£18k for a gearbox?
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Mate of mine, has a pukka Porsche warranty on his 981 Boxster, just had a PDK failure and ‘needs’ a new gearbox. He was told by the service staff (Porsche Hatfield, I presume) that without a warranty he’d be paying £18,000. This is the same dealership that told me (10 years ago) that the 2008 Boxster I’d chopped in for a 911 a month before had needed a new engine at a more credible £8500 a week after they sold it.
Are these just stories to frighten children, or the real deal and a cautionary tales for the unwarranted (and yes, independents are cheaper, I know that, the question isn’t do you *have* to pay that much, it’s whether the OPC’s are taking the piss - potentially out of Porsche UK, given it was just an oil leak)?
Are these just stories to frighten children, or the real deal and a cautionary tales for the unwarranted (and yes, independents are cheaper, I know that, the question isn’t do you *have* to pay that much, it’s whether the OPC’s are taking the piss - potentially out of Porsche UK, given it was just an oil leak)?
Edited by thenobbler on Friday 28th January 19:10
Dual clutch gearboxes are incredibly complicated, full of high precision hydraulics and components, the R8 one is £38k
Not from my knowledge (way beyond me) but this video from REP explains a great deal, albeit the Audi version. If anyone knows the ins and outs it's Mr. Elder..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CWmbGA-yxo
Not from my knowledge (way beyond me) but this video from REP explains a great deal, albeit the Audi version. If anyone knows the ins and outs it's Mr. Elder..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CWmbGA-yxo
I wonder how / who is going to fix all these complex cars when they become classics?
I know historically the indy’s have always found a way, however, there are only a couple of places I’d take my 996 manual box for refurb which would be a £3-4k bill when / if needed. And thats just metal bits that needs some specialist tools - no electronics bar the reverse light switch!
I do wonder if there is a manufacturing date threshold whereby certain prestige car values will fall off a cliff (or get broken for the bits that still work!)
I know historically the indy’s have always found a way, however, there are only a couple of places I’d take my 996 manual box for refurb which would be a £3-4k bill when / if needed. And thats just metal bits that needs some specialist tools - no electronics bar the reverse light switch!
I do wonder if there is a manufacturing date threshold whereby certain prestige car values will fall off a cliff (or get broken for the bits that still work!)
There are companies that now fix/repair PDK gearboxes. Porsche are not 'repairers', their answer is to swap the part out for a factory new one. They don't 'fix' anything simply replace parts. £18k sounds excessive, I did hear they were £12k a few years back,
As cars get older Independent garages adapt and tailor their services. For example the Bentley GT requires an engine out to replace the hydraulic lines on the top of the transmission. It's no surprise that one Independent has figured out how to do it without taking the engine out.
If you look in the 'aquaplaned Boxster' thread there is reference to a repairer for PDK gearboxes.
As cars get older Independent garages adapt and tailor their services. For example the Bentley GT requires an engine out to replace the hydraulic lines on the top of the transmission. It's no surprise that one Independent has figured out how to do it without taking the engine out.
If you look in the 'aquaplaned Boxster' thread there is reference to a repairer for PDK gearboxes.
Armitage.Shanks said:
There are companies that now fix/repair PDK gearboxes. Porsche are not 'repairers', their answer is to swap the part out for a factory new one. They don't 'fix' anything simply replace parts. £18k sounds excessive, I did hear they were £12k a few years back,
As cars get older Independent garages adapt and tailor their services. For example the Bentley GT requires an engine out to replace the hydraulic lines on the top of the transmission. It's no surprise that one Independent has figured out how to do it without taking the engine out.
If you look in the 'aquaplaned Boxster' thread there is reference to a repairer for PDK gearboxes.
Absolutely and he paid £1200 I think.As cars get older Independent garages adapt and tailor their services. For example the Bentley GT requires an engine out to replace the hydraulic lines on the top of the transmission. It's no surprise that one Independent has figured out how to do it without taking the engine out.
If you look in the 'aquaplaned Boxster' thread there is reference to a repairer for PDK gearboxes.
Well there is a guy on one of the Merc forums just been quoted over £12k by Mercedes to replace the hybrid battery on his C350e hybrid which has effectively written the car off.
He has also been told by the Independants that Mercedes is the only option for supply of the battery.
And that is for a battery that is giving an electric only range of around 7- 11 miles in the winter months, based on the real life experience of many posters.
And that's only the small hybrid battery, dread what to think they will charge for the battery pack on a fully electric car.
Makes an £18k gearbox seem quite a bargain.
He has also been told by the Independants that Mercedes is the only option for supply of the battery.
And that is for a battery that is giving an electric only range of around 7- 11 miles in the winter months, based on the real life experience of many posters.
And that's only the small hybrid battery, dread what to think they will charge for the battery pack on a fully electric car.
Makes an £18k gearbox seem quite a bargain.
Monkeylegend said:
Well there is a guy on one of the Merc forums just been quoted over £12k by Mercedes to replace the hybrid battery on his C350e hybrid which has effectively written the car off.
He has also been told by the Independants that Mercedes is the only option for supply of the battery.
And that is for a battery that is giving an electric only range of around 7- 11 miles in the winter months, based on the real life experience of many posters.
And that's only the small hybrid battery, dread what to think they will charge for the battery pack on a fully electric car.
Makes an £18k gearbox seem quite a bargain.
In full EVs there’s a minimum 8 year battery warranty in Europe and the UKHe has also been told by the Independants that Mercedes is the only option for supply of the battery.
And that is for a battery that is giving an electric only range of around 7- 11 miles in the winter months, based on the real life experience of many posters.
And that's only the small hybrid battery, dread what to think they will charge for the battery pack on a fully electric car.
Makes an £18k gearbox seem quite a bargain.
Monkeylegend said:
Well there is a guy on one of the Merc forums just been quoted over £12k by Mercedes to replace the hybrid battery on his C350e hybrid which has effectively written the car off.
He has also been told by the Independants that Mercedes is the only option for supply of the battery.
And that is for a battery that is giving an electric only range of around 7- 11 miles in the winter months, based on the real life experience of many posters.
And that's only the small hybrid battery, dread what to think they will charge for the battery pack on a fully electric car.
Maybe that is true of some early hybrids but certainly not all of them or EVs for that matter.He has also been told by the Independants that Mercedes is the only option for supply of the battery.
And that is for a battery that is giving an electric only range of around 7- 11 miles in the winter months, based on the real life experience of many posters.
And that's only the small hybrid battery, dread what to think they will charge for the battery pack on a fully electric car.
In the case of Tesla, the battery is made up from untold separate cells, they run a diagnostic, pick out the duff cells, drop the battery, replace just the faulty ones and put it back up. Not suggesting it is a two minute or cheap job but it isn't like you bin an old Duracell AA and stick another one in.
Lexus hybrid batteries do the same thing on a smaller scale.
No idea what other manufacturers do but I doubt it will be any different otherwise once it gets leaked by No10 they won't be selling any cars.
Lexington59 said:
Keep paying those warranty premiums… 
I take what I read on here with a pinch of salt but I don't doubt there is a subliminal message sent out by OPCs that staying in the OPC warranty loop provides some peace of mind, and it does/works.I spent decades in the motor game and still know loads of people in it, any normal auto I would have a choice of people to go to, a PDK, none that I know personally. Obviously that does not mean they don't exist but what it does mean is I would be going to them blind and from past experience that generally ends badly.
Not a position I would like to find myself in, so I am in.
OPC 1 - Wallet 0
Monkeylegend said:
Well there is a guy on one of the Merc forums just been quoted over £12k by Mercedes to replace the hybrid battery on his C350e hybrid which has effectively written the car off.
He has also been told by the Independants that Mercedes is the only option for supply of the battery.
And that is for a battery that is giving an electric only range of around 7- 11 miles in the winter months, based on the real life experience of many posters.
And that's only the small hybrid battery, dread what to think they will charge for the battery pack on a fully electric car.
Makes an £18k gearbox seem quite a bargain.
I believe the batteries in cars with mild hybrid systems are also expensive to replace as some are lithium batteries...something like £3k.He has also been told by the Independants that Mercedes is the only option for supply of the battery.
And that is for a battery that is giving an electric only range of around 7- 11 miles in the winter months, based on the real life experience of many posters.
And that's only the small hybrid battery, dread what to think they will charge for the battery pack on a fully electric car.
Makes an £18k gearbox seem quite a bargain.
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