981 GTS future value
Discussion
Petrolhead said:
Do you think the value of the 981 GTS is going to go up or down
I think it will remain steady for a while (if not go up slightly) till the 718 GTS 4.0 start becoming available secondhand.....in about 3 years. I can't see them dropping much below £45kOf more concern would be 718 GTS owners with the 2.5T engine. Currently used ones are around £50-£65k and I am pretty sure these will drop considerably in the short to medium term.
I should mention though that all the above is PURE guesswork
Look at this one for £58k
https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/10642567?c...
It has a fully loaded spec and if it had the 4.0 engine it would probably command a price around £75k
This 981 GTS with a similar spec (but no PCCB) is £54k
https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/10685791?c...
I think the 981 GTS will be safe for a while
https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/10642567?c...
It has a fully loaded spec and if it had the 4.0 engine it would probably command a price around £75k
This 981 GTS with a similar spec (but no PCCB) is £54k
https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/10685791?c...
I think the 981 GTS will be safe for a while
v8ksn said:
Look at this one for £58k
https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/10642567?c...
It has a fully loaded spec and if it had the 4.0 engine it would probably command a price around £75k
This 981 GTS with a similar spec (but no PCCB) is £54k
https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/10685791?c...
I think the 981 GTS will be safe for a while
It’s a tough one as it’s not that good a car, in fact for £50k the 2.5 GTS wins imo better car all round and a remap gives you 440bhp !!! https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/10642567?c...
It has a fully loaded spec and if it had the 4.0 engine it would probably command a price around £75k
This 981 GTS with a similar spec (but no PCCB) is £54k
https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/10685791?c...
I think the 981 GTS will be safe for a while
Boxster GTS much cheaper than Cayman which is odd esp when they are £10k plus cheaper, must be the better buy than the Cayman also.
Eps and long gearing kills the car for a driver so less demand.
v8ksn said:
If you don't mind the sound from the 2.5T, it's a truly lovely sports car.
Yep better to drive in every way than a 981.Very very fast car also.
Now Boxster cost more than Caymans , I don’t get the Cayman 3.4 GTS price point.
3.4 Boxster GTS mint low milers are £42k so why buy the Cayman at £55k ?
Porsche911R said:
Yep better to drive in every way than a 981.
Very very fast car also.
Now Boxster cost more than Caymans , I don’t get the Cayman 3.4 GTS price point.
3.4 Boxster GTS mint low milers are £42k so why buy the Cayman at £55k ?
Mint low mileage GTS Boxsters at 42k? Worth a look if I could find them?Very very fast car also.
Now Boxster cost more than Caymans , I don’t get the Cayman 3.4 GTS price point.
3.4 Boxster GTS mint low milers are £42k so why buy the Cayman at £55k ?
Petrolhead said:
Higher mileage ones
Redline have had a few sub 20k miles full GTS spec at £42kThey are still £10k then caymans.
Also private ones are priced at about £42k been close to buying a few times but would have to be PDK and that’s the rub.
I can do one bad thing, but I could not do eps and long gears as a fun car.
But you can buy a 2019 M2 comp with M comp brakes for £40k now, so a Cayman GTS is way to expensive imo for a 2014 car.
Porsche911R said:
Redline have had a few sub 20k miles full GTS spec at £42k
They are still £10k then caymans.
Also private ones are priced at about £42k been close to buying a few times but would have to be PDK and that’s the rub.
I can do one bad thing, but I could not do eps and long gears as a fun car.
But you can buy a 2019 M2 comp with M comp brakes for £40k now, so a Cayman GTS is way to expensive imo for a 2014 car.
just looked at redline, can see any boxsters thereThey are still £10k then caymans.
Also private ones are priced at about £42k been close to buying a few times but would have to be PDK and that’s the rub.
I can do one bad thing, but I could not do eps and long gears as a fun car.
But you can buy a 2019 M2 comp with M comp brakes for £40k now, so a Cayman GTS is way to expensive imo for a 2014 car.
in the short to medium term i think 981 values will continue their very gradual move down and GTS values may indeed consolidate around the £40-45k mark.
in the long to very long term though, i think the 981 may be the model that stands the test of time vs the 987 and the 718. in 10 or 20 years time and beyond, the slight differences in performance, handling or tech won't matter. what will matter is how the cars make you feel when you drive them and IMO there won't be anything that will come close to the drama and emotion that you get from hearing and feeling that 981 F6 crescendo to the red line.
the 987 may well give the 981 a run for its money and it will be interesting to see what happens in that regard.
i think the 718, especially the 2.0 and 2.5 turbo variants will become a bit pointless once the electric cayman (or whatever takes its place) emerges way faster and way more advanced tech wise. but even the 4.0 GTS and GT4 are so much quieter than their 987/981 counterparts and again, in the long term the differences in power and chassis won't be as important (they're not that much of a big deal even now). but who knows, maybe the Turbo variants will have some kind of 'ugly duckling' appeal and may turn out to be a big deal in decades to come?
the Cayman in the grand scheme of things is a pretty rare car and i think that at some point the mid engined and true "driver's car" nature of the car in any form or shape will be recognised, in direct contrast to the 'poor man's Porsche image it largely has now, and this will cement its place as an important car in Porsche's history.
in the long to very long term though, i think the 981 may be the model that stands the test of time vs the 987 and the 718. in 10 or 20 years time and beyond, the slight differences in performance, handling or tech won't matter. what will matter is how the cars make you feel when you drive them and IMO there won't be anything that will come close to the drama and emotion that you get from hearing and feeling that 981 F6 crescendo to the red line.
the 987 may well give the 981 a run for its money and it will be interesting to see what happens in that regard.
i think the 718, especially the 2.0 and 2.5 turbo variants will become a bit pointless once the electric cayman (or whatever takes its place) emerges way faster and way more advanced tech wise. but even the 4.0 GTS and GT4 are so much quieter than their 987/981 counterparts and again, in the long term the differences in power and chassis won't be as important (they're not that much of a big deal even now). but who knows, maybe the Turbo variants will have some kind of 'ugly duckling' appeal and may turn out to be a big deal in decades to come?
the Cayman in the grand scheme of things is a pretty rare car and i think that at some point the mid engined and true "driver's car" nature of the car in any form or shape will be recognised, in direct contrast to the 'poor man's Porsche image it largely has now, and this will cement its place as an important car in Porsche's history.
JasonSteel said:
in the short to medium term i think 981 values will continue their very gradual move down and GTS values may indeed consolidate around the £40-45k mark.
in the long to very long term though, i think the 981 may be the model that stands the test of time vs the 987 and the 718. in 10 or 20 years time and beyond, the slight differences in performance, handling or tech won't matter. what will matter is how the cars make you feel when you drive them and IMO there won't be anything that will come close to the drama and emotion that you get from hearing and feeling that 981 F6 crescendo to the red line.
the 987 may well give the 981 a run for its money and it will be interesting to see what happens in that regard.
i think the 718, especially the 2.0 and 2.5 turbo variants will become a bit pointless once the electric cayman (or whatever takes its place) emerges way faster and way more advanced tech wise. but even the 4.0 GTS and GT4 are so much quieter than their 987/981 counterparts and again, in the long term the differences in power and chassis won't be as important (they're not that much of a big deal even now). but who knows, maybe the Turbo variants will have some kind of 'ugly duckling' appeal and may turn out to be a big deal in decades to come?
the Cayman in the grand scheme of things is a pretty rare car and i think that at some point the mid engined and true "driver's car" nature of the car in any form or shape will be recognised, in direct contrast to the 'poor man's Porsche image it largely has now, and this will cement its place as an important car in Porsche's history.
When I was younger, for me, the ONLY Porsche that is a PROPER Porsche is the one with the engine in the back. That's the one I dreamt of and lusted for. I have had a 964, a 997.1 C2S and a 997.1 GT3 and all of them were magnificent in their own way.in the long to very long term though, i think the 981 may be the model that stands the test of time vs the 987 and the 718. in 10 or 20 years time and beyond, the slight differences in performance, handling or tech won't matter. what will matter is how the cars make you feel when you drive them and IMO there won't be anything that will come close to the drama and emotion that you get from hearing and feeling that 981 F6 crescendo to the red line.
the 987 may well give the 981 a run for its money and it will be interesting to see what happens in that regard.
i think the 718, especially the 2.0 and 2.5 turbo variants will become a bit pointless once the electric cayman (or whatever takes its place) emerges way faster and way more advanced tech wise. but even the 4.0 GTS and GT4 are so much quieter than their 987/981 counterparts and again, in the long term the differences in power and chassis won't be as important (they're not that much of a big deal even now). but who knows, maybe the Turbo variants will have some kind of 'ugly duckling' appeal and may turn out to be a big deal in decades to come?
the Cayman in the grand scheme of things is a pretty rare car and i think that at some point the mid engined and true "driver's car" nature of the car in any form or shape will be recognised, in direct contrast to the 'poor man's Porsche image it largely has now, and this will cement its place as an important car in Porsche's history.
The mid engined models like the Boxster and Cayman never really appealed to me till I drove them. Once I drove them I loved them. The balance and handling is great and they feel small and nimble and easy to place on the road.
As the 911 morphs into more of a larger GT type car, I think the mid engined models will find their own market and will appeal to more and more drivers.
As a side note, I think the 911 stopped feeling rear engined when the 991 came along.
v8ksn said:
Of more concern would be 718 GTS owners with the 2.5T engine. Currently used ones are around £50-£65k and I am pretty sure these will drop considerably in the short to medium term.
I should mention though that all the above is PURE guesswork
Guesswork indeed, people do seem to love a bit of forum scaremongering. Fact is they are all low volume cars so values will remain strong for as long as the market remains relatively upbeat and I can also say from experience, despite the protestations of existing owners with vested interests in talking up their cars, the 981 is significantly flawed in the key areas mentioned. I should mention though that all the above is PURE guesswork
Interestingly enough there was a thread in the main section recently regarding fawning press reviews being utterly worthless, quid pro quo arrangements et al, I think given all the hype vs my experience of ownership, the 981 is indeed a massively overrated car.
As for future classics, the 718 apart I currently think my money would be on a 987 manual rather than the 981 with all its flaws, presuming of course you can find one.
Edited by anonymous-user on Saturday 1st August 11:56
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