Conn Rods Again
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Apparently a batch of 4.0L engines require rectification, according to German forums.
"Update from my PZ:
- all 4.0L affected 19.01 - 04.03.2021
- Connecting rods do not meet the requirements of Porsche quality.
- Can lead to engine damage.
- Connecting rods have to be replaced, but they will only be available from week 20 onwards."
Seems a Center engine replacement programme is planned?
Anyone have better information?
"Update from my PZ:
- all 4.0L affected 19.01 - 04.03.2021
- Connecting rods do not meet the requirements of Porsche quality.
- Can lead to engine damage.
- Connecting rods have to be replaced, but they will only be available from week 20 onwards."
Seems a Center engine replacement programme is planned?
Anyone have better information?
More penny pinching from Porsche. They need to take a leaf out of Ferrari's book in terms of quality of components they put in their engines. Read on Rennlist that the latest GT3/RS are prone to failure caused by over aggressive PDK gear changes. Sounds like the new solid valvetrain is causing a new set of problems as well as lash caps failing with catastrophic engine failures.
Edited by Taffy66 on Tuesday 23 March 07:49
Twinfan said:
They'll be able to track exact parts batches into production cars. I would expect Porsche to know exactly which engines are affected and where they are.
Based on the incredible organisation I witnessed on a factory tour, I would be surprised if they can't trace the batch number of every significant item in every car.minimalist said:
Twinfan said:
They'll be able to track exact parts batches into production cars. I would expect Porsche to know exactly which engines are affected and where they are.
Based on the incredible organisation I witnessed on a factory tour, I would be surprised if they can't trace the batch number of every significant item in every car.
Totally agree. The factory in action is incredible to watch!
Porsche completely replaced all 991.1 GT3 engines 2013 2014 including OPC engine swaps for delivered cars. The number of current 4.0 engines affected Caysters must be smaller if they intend rebuilding.
Wouldn't really fancy an OPC stripping down and rebuilding my just delivered new cars engine. From memory a batch of early E46 M3s incl mine had a similar issue but the car was fine ran for a few years after no issues.
Had a 997 C4S Cab which suffered from the dreaded piston slap at just less than 3years old 12k miles. OPC drafted in a Porsche 'master technician' to rebuild the engine at the time. Wonder where they will suddenly source all of these MTs required for all the 4.0 rebuilds....
Wouldn't really fancy an OPC stripping down and rebuilding my just delivered new cars engine. From memory a batch of early E46 M3s incl mine had a similar issue but the car was fine ran for a few years after no issues.
Had a 997 C4S Cab which suffered from the dreaded piston slap at just less than 3years old 12k miles. OPC drafted in a Porsche 'master technician' to rebuild the engine at the time. Wonder where they will suddenly source all of these MTs required for all the 4.0 rebuilds....
Does anyone know if one would have the option of rejecting the car ? I would not be happy spending over £80k on a brand new car only to have its engine re-built. I have got a new Spyder coming in June so this is a relevant point for me as Porsche seem to be having a number of issues over last twelve months - it pains me to say this as I have been driving their cars for 35 years. My current 718 BGTS turbo has had to have both PADM units replaced in last three months and it appears new 911 and 781 are continuing to have PADM issue#.
I'm not sure you can reject it as Porsche are fixing the problem before you've bought it. You could not go ahead with the purchase but you may lose your deposit. You'd need to have a chat with your OPC if you're seriously not considering going ahead with the purchase.
PADM issues are a pain as they're widespread but most likely covered under warranty in the first 3 years. After that you either tie yourself to the extended warranty or maintain a war chest for the inevitable failure(s). I'll be doing the latter.
PADM issues are a pain as they're widespread but most likely covered under warranty in the first 3 years. After that you either tie yourself to the extended warranty or maintain a war chest for the inevitable failure(s). I'll be doing the latter.
WG said:
Does anyone know if one would have the option of rejecting the car ? I would not be happy spending over £80k on a brand new car only to have its engine re-built. I have got a new Spyder coming in June ...
Ordinarily it should be an option for you, but with the Spyder being so rare and sought after (allegedly OPCs are only getting max 2 all year) I think you have better options on that car than rejecting it.On topic, conrod issues are a bit of worry given failure = irreparable engine, and while I am sure this is just precautionary I'd be interested to know how they found the issue.
Not here to bash Porsche - I love them and have always hankered after one and still have one on my bucket list. But what is it with them and engine issues/failures - for a premium marque it's really quite unbelievable?
I looked at and tested a few Cayman S models and really liked them but ultimately I went for an Evora due to the reliable mechanicals though I cannot lie that I am also a big Lotus fan which was perhaps the decisive tipping factor.
I hope to have a Porsche model at some stage but the reputation for troublesome engines, usually only sorted for large sums of money, really is off putting.
I looked at and tested a few Cayman S models and really liked them but ultimately I went for an Evora due to the reliable mechanicals though I cannot lie that I am also a big Lotus fan which was perhaps the decisive tipping factor.
I hope to have a Porsche model at some stage but the reputation for troublesome engines, usually only sorted for large sums of money, really is off putting.
OPOGTS said:
I wonder how accurately precise the dates are..... mine was built first week of Jan, bit too close for comfort
My car was built the first week in February and is not affected. My dealer hasn't had a single car affected and quotes "a limited number of cars". So unless you get the call, you should be alright.
Lotobear said:
Not here to bash Porsche - I love them and have always hankered after one and still have one on my bucket list. But what is it with them and engine issues/failures - for a premium marque it's really quite unbelievable?
I looked at and tested a few Cayman S models and really liked them but ultimately I went for an Evora due to the reliable mechanicals though I cannot lie that I am also a big Lotus fan which was perhaps the decisive tipping factor.
I hope to have a Porsche model at some stage but the reputation for troublesome engines, usually only sorted for large sums of money, really is off putting.
But if it's your perception of reliability that's putting you off why do you still want one? Please don't fall into the trap of internet folklore, there are plenty of satisfied owners worldwide, me included, but who wants to read boring stuff about trouble free motoring? Like most things in life - there are no guarantees. I looked at and tested a few Cayman S models and really liked them but ultimately I went for an Evora due to the reliable mechanicals though I cannot lie that I am also a big Lotus fan which was perhaps the decisive tipping factor.
I hope to have a Porsche model at some stage but the reputation for troublesome engines, usually only sorted for large sums of money, really is off putting.
L.Len said:
Should of collected my gt4 this week. Got a call the other day from the opc to say my car is affected.
And gonna be end of may at the VERY earliest. Offered a full refund of my deposit
That is a horrible situation to be in, you've waited don't know how long to get the car and now it's taken away literally hours before collection. They offer you a full refund, what do you do take it and end up at the back of the queue again or accept a brand new car with a rebuilt engine or choose another make?And gonna be end of may at the VERY earliest. Offered a full refund of my deposit
Unless there's a decent offer involved like a big discount I don't think I'd want a new car with a rebuilt engine, I know they've been built already but that's not the point, only used cars should have their engines rebuilt, I'd want a brand new unit or not at all.
Crazy4557 said:
L.Len said:
Should of collected my gt4 this week. Got a call the other day from the opc to say my car is affected.
And gonna be end of may at the VERY earliest. Offered a full refund of my deposit
That is a horrible situation to be in, you've waited don't know how long to get the car and now it's taken away literally hours before collection. They offer you a full refund, what do you do take it and end up at the back of the queue again or accept a brand new car with a rebuilt engine or choose another make?And gonna be end of may at the VERY earliest. Offered a full refund of my deposit
Unless there's a decent offer involved like a big discount I don't think I'd want a new car with a rebuilt engine, I know they've been built already but that's not the point, only used cars should have their engines rebuilt, I'd want a brand new unit or not at all.
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