The green "Hold" indication in the speedo (718)

[Tony B2]

It comes on when I switch on the ignition, goes away after starting, and I have never noticed it illuminating whilst driving.

It is not mentioned in the text of the manual, nor shown in the pictures of the instruments.

So what is it?

I am guessing something to do with the "gradient assistant" thing, but as I have never seen it come on, it is just a guess.

Who knows?

[Redline88]

I think it’s for the auto-hold but mines never comes on either.

ETA - I think it only comes on with the PDK variants - https://www.porsche.com/usa/accessoriesandservices...

Edited by Redline88 on Sunday 12th May 21:54

[Tony B2]

Redline88 said:

I think it’s for the auto-hold but mines never comes on either.

ETA - I think it only comes on with the PDK variants - https://www.porsche.com/usa/accessoriesandservices...

Edited by Redline88 on Sunday 12th May 21:54

Thanks for the link - I wish I had found this collection ages ago.

Yes - the manual v PDK differences are a bit vague in this video - and no mention of the 2 second hold before the function releases and the car rolls back!

I am surprised that the owner's manual (which does cover manual and PDK operations) makes no mention of the "Hold" light at all.

[speedster986]

It works on my manual 991. It’s a hill hold assistant but the incline has to be relatively steep.

[jackwood]

On a non-GT4 718 with PDK, once stationary, you can do an extra (harder) press on the brake pedal and the Hold function will lock on until you press the accelerator. This is regardless of if you are on an incline or not.

[LiamH66]

Has worked on all my manual 718s, including current Cayman GTS 4.0. Yes, hill hold. If you've never seen it come on, maybe come up for a drive in Pennine Lancashire, or somewhere similarly hilly. Stops you from rolling back on steep hill starts when the handbrake isn't engaged.

[Tony B2]

LiamH66 said:

Has worked on all my manual 718s, including current Cayman GTS 4.0. Yes, hill hold. If you've never seen it come on, maybe come up for a drive in Pennine Lancashire, or somewhere similarly hilly. Stops you from rolling back on steep hill starts when the handbrake isn't engaged.

I have definitely experienced it working, but never noticed the light come on in the speedo. Apart from at switch-on.

[DJMC]

Base 981, I see it illuminate often on gradients when at a stand still. Just drive off when ready.

On our Macan it has the double function of acting as a handbrake when the brake pedal is pushed hard after a stop.

The 981 only has the single hill hold function.

[Wollemi]

Press firmly on the foot brake and the car is held - as if you’ve put a handbrake on. This applies on both manual and PDK cars. Releases when you drive off. It’s very useful.

[Scoates]

Doesn’t need to be on a hill to be useful, I use it most useful when stationary in traffic - it means I can sit without the brake lights on

[Scoates]

Scoates said:

Doesn’t need to be on a hill to be useful, I use it most useful when stationary in traffic - it means I can sit without the brake lights on

Note to self: Check your facts before posting - just checked my brake lights, and they stay on when using the Hold function. I’m slightly annoyed they do that, but even more annoyed I didn’t check before posting !

[David W.]

Scoates said:

Note to self: Check your facts before posting - just checked my brake lights, and they stay on when using the Hold function. I’m slightly annoyed they do that, but even more annoyed I didn’t check before posting !

Agree, equally annoyed the brake lights stay on otherwise I’d use it more in traffic. Having to sit behind someone in standing traffic who can’t use park or handbrake is one of my pet hates.

[Electronicpants]

David W. said:

Scoates said:

Note to self: Check your facts before posting - just checked my brake lights, and they stay on when using the Hold function. I’m slightly annoyed they do that, but even more annoyed I didn’t check before posting !

Agree, equally annoyed the brake lights stay on otherwise I’d use it more in traffic. Having to sit behind someone in standing traffic who can’t use park or handbrake is one of my pet hates.

With everything being an SUV on the road at the moment and these car being lower and smaller than most, having been rear ended by someone driving off at the lights who "just didn't see me" I'm quite happy to have the lights on, in fact since then I sit with my foot on the brake whether it's needed or not as a protective measure to stop it happening again. Look in your rear view mirror and the majority of drivers are looking right over you!

[Tony B2]

Wollemi said:

Press firmly on the foot brake and the car is held - as if you’ve put a handbrake on. This applies on both manual and PDK cars. Releases when you drive off. It’s very useful.

Although I have felt the hold function working on gradients, there has been no sign of the "Hold" indicator illuminating.

I will have to try pressing the pedal a bit harder, and report back!

Edited by Tony B2 on Tuesday 4th June 17:26

[PetrolHeadPete]

I think you have to give it an extra quick-ish shove of pressure, then on it comes.

[Tony B2]

Update!

I have finally seen the "Hold" light come on...!!

But.....

It was not my car, it was whilst driving one of the Cayman's at the PEC last week - and yes it was, of course, PDK.

Came on whilst holding the car stationary on a downslope, using the foot brake.