718 GT4 PCCBs or Not???

[N54]

Hi,

I'm finalising my 718 GT4 spec and deliberating over whether to get PCCBs.

Car won't be getting tracked and the only reason I can think of getting PCCBs is the lack of dust and I can get the calipers in yellow.

What the thoughts of the massive, get them or not?

Many thanks

[dashobbit]

Do you want PCCBs?

Genuinely the only question that matters

You could spec it with them, then take them off - 6k option but 20k to replace

[Twinfan]

How do you use your car?
How long are you planning on keeping it?
Are you prepared to pay the replacement cost if they get damaged?

As they have little effect on resale, your own use case, finances and level of risk acceptance will be the key deciding factors.

[ClioTrophy55]

N54 said:

Hi,

I'm finalising my 718 GT4 spec and deliberating over whether to get PCCBs.

Car won't be getting tracked and the only reason I can think of getting PCCBs is the lack of dust and I can get the calipers in yellow.

What the thoughts of the massive, get them or not?

Many thanks

Yes. Yellow calipers look great. I'm not a fan of red trim on cars (so red elements completely removed from my GT4), and the black calipers disappear.
And they do the job of stopping the car wonderfully well.

[N54]

Twinfan said:

How do you use your car?
How long are you planning on keeping it?
Are you prepared to pay the replacement cost if they get damaged?

As they have little effect on resale, your own use case, finances and level of risk acceptance will be the key deciding factors.

The car will be a weekend toy
I intend to keep it forever unless my finiancial situation changes.

Is replacement cost really £20k GBP????

[giles panizzi]

What’s the rest of the spec?

[Twinfan]

N54 said:

The car will be a weekend toy
I intend to keep it forever unless my finiancial situation changes.

Is replacement cost really £20k GBP????

Yes, circa £10k per axle for both discs and all pads. And you'll need them intact to OPC spec if you want to run the extended warranty after year 3.

You pays yer money and takes year choice.

[Wollemi]

The significantly lower weight of PCCBs (disc and hub) is of appreciable benefit to both ride comfort and steering feel. If you can afford them, get them - the difference is definitely worth it.

[981SPYGANG]

Twinfan said:

How do you use your car?
How long are you planning on keeping it?
Are you prepared to pay the replacement cost if they get damaged?

As they have little effect on resale, your own use case, finances and level of risk acceptance will be the key deciding factors.

Twin,
I respect your far superior knowledge of all things Porsche and cars in general but I question your ‘little effect on resale’ comment. Appreciate car with is not gonna obtain ~£6k more on resale but thinking it might be worth £3-4K more. Ceramic fitted (higher spec) cars appear to sell a bit quicker. Also never read on here about anyone having to fork out £20k for replacements.

I walked into ceramics by chance and yes they feel good to me but I then I don’t think I would notice the difference if I had steels as I’m sure they do a good job too. Cleaning is the only time I notice

In answer to original question I wouldn’t spec them for £6k but would be drawn to a car with them over the one without.

Thanks in advance.

[Twinfan]

So you lose £2k on resale if you spec them - that's kind of the point I was making

And while some people will actively look for them, others will actively avoid them.

Swings and roundabouts

[981SPYGANG]

True but thinking every option losses some value.

[Twinfan]

Not sure about that. Buckets don't, for example...

[Koln-RS]

I’ve had them on two previous Porsches, but not on my present one (bought pre-owned) - and I really miss them.
The benefits are quite significant.

They look great, don’t corrode, don’t create brake dust, perform brilliantly, should last forever - well 100k+ mls in normal use - and should add some value on resale (well I would pay extra).

The main technical reason for them is the unsprung weight saving that can marginally improve ride, handling, steering and performance.

If you are speccing your car to keep the overall weight down, then pccbs would provide a useful advantage.

[julian987R]

N54 said:

Hi,

I'm finalising my 718 GT4 spec and deliberating over whether to get PCCBs.

Car won't be getting tracked and the only reason I can think of getting PCCBs is the lack of dust and I can get the calipers in yellow.

What the thoughts of the massive, get them or not?

Many thanks

For the replacement costs of £20K+, you'd be better off getting the red callipers painted to the yellow colour code that they use and live with the dust....after all you go on to say its going to be a weekend toy. With that comes the obligatory weekend wash, so brake dust won't be a problem.The fact you didn't realise the PCCBs are the price of a hatchback to replace, it might be wise to share the rest of your spec for advice. Congratulations on your future GT4! Best regards

[981SPYGANG]

‘The main technical reason for them is the unsprung weight saving that can marginally improve ride, handling, steering and performance’

Agreed visually they look great but I’m quite sure I don’t notice any of the above.

[CNW25]

I had the previous generation GT4 and did not spec carbon brakes. I tracked my car and had no issue with the standard brakes. I wouldn’t spec the carbon brakes again if I were ordering a new one. The fear of replacement cost puts me off and pretty sure the standard brakes were standard on a gt3.

On the other hand carbon bucket seats were a must. I wouldn’t have a gt4 or gt3 without them.

[981SPYGANG]

Twinfan said:

Not sure about that. Buckets don't, for example...

True …..probably the ‘best performing’ option.

[981SPYGANG]

[981SPYGANG]

[finmac]

I’ve gone steel for both my GT4s. I’d far rather blow £6K odd on other more useful (to me at least) goodies like the essential buckets, LEDs cause I drive a lot at night and my eyesight ain’t as good as it was when I was young etc etc.

I don’t want to always have the worry of their condition/replacement costs/damage by a tyre fitter and the like. Tbh, were I buying second hand I wouldn’t seek a PCCB equipped car nor pay much if any premium for one. That’s me, many would disagree and that’s great, we are all different!