Why so much negativity on here about the 981?
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It seems to me that there are some on this particular forum who seem to have nothing better to do than run down anything 981 related, regardless as to whether the car is at fault or not. Don't get it, genuine question, why?
Option one, they have a 981 so want to lower the value of their own car when they come to sell it (not overly bright)
Option two, they sold their 981 before the prices went up and wish they hadn't bailed out on the cheap (bitter)
Option three, they are 718 owners happy they moved on (why bother)
Option four, they are Porsche owners who takes pleasure in damaging the brand they own through loose talk (short sighted)
Option five, don't have and never have owned a Porsche but do it because they have nothing better to do (get a life)
Which is the most likely here?
Option one, they have a 981 so want to lower the value of their own car when they come to sell it (not overly bright)
Option two, they sold their 981 before the prices went up and wish they hadn't bailed out on the cheap (bitter)
Option three, they are 718 owners happy they moved on (why bother)
Option four, they are Porsche owners who takes pleasure in damaging the brand they own through loose talk (short sighted)
Option five, don't have and never have owned a Porsche but do it because they have nothing better to do (get a life)
Which is the most likely here?
Edited by 981Boxess on Friday 11th June 12:34
I don't understand why people get butt hurt about what other people think. Who cares, really. If you do, take a long hard look at yourself and get over it.
Not driven a 981, be happy to, be happy to own one and am sure it would be bloody good fun. I have a lowly 718 F4T, us owners are looked down upon in the same way as 996 owners (I'm joking BTW, actually love 996's - especially the widebodies).
At the end of the day it's the internets and people behave quite differently to how they would in person. If anything I'd say there's way more 981 fanboys on here than 718 owners claiming their cars are better/berating the 981. YMMV.
More politics than Parliament, no thick skin required, its all banter and if you feel otherwise, don't sweat it - enjoy your car and life, there's more to worry about than strangers on the www.
Not driven a 981, be happy to, be happy to own one and am sure it would be bloody good fun. I have a lowly 718 F4T, us owners are looked down upon in the same way as 996 owners (I'm joking BTW, actually love 996's - especially the widebodies).
At the end of the day it's the internets and people behave quite differently to how they would in person. If anything I'd say there's way more 981 fanboys on here than 718 owners claiming their cars are better/berating the 981. YMMV.
More politics than Parliament, no thick skin required, its all banter and if you feel otherwise, don't sweat it - enjoy your car and life, there's more to worry about than strangers on the www.
Varelco said:
Having recently shown an interest in Porsches and spend more time reading and looking around forums I've notice you lot are a hostile bunch to each other. Find it odd from an outsiders perspective.
Have often heard this view. Perhaps Rowan Atkinson was thinking along similar lines when he said, "They’re wonderful cars – I don’t go around saying Porsches are a pile of dung – but I know I could never live with one. Somehow the typical Porsche people – and I wish them no ill – are not, I feel, my kind of people."Varelco said:
Having recently shown an interest in Porsches and spend more time reading and looking around forums I've notice you lot are a hostile bunch to each other. Find it odd from an outsiders perspective.
There are a few tetchy individuals willing to square up at the merest hint of disagreement, there are also know-it-alls, obsessives and people who seem to have some sort of online ASD. Some threads are very helpful and others very entertaining, but we're always just a post away from a spat.pete.g said:
There are a few tetchy individuals willing to square up at the merest hint of disagreement, there are also know-it-alls, obsessives and people who seem to have some sort of online ASD. Some threads are very helpful and others very entertaining, but we're always just a post away from a spat.
No we're notAlways a few unsavory characters spurred on by anonymous posting, that said there's also some good knowledge and helpful posters on here too.
As for the war between different owner 'tribes', either the brand attracts certain personalities OR perhaps car talk is one of the few safe subjects left these days where people can let loose and vent their thoughts without the risk of being pounced on by the 'woke' police...
987 is the best version anyway, who cares about 981s and 718s..
As for the war between different owner 'tribes', either the brand attracts certain personalities OR perhaps car talk is one of the few safe subjects left these days where people can let loose and vent their thoughts without the risk of being pounced on by the 'woke' police...
987 is the best version anyway, who cares about 981s and 718s..
Lexington59 said:
Always a few unsavory characters spurred on by anonymous posting, that said there's also some good knowledge and helpful posters on here too.
As for the war between different owner 'tribes', either the brand attracts certain personalities OR perhaps car talk is one of the few safe subjects left these days where people can let loose and vent their thoughts without the risk of being pounced on by the 'woke' police...
987 is the best version anyway, who cares about 981s and 718s..
As for the war between different owner 'tribes', either the brand attracts certain personalities OR perhaps car talk is one of the few safe subjects left these days where people can let loose and vent their thoughts without the risk of being pounced on by the 'woke' police...
987 is the best version anyway, who cares about 981s and 718s..
that’s rich...I think there's a bit of psychology going on with this particular subject.
First, whatever car you own you want to know you made a good decision when you bought it. No one wants to hear that the car they've just spent their hard earned on is a nail, everyone hates it and they made a bad decision. So when someone asks a question about the 981 or 982 (718) it sparks a need to sing the virtues of their car over the others.
Second, there are things the 981 does better than the 982 and vice versa. the two camps spend an inordinate amount of time arguing about this and the outcome is always the same, no one wins because no one can win, you like what you like, you bought what you bought and the differences are mostly irrelevant to the rest of us who either get bored of listening to the same old arguments and leave or try to take the middle ground and point out the good in both.
Third, there were (are
) some people who posted views on many of these debates that were so polarised and sometimes quite offensive it took away the pleasure of debate and frankly made the subject of comparing the 2 models and the previous 987/986 quite toxic.
I've owned 987/981/982 and have posted my thoughts on the merits of all of them on PH in the past and the 981 is in my humble opinion still a quite brilliant car to own and enjoy as is the 982 and 987. Try them all and buy the one you like.
First, whatever car you own you want to know you made a good decision when you bought it. No one wants to hear that the car they've just spent their hard earned on is a nail, everyone hates it and they made a bad decision. So when someone asks a question about the 981 or 982 (718) it sparks a need to sing the virtues of their car over the others.
Second, there are things the 981 does better than the 982 and vice versa. the two camps spend an inordinate amount of time arguing about this and the outcome is always the same, no one wins because no one can win, you like what you like, you bought what you bought and the differences are mostly irrelevant to the rest of us who either get bored of listening to the same old arguments and leave or try to take the middle ground and point out the good in both.
Third, there were (are
) some people who posted views on many of these debates that were so polarised and sometimes quite offensive it took away the pleasure of debate and frankly made the subject of comparing the 2 models and the previous 987/986 quite toxic.I've owned 987/981/982 and have posted my thoughts on the merits of all of them on PH in the past and the 981 is in my humble opinion still a quite brilliant car to own and enjoy as is the 982 and 987. Try them all and buy the one you like.
It's all just b
ks anyway.
Years ago the magazines used to slag of the 964RS and you could them up for pence. Probably everyone kept spouting the same guff, now look at them.
When those funny kettle came along () a lot of air cooled folk got very shouty, even worse when the 4x4 came along.
At the end of the day they are all great cars, even the tips, and there is really very little between them.
ks anyway.Years ago the magazines used to slag of the 964RS and you could them up for pence. Probably everyone kept spouting the same guff, now look at them.
When those funny kettle came along (
) a lot of air cooled folk got very shouty, even worse when the 4x4 came along.At the end of the day they are all great cars, even the tips, and there is really very little between them.
You would expect the later car to be an improvement which should in no way reflect badly on the 981. I owned a 981 Boxter S for a while and have since been through a 991.2 C2S and now have a 992 C4S. Much as I respect and admire the 911s, I look back on my time with the 981 with great fondness and have not had more fun in a car. I recently drove the 718 GTS 4.0 which was stunning but the only real world difference I could detect between it and my 981 was the additional grunt of the engine. You would have to drive them back to back to detect any handling differences - even the interiors are hardly any different.
Not having driven my 981 since February which is my fun car for track and Peak District blastsdue to it being in the shop, seeing Instagram posts of the work quite regularly. Not driving my company car due to customers not accepting visitors where I used to do 20k+ business miles per year all over the UK and now just using my wife’s Golf convertible for running around the village I think any Porsche is just brilliant.
I’m not bitter, honest…
I’m not bitter, honest…
Honestly? I think it sits in a strange place whereby some with 987s will feel the need to justify to themselves that that is the better car, and then some 911 owners will look down on the caysters because it’s ‘not a real Porsche’. People in those groups are in the minority of true enthusiasts but their posts will crop up.
I think the 981 is fab, steering is nothing like the Lotus I had before it but it’s incredibly precise, the chassis is lovely, interior well ahead of the 987 and the engine, particularly with PSE or aftermarket equivalent will be remembered as a special one.
Anyway, I don’t think there is such thing as a bad 2 door water cooled Porsche, they’re all different in their own ways.
I think the 981 is fab, steering is nothing like the Lotus I had before it but it’s incredibly precise, the chassis is lovely, interior well ahead of the 987 and the engine, particularly with PSE or aftermarket equivalent will be remembered as a special one.
Anyway, I don’t think there is such thing as a bad 2 door water cooled Porsche, they’re all different in their own ways.
Whatevs
The 981 Boxster S (PDK) is the only Porker I’ve driven. 6 months of ownership later, I’m really warming to it.
Perhaps I was always gonna give it a hard time as I really enjoyed the V8 Vantage S before it (shifted for a motorhome... idiot that I am). That car had masses of personality, also in non-manual.
But... but... after two days of longer drives with the roof down, it’s proven to be an absolute blast down B-roads. Tackling corners is its party piece. Ride quality, even on the larger alloys without adaptive suspension, is to be really admired. Engine is good for pootling around in, but when you get the chance to stretch it, it really grabs your attention.
Biggest surprise is how much I have it in paddle mode. I love switching between standard, Sport and Sport + to suit the road and mood. Could easily live in an example without the S+ mode, but the rifle bolt gear changes are fun. Wish the paddles rotated with the wheel, but it’s actually interactive and fun.
And gearing is spot-on in a PDK. Never driven a manual, so no comment either way there.
Sound isn’t it’s strong point. Always find Porsche boxer engines sound like a bag of spanners until spinning faster. Still think that personally, but that’s just me. Not going to start playing with exhausts as it’s not a detractor for me when on the move. Just still miss the amazing burble of a great V8.
Is it better than the Boxsters or Caymans before or after? Don’t know. Don’t care. It suits me. Hope others enjoy their cars regardless what model. Just drive the thing.
The 981 Boxster S (PDK) is the only Porker I’ve driven. 6 months of ownership later, I’m really warming to it.
Perhaps I was always gonna give it a hard time as I really enjoyed the V8 Vantage S before it (shifted for a motorhome... idiot that I am). That car had masses of personality, also in non-manual.
But... but... after two days of longer drives with the roof down, it’s proven to be an absolute blast down B-roads. Tackling corners is its party piece. Ride quality, even on the larger alloys without adaptive suspension, is to be really admired. Engine is good for pootling around in, but when you get the chance to stretch it, it really grabs your attention.
Biggest surprise is how much I have it in paddle mode. I love switching between standard, Sport and Sport + to suit the road and mood. Could easily live in an example without the S+ mode, but the rifle bolt gear changes are fun. Wish the paddles rotated with the wheel, but it’s actually interactive and fun.
And gearing is spot-on in a PDK. Never driven a manual, so no comment either way there.
Sound isn’t it’s strong point. Always find Porsche boxer engines sound like a bag of spanners until spinning faster. Still think that personally, but that’s just me. Not going to start playing with exhausts as it’s not a detractor for me when on the move. Just still miss the amazing burble of a great V8.
Is it better than the Boxsters or Caymans before or after? Don’t know. Don’t care. It suits me. Hope others enjoy their cars regardless what model. Just drive the thing.
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