GT4 vs Mustang vs Base

GT4 vs Mustang vs Base

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Lexington59

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974 posts

72 months

Wednesday 19th January 2022
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Just a bit of fun, but that is some serious performance from the base.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MqOaqHbf9Q

Swine Enthusiast

314 posts

111 months

Thursday 20th January 2022
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It's the out braking a GT4 that got me.

Yes I know some track bunny with 9 GT4's will comment "well try doing it twenty times in a row on track and then come back to me" but back in the real world, seeing a bog-standard Cayman offer that level of performance is great for us mere mortals not on the list for the more exotic metal!

I know it's a four pot, I know it sounds like a black cab at idle, but it's a yellow porsche with a great chassis that will handle like a dream and yours for under 50k - hell, yours for under 40k second hand.

Why would you buy another sports car? TTS? A45 AMG? Mustang? Supra?

Rojibo

1,746 posts

84 months

Thursday 20th January 2022
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I don’t think Matt is pushing the brake pedal hard enough. I’ve owned both cars.

But yes the base Cayman is a bargain for what you get, holds value pretty well too and the running costs are fairly reasonable.

DJMC

3,521 posts

110 months

Thursday 20th January 2022
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Does that mean a 718S PDK would beat the GT4?

I think so...

DM101

58 posts

44 months

Thursday 20th January 2022
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DJMC said:
Does that mean a 718S PDK would beat the GT4?

I think so...
But not a PDK GT4

DJMC

3,521 posts

110 months

Thursday 20th January 2022
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DM101 said:
But not a PDK GT4
You sure?

N/A vs. Turbo... you never know...

DM101

58 posts

44 months

Thursday 20th January 2022
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Just look at the Porsche performance figures.
It's PDK vs Manual.
Mat Watson hasn't put PDK vs PDK as it would be a boring result.

Demhcs

194 posts

36 months

Thursday 20th January 2022
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Strong performance from the base. May explain why they have held their value so well:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QDFPew_Xms


david-j8694

484 posts

55 months

Thursday 20th January 2022
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Can't believe how well the 718 base held on even when the GT4 was roaring through 2nd and 3rd. Thought the 718 would win up to 30-40mph, and then the GT4 would just sail past it.

It took the Mustang until 120mph to get past the 718 too.

In one of the many 2.5S vs GTS 4.0 threads, a number of owners commented on how the 2.5S would be quicker in almost every real-world scenario... I can believe it tbh.

Edited by david-j8694 on Thursday 20th January 15:28

Lexington59

Original Poster:

974 posts

72 months

Thursday 20th January 2022
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DJMC said:
DM101 said:
But not a PDK GT4
You sure?

N/A vs. Turbo... you never know...
Would presume they have included the PDK times as they have included in gear acceleration in 7th:

GT4: https://fastestlaps.com/comparisons/pmlonea8gcsv

GTS 4.0: https://fastestlaps.com/comparisons/nnizzrc2lm02


Edited by Lexington59 on Thursday 20th January 15:39

Superlightdaa

131 posts

125 months

Thursday 20th January 2022
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Simply due to the longer gearing in the manual GT4.

Venisonpie

3,657 posts

89 months

Thursday 20th January 2022
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Superlightdaa said:
Simply due to the longer gearing in the manual GT4.
Yup, even with over 400hp the gearing still hobbles these cars. The brake test was a surprise mind.

130R

6,857 posts

213 months

Thursday 20th January 2022
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Superlightdaa said:
Simply due to the longer gearing in the manual GT4.
The PDK gear ratios are hardly any different.

It is more just PDK being much easier to launch and being in the wrong gear for the second rolling race. GT4 needs to be in 2nd gear at 50 mph not 3rd regardless of the gearbox. It would have walked away easily then.

anonymous-user

61 months

Thursday 20th January 2022
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Oh the sound of that 5.0 NA V8, just how a sports car should sound. You would buy it just for that and sod the 2 Dysons regardless of how fast they maybe

Stunters

592 posts

201 months

Thursday 20th January 2022
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At the risk of potentially stating the obvious - I think for most people there's a difference between what you want from a car if you borrow it for a couple of days, compared to what you want from a car as a long term ownership proposition.

I completely agree that a base 718 Cayman is properly fast and a lot of fun in the real world. But I'm pretty sure that after a while, the driver would find it a bit one-dimensional. Where the flat six models score is that they are interesting all the way through the rev range and the driver can find pleasure at low speeds and higher speeds.

I had a 718 Cayman T for a couple of days when my flat 6 Cayman was in for a major service and while I was pleasantly surprised and impressed with its performance, it didn't reward on the sensory level in the same way.

The base Cayman and the Cayman T are definitely a lot of car for the money, but while Porsche still offers a naturally aspirated flat six in a Cayman, that's the one I will buy and own.

I currently have a 718 GTS 4.0 and I absolutely love it as an overall package.

julian987R

6,840 posts

66 months

Thursday 20th January 2022
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130R said:
Superlightdaa said:
Simply due to the longer gearing in the manual GT4.
The PDK gear ratios are hardly any different.

It is more just PDK being much easier to launch and being in the wrong gear for the second rolling race. GT4 needs to be in 2nd gear at 50 mph not 3rd regardless of the gearbox. It would have walked away easily then.
thou doth protest too much. Lets face facts, the 4c base is a far superior car to the GT4.

DM101

58 posts

44 months

Thursday 20th January 2022
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julian987R said:
thou doth protest too much. Lets face facts, the 4c base is a far superior car to the GT4.
Comedy genius

GT4RS

4,687 posts

204 months

Thursday 20th January 2022
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Lexington59 said:
DJMC said:
DM101 said:
But not a PDK GT4
You sure?

N/A vs. Turbo... you never know...
Would presume they have included the PDK times as they have included in gear acceleration in 7th:

GT4: https://fastestlaps.com/comparisons/pmlonea8gcsv

GTS 4.0: https://fastestlaps.com/comparisons/nnizzrc2lm02


Edited by Lexington59 on Thursday 20th January 15:39
They are manual times as there are comments at the bottom which are two years old. The gt4 pdk wasn’t even manufactured two years ago for them to be able to test it!

julian987R

6,840 posts

66 months

Thursday 20th January 2022
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anonymous said:
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Most certainly speed wise

Legacywr

12,802 posts

195 months

Thursday 20th January 2022
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The Mustang has stupidly high gear ratios.