel.
Definitely go for one with the sports seats as they give far more support and look the part.
As for the Chrono pack, mine has it, looks great, but have never used it!
Apart from that, get the best one by condition and you won’t go wrong. Mine had 80 K on the clock when I bought it and hasn’t missed a beat in the last four years.
Do look underneath as many are uncared for like the majority of cars on our roads but one that has been well looked after, driven in better weathers, and garaged will pay dividends in the future.
Your budget should get you a nice circa 2010 fairly low miles car. If you can wait until after summer a better deal will be had with perhaps a few more cars to choose from.
I personally wouldn’t worry about PASM a basic car with little extras is fine, most importantly it is a manual.
Condition and history are more important to look for.
The 3.4s is nice to have but there is nothing wrong with a 2.9 both fantastic cars.
I personally wouldn’t worry about PASM a basic car with little extras is fine, most importantly it is a manual.
Condition and history are more important to look for.
The 3.4s is nice to have but there is nothing wrong with a 2.9 both fantastic cars.
The 3.4 is the much more torqueyer engine and the 2.9 needs a little more revving for the same performance envelope. Looking at the performance figures on paper, there isn’t much in it. Of course, it all depends where you live. If like me, you are in the crowded southeast and most of your motoring sticks to a 50 mile radius then you won’t be using the performance that either can offer. If you are after comfortable roof down motoring then the 2.9 will be fine although for me, I would have always regretted not getting a 3.4.
Whatever you choose, they are both brilliant, underrated cars.
Whatever you choose, they are both brilliant, underrated cars.
The RS60 does appeal to me but I'm still terrified of the engine issues.
Not a fan of the red interior though.
I suppose you would need to get a bore scope done as a minimum before buying but if looked after well and it's just a weekend car the risks will be quite low?
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/2023071998...
Not a fan of the red interior though.
I suppose you would need to get a bore scope done as a minimum before buying but if looked after well and it's just a weekend car the risks will be quite low?
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/2023071998...
Edited by Belle427 on Saturday 8th June 09:51
That does look like a nice example. Personally, the red does it for me and I get nothing but positive reactions to it with usually the comment, “better than the boring black”.
As for the bore score Etc. I did a bit of research a few years ago and it seems Ccrs that are used on a regular basis and consequently with higher mileage suffer less than garage queens with lower miles. Also, another aspect is putting the car away when the engine isn’t hot. As we know, combustion generates moisture and if the engine isn’t hot and is switched off and left, there could be moisture residue that sits on the bores affecting the long-term life of the cylinders.
As for the bore score Etc. I did a bit of research a few years ago and it seems Ccrs that are used on a regular basis and consequently with higher mileage suffer less than garage queens with lower miles. Also, another aspect is putting the car away when the engine isn’t hot. As we know, combustion generates moisture and if the engine isn’t hot and is switched off and left, there could be moisture residue that sits on the bores affecting the long-term life of the cylinders.
That does look like a nice example. Personally, the red does it for me and I get nothing but positive reactions to it with usually the comment, “better than the boring black”.
As for the bore score Etc. I did a bit of research a few years ago and it seems Ccrs that are used on a regular basis and consequently with higher mileage suffer less than garage queens with lower miles. Also, another aspect is putting the car away when the engine isn’t hot. As we know, combustion generates moisture and if the engine isn’t hot and is switched off and left, there could be moisture residue that sits on the bores affecting the long-term life of the cylinders.
As for the bore score Etc. I did a bit of research a few years ago and it seems Ccrs that are used on a regular basis and consequently with higher mileage suffer less than garage queens with lower miles. Also, another aspect is putting the car away when the engine isn’t hot. As we know, combustion generates moisture and if the engine isn’t hot and is switched off and left, there could be moisture residue that sits on the bores affecting the long-term life of the cylinders.
Having owned 986.2 BS - 987.1 CS - 987.2 BS (Spyder) if it was me I would only look at a manual 987.2 either 2.9 or 3.4.
Problem with the 986/987.1 the bigger the engine the more likely hood of bore score and all later engines less likely to suffer ims failure!
So if looking at 987.1 a 2.9 is the safest bet.
Problem with the 986/987.1 the bigger the engine the more likely hood of bore score and all later engines less likely to suffer ims failure!
So if looking at 987.1 a 2.9 is the safest bet.
I haven’t regretted going with a Boxster. It suited me at the time.
Of course the Boxster is better engineered. The Tiv by comparison had character in spades.
The Boxster has never let me down and is super reliable. I do love driving it, the standard switchable exhaust howl never fails to put a smile on my face!
Of course the Boxster is better engineered. The Tiv by comparison had character in spades.
The Boxster has never let me down and is super reliable. I do love driving it, the standard switchable exhaust howl never fails to put a smile on my face!
I too was a TVR owner 
, first a V8S and then a Griffith 500 which I replaced with a 987.2 Cayman 2.9 with Sport Chrono and manual gearbox. I usually drove in sport mode as the throttle response was better, with the long gearing I seemed to spend much of my time in 3rd gear. I did a few hillclimbs in that Cayman and from time to time still managed to fluff the 2nd to 3rd gearchange under red mist conditions.
I replaced that Cayman with a 987.2 Cayman S with PDK, PASM, and Sports Chrono+. On the roads I usually drove in sport mode and with PASM in comfort mode although I believe that adjusts itself to match your driving. I did a couple of UK tours in that car covering around 3k mikes each and comfort with PASM in comfort mode was, I think, better than the 2.9. I also hillclimbed the S and then used PASM in sport mode, and sport chrono + as the PDK box made quicker more accurate gear changes than I did even with the shift paddles.
The PDK S was significantly quicker hillclimbing than the manual 2.9, so good in fact that I stopped hillclimbing it because the potential for financial loss was greater than my desire to shave further 100ths of a second off my times. I get as much fun hillclimbing a 1.0l ecoboost Fiesta.
If I were to get another Cayman, or even a Boxster, I might well go for a manual 2.9 rather than a PDK S.
, first a V8S and then a Griffith 500 which I replaced with a 987.2 Cayman 2.9 with Sport Chrono and manual gearbox. I usually drove in sport mode as the throttle response was better, with the long gearing I seemed to spend much of my time in 3rd gear. I did a few hillclimbs in that Cayman and from time to time still managed to fluff the 2nd to 3rd gearchange under red mist conditions. I replaced that Cayman with a 987.2 Cayman S with PDK, PASM, and Sports Chrono+. On the roads I usually drove in sport mode and with PASM in comfort mode although I believe that adjusts itself to match your driving. I did a couple of UK tours in that car covering around 3k mikes each and comfort with PASM in comfort mode was, I think, better than the 2.9. I also hillclimbed the S and then used PASM in sport mode, and sport chrono + as the PDK box made quicker more accurate gear changes than I did even with the shift paddles.
The PDK S was significantly quicker hillclimbing than the manual 2.9, so good in fact that I stopped hillclimbing it because the potential for financial loss was greater than my desire to shave further 100ths of a second off my times. I get as much fun hillclimbing a 1.0l ecoboost Fiesta.
If I were to get another Cayman, or even a Boxster, I might well go for a manual 2.9 rather than a PDK S.
Belle427 said:
Yes I think as a first Porsche it will pay me to stick to a 987.2.
For a little more than your £20K budget, Ashgoods have a lovely .2 Black Edition with the desired lightweight spyder alloys. https://www.ashgood.co.uk/vehicle-details/used-por...
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