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I saw the article in my newsfeed and came here to see if it’s already being discussed. I have a Feb 2014 Boxster S which seems to be one of the affected models, but I’m in the UK and not heard anything from Porsche yet. I don’t even know if there will be a recall in the UK and Europe. And there is a bit of a rattle from the back end, but I’ve only noticed it on startup so I assumed it was something exhaust related. Maybe it is, maybe it isn’t! I wonder how involved the recall work is?
LunarOne said:
I wonder how involved the recall work is?
According to US linked article:Even though it would probably take a while, the fix is relatively simple. The company’s authorized technicians will inspect all cars and replace the affected rear-axle carrier side sections with new ones, produced to the original specification, where required.
I have a late 2012 981 Boxster S. It has a rattle at the back that is not engine or g/box, transmission related. It sounds like a baffle plate/heat shield. I have phoned Porsche UK today (15 Sep 2021) and asked them about the recalls applied to USA cars, there response was that there is no recall for my car. I have also gone onto the Porsche website and put my VN number into the recall section and this shows no recall. My car is booked into a Porsche dealership for its 80k mile service in about 4 weeks time. I have asked them to check out the rattle.
DJMC said:
2014 Cayman here.
PGB advised speak to my OPC.
My OPC say no outstanding recall.
Bearing in mind the notification to US dealers was just yesterday it may take a few days to reach UK dealers IF it also affects UK cars.
I can’t imagine it wouldn’t affect UK cars. They are all made in the same factory aren’t they?PGB advised speak to my OPC.
My OPC say no outstanding recall.
Bearing in mind the notification to US dealers was just yesterday it may take a few days to reach UK dealers IF it also affects UK cars.
I said to Jack at OPC Leics the same thing, they're all made in the same factory albeit with the steering wheel on the wrong side, but he said different markets get different spec.
I'm fairly sure the rear axle parts would be the same though, for UK and USA.
Give it a few days... or will PGB do a cover-up?
Axle-gate?
I'm fairly sure the rear axle parts would be the same though, for UK and USA.
Give it a few days... or will PGB do a cover-up?
Axle-gate?
Slippydiff said:
But knowing the way the great 981 brake pedal bush replacement was handled, they'll try and fob the cost of on the owners ...
Despite the fact this has been described as a "voluntary safety recall out of an abundance of caution” this is something that they are not going to be able to ignore.A major suspension component which has "a 100% estimated defect rate" which can lead to loss of vehicle control is not a leaky washer bottle.
If the US and UK cars share this casting they will get recalled.
981Boxess said:
espite the fact this has been described as a "voluntary safety recall out of an abundance of caution” this is something that they are not going to be able to ignore.
A major suspension component which has "a 100% estimated defect rate" which can lead to loss of vehicle control is not a leaky washer bottle.
If the US and UK cars share this casting they will get recalled.
I've edited my post, so your quote doesn't make a lot of sense now I'm afraid ...A major suspension component which has "a 100% estimated defect rate" which can lead to loss of vehicle control is not a leaky washer bottle.
If the US and UK cars share this casting they will get recalled.
But I'd suggest that a car's brakes effectively seizing on due to the pedal bushes sticking to the pivot they run on once they get hot, is just as safety critical as a rear suspension component failing ...
981Boxess said:
Slippydiff said:
But knowing the way the great 981 brake pedal bush replacement was handled, they'll try and fob the cost of on the owners ...
Despite the fact this has been described as a "voluntary safety recall out of an abundance of caution” this is something that they are not going to be able to ignore.A major suspension component which has "a 100% estimated defect rate" which can lead to loss of vehicle control is not a leaky washer bottle.
If the US and UK cars share this casting they will get recalled.
NHTSA PDF said:
The term In August 2021, the final assessment was available and additional field data revealed one part with cracks in
the second carrier. August 25, 2021, Porsche decided to conduct a voluntary safety recall out of abundance of
caution.
I'm not so sure. If it's a voluntary recall and "out of an abundance of caution", then it would be quite easy for them to say something along the lines of "the more temperate climate in the UK is less conducive to cracks forming and we do not feel it necessary to replace parts in the UK market". I'm not holding my breath!the second carrier. August 25, 2021, Porsche decided to conduct a voluntary safety recall out of abundance of
caution.
After I bought my car I had issues with a sticky brake pedal which I felt was a definite safety issue. The OPC I went to said it wasn't a recall item and that if I wanted it fixed, I'd have to pay up. Is this something others got fixed for free?
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anonymous said:
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Can you imagine the cost of recalling all 2012-2015 Boxsters and Caymen out there worldwide? Using stats I found here https://www.statista.com/statistics/462917/worldwi... let's say it's an average of 22,000 per year, so 88,000 cars in total.Lets say the cost per vehicle to perform the recall is £100 for the admin to trace and write to owners and to continue this for every car that changes hands and hasn't had the work done. Let's say the cost of the parts is £250, and it takes two hours at £100ph to fit. So that's £550 per car. Or £48M total.
Now let's say they do nothing, and one car out of 100 has a part that actually fails. And out of those, one in one hundred causes an accident where one person is killed. That's 8.8 accidents, or 9, because I've never seen an eighth of an accident in the wild. And they have to pay a million pound compensation to the family of the person who died. That's a risk of £9M vs £48M that they would have to pay to carry out the recall. Of course then there's reputational damage to account for. But will people stop buying 911s because they heard that the suspension carrier on a few Boxsters failed? I doubt it. Obviously I've completely guessed at the costs involved. But I think I've overestimated the number of deaths and I've underestimated the costs of the recall, so I do believe that a recall would be much more expensive than paying compensation.
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