Porsche Classic Oil 5W 50 for 986 Boxster

Porsche Classic Oil 5W 50 for 986 Boxster

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DBXExige

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41 posts

22 months

Wednesday 7th June 2023
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In my search for the best oil, found this from Porsche:

https://www.porsche.com/uk/accessoriesandservice/c...

It's a 5W 50 for older models that include now the 986.

Anyone moved to this?

Orangecurry

7,536 posts

213 months

Wednesday 7th June 2023
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no...no...no...no...NO hehe

All that will do is line Porsche's pockets, and rob some of the power from your engine.

As already discussed, find the oldest formulation quality 5W40 that you can. Look at OPIE (no affiliation) for example.

If you want to learn about oil, and go mad, visit Rennlist.

DBXExige

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41 posts

22 months

Wednesday 7th June 2023
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I’m already down several rabbit holes on oil!

Orangecurry

7,536 posts

213 months

Wednesday 7th June 2023
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I'd say you were probably overthinking it.

Latest theories on Porsche engine damage/bore-score/etc is that higher ethanol petrol is causing bore wash in the older engines - go down that rabbit-hole.

But in your case I am a bit confused - who does your normal/service oil-changes? What do they use?

If you are increasing the frequency of change, is there a reason for this?

Do you put the car away for months at a time? Do you track the car?

Otherwise the schedule is probably correct for your usage, if normal.

DBXExige

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41 posts

22 months

Wednesday 7th June 2023
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Thanks, So the car is new to me hence the questions.

It has a FSH but I generally like to go down the do more than the minimum end of the spectrum.

The car has had a mix over it's lifecycle of 0w 40 and 5w 40. It's only ever done a few thousand miles a year over the last 10 years and only 1500 the year before I purchased it.

Last serviced around 11months ago so want to change the oil now and wondering what best to use, It's going to be a weekend summer car, occasional spirited driving and no track use and probably not cover more than a few thousand miles a year.

Cost of the oil and consumables aren't an issue so just want to try and find the best option and enjoy doing some of the maintenance myself so changing the oil twice a year is the plan which for the small cost certainly won't do the car any harm i dont think.

Edited by DBXExige on Wednesday 7th June 13:41

Orangecurry

7,536 posts

213 months

Wednesday 7th June 2023
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Ah right understood.

DBXExige said:
Cost of the oil and consumables aren't an issue so just want to try and find the best option and enjoy doing some of the maintenance myself so changing the oil twice a year is the plan which for the small cost certainly won't do the car any harm i dont think.
But it won't benefit the car, and, to put my Green Hat on, it's a waste of resources/chemicals down the drain.

If you want to do the absolute best for the engine, get an oil analysis done. Then adjust your oil-changes to suit.

But at the end of the day - with that low useage, any quality oil (with the correct ACEA spec.) changed once a year will be more than adequate.

Spend your money on low/no ethanol petrol instead. IMO. YMMV.


DBXExige

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41 posts

22 months

Wednesday 7th June 2023
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Thanks again, agree on the better fuel option.

I had thought latest thinking was to change oil at 5k miles or 12mnths to help IMS lubrication etc.

Appreciate the comments and suggestions.

SlimJim16v

6,116 posts

150 months

Wednesday 7th June 2023
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I did read that Hartech only use Millers CFS NT+ so that's what I would use. It was a while ago, so don't know if it's still the case.

DBXExige

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41 posts

22 months

Friday 9th June 2023
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Was at a Porsche AD this week and chatting to the service guy who said Porsche new push the 5w 50 for 986s. I wasn't clear if he agreed but it's what they recommend is asked from what he said.

Orangecurry

7,536 posts

213 months

Friday 9th June 2023
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DBXExige said:
....Porsche new push the 5w 50 for 986s. I wasn't clear if he agreed but it's what they recommend is asked from what he said.
I would imagine he also thinks it's bks.

The engine was designed to run on a 40 weight oil. If you want to give Porsche a ridiculous amount of money for an oil that is too 'thick' for your engine, that's your choice.

If you don't want to believe mad voices on the internet, go and ask the independents who deal with these engines on a daily basis.


Edited by Orangecurry on Friday 9th June 09:51

DBXExige

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41 posts

22 months

Friday 9th June 2023
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Orangecurry said:
I would imagine he also thinks it's bks.

The engine was designed to run on a 40 weight oil. If you want to give Porsche a ridiculous amount of money for an oil that is too 'thick' for your engine, that's your choice.

If you don't want to believe mad voices on the internet, go and ask the independents who deal with these engines on a daily basis.


Edited by Orangecurry on Friday 9th June 09:51
I wasn't agreeing with him! Just feeding back the narrative from the AD.

LennyM1984

764 posts

75 months

Friday 9th June 2023
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Orangecurry said:
DBXExige said:
....Porsche new push the 5w 50 for 986s. I wasn't clear if he agreed but it's what they recommend is asked from what he said.
I would imagine he also thinks it's bks.

The engine was designed to run on a 40 weight oil. If you want to give Porsche a ridiculous amount of money for an oil that is too 'thick' for your engine, that's your choice.

If you don't want to believe mad voices on the internet, go and ask the independents who deal with these engines on a daily basis.


Edited by Orangecurry on Friday 9th June 09:51
I would guess that the thinking is that, whilst it was designed for a 40w oil, in many cases, the engine tolerances (due to wear etc) would now be 100-150k miles down the line from where they were when it was originally built.

I can see some logic in that but I have no real knowledge of rebuilding an M96 or M97 to know whether it really makes sense. I do know that the a few of the guys I know who race the Boxsters uses a 10w/50 oil but for what it is worth, I use the factory recommended oil in my (non-Porsche) race car and it seems okay (although that car only has 5k miles on the engine/chassis)


and31

3,575 posts

134 months

Tuesday 13th June 2023
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Don’t Hartech recommend millers nanodrive 10w50 for older cars and for use in their rebuilt engines?