Would you get a PPI?

[elan362]

I'm looking at a 2013 981 Boxster S as a private sale.
The question is would you bother with a PPI?
It's a 2 owner, enthusiasts car. Current owner selling as they have a factory order 781 GTS 4.0 arriving.
It comes back clear with a Car Vertical report, and the current owner put it through a OPC 111point check last year 3,000 Miles ago and put a 3yr OPC warranty onto it.
It has 2 yrs OPC warranty remaining.

[elan362]

It's a PDK, So over revs not a concern

[Andyoz]

It's a decade old car. I'd get one from someone thorough - if anything, it'll give you a list of what work may need to be done in the next year or two. If it does find anything major then haggling points that'll negate the PPI easily ?

Either way always money well spent with a 10 year old Porsche

[CantDecide]

Personally I wouldn’t bother, with OPC inspection last year and two years warranty remaining what is there to worry about. Buy and enjoy!

[stuno1]

Yes. I did the same on a similar car last year. Look up Nick Giles PPI. Great guy.

He will look at the ecu for precious daily codes, check the exhaust actuators have not siezed, rads are not leaking, as well as condition of the car etc. It’s not s lot of money for the leave of mind it offers.

[Jefferson Steelflex]

I struggle to see what could go wrong out of warranty that would justify the 'low cost' of an inspection. Pretty sure seized exhaust actuator is a warranty item, radiators probably not but they're pretty cheap.

As a buyer you could do your own checks on other things, look at the age and tread of the tyres, maybe check the brake measurements (should be on the OPC report) and that's probably it? You can inspect the air can condensors externally to get an idea of the potential for replacement soon.

For me, with a full warranty and a recent inspection, and with buying from someone who exudes a bit of trust and expertise, it would be a No.

[elan362]

I'm inclined to fall on the side of it has had a recent 111point OPC check, it's still got 2+ yrs OPC Warranty, tyres are newish, full new brake disks and pads 3000 Miles ago, exhaust studs replaced with SS, new rear subframe (OPC recall Work) and the vehicle checks out otherwise there is not a lot extra a PPI can offer.

If it was a sale without the OPC 111point check or warranty, a PPI would be essential

[stuno1]

Jefferson Steelflex said:

I struggle to see what could go wrong out of warranty that would justify the 'low cost' of an inspection. Pretty sure seized exhaust actuator is a warranty item, radiators probably not but they're pretty cheap.

As a buyer you could do your own checks on other things, look at the age and tread of the tyres, maybe check the brake measurements (should be on the OPC report) and that's probably it? You can inspect the air can condensors externally to get an idea of the potential for replacement soon.

For me, with a full warranty and a recent inspection, and with buying from someone who exudes a bit of trust and expertise, it would be a No.

My radiators needed replacing and cost 1200 all in.

[Koln-RS]

The OPC Warranty is a huge asset when buying or selling ‘privately’.

[EvoSid]

If you are happy that the Porsche warranty will cover most things that may go wrong then no need for a PPI.
However of you want peace of mind or will worry about "what if" things then get a PPI done, if nothing it will give you peace of mind

[elan362]

Regarding coverage of OPC approved warranty, no mention of radiators being excluded

https://www.porsche.com/uk/accessoriesandservice/p...

States
The benefits of the Porsche Approved Warranty:

• All component repairs are covered, including parts and labour
• Worldwide validity
• Redeemable in every Porsche Centre
• Optional duration: 12, 24 or 36 months
• No excess to pay
• No mileage limit during the warranty period
• Coverage for Porsche vehicles up to 15 years old
• Only Porsche genuine parts are used
• Straightforward administration
• Full transferability if sold privately or to a Porsche Centre

Like your car, we want to ensure your Porsche Approved Warranty also stands for reliability and trust. This means openly stating what will not be covered under a Porsche Approved Warranty and why. As a Porsche ages, it can undergo visual and acoustic changes without affecting its functionality (e.g. cracks in the leather). Also certain parts are subject to ageing and natural wear. For this reason your Porsche has scheduled service and maintenance intervals. Visual and acoustic concerns, wear and tear are not defects and are therefore excluded from the warranty.The following components are not covered, if they must be repaired or replaced for reasons of ageing or regular wear and tear:

• Wiper blades
• Tyres
• Brake pads and brake discs
• Shock absorber
• Clutch disc and clutch pressure plate
• Drive belt including tensioning guide rails and roller
• Spark plugs
• Batteries
• PDCC reservoir
• Coolant
• All light bulbs (excluding Xenon and LED-lamps)
• All filters, fluids, oils and greases

Edited by elan362 on Monday 13th March 14:30

Edited by elan362 on Monday 13th March 14:32

[JurassicGTS]

Radiators are not excluded from the extended warranty and are part of the 111 point check. Even better if they are protected by Zunsport grills which keep all the leaf debris and stones from damaging them.
PSE actuators can easily be seen and heard working and the knuckle joints keep well greased with a hi-temp grease

Edited by JurassicGTS on Monday 13th March 16:55

[elan362]

said:

Just hurry updated and get home

[JurassicGTS]

[kharma45]

Sounds similar to me last year, I didn’t bother in the end. Private sale with full OPC history, low miles and Porsche warranty. Sounded well cared for and I was right.

[bennno]

JurassicGTS said:

Radiators are not excluded from the extended warranty and are part of the 111 point check. Even better if they are protected by Zunsport grills which keep all the leaf debris and stones from damaging them.
PSE actuators can easily be seen and heard working and the knuckle joints keep well greased with a hi-temp grease

Edited by JurassicGTS on Monday 13th March 16:55

But they are excluded if they are damaged by stones or fail due to corrosion - which are the only 2 reasons they fail, about every 7-8 years.

[JurassicGTS]

bennno said:

But they are excluded if they are damaged by stones or fail due to corrosion - which are the only 2 reasons they fail, about every 7-8 years.

If the car has recently passed a 111 point check they would have been checked, but not impossible to have been damaged since. Zunsports would also reduce this risk considerably.

[EvoSid]

If you are happy that the Porsche warranty will cover most things that may go wrong then no need for a PPI.
However of you want peace of mind or will worry about "what if" things then get a PPI done, if nothing it will give you peace of mind

[bennno]

JurassicGTS said:

If the car has recently passed a 111 point check they would have been checked, but not impossible to have been damaged since. Zunsports would also reduce this risk considerably.

3,000 miles since and inspection last year, that might be jan 22 or dec 22

[elan362]

Closing this off, in this situation, I'm happy with the assurances the 111 point check and OPC coverage provides, the due diligence and checks ive undertaken on provenance and maintenance history and on that basis am not going to bother with a PPI.

Other situations might leadto a different opinion. The consensus seems to be it is not necessary, rather it depends on each situation.

There are always going to be ongoing maintenance matters to deal with. The only way to avoid them is to buy a new car and never drive it.

Cheers