Cayman - the new 911...?
Discussion
I've heard a lot of people, including employees at OPC's, refer to the 981 as being what the 911 should have been!!
I have a Cayman GTS on order and must say whilst loving everything 911 the newer models just aren't for me.
Whilst the 981 isn't that much smaller it just seems more of a sports car to me.
Discuss.....
I have a Cayman GTS on order and must say whilst loving everything 911 the newer models just aren't for me.
Whilst the 981 isn't that much smaller it just seems more of a sports car to me.
Discuss.....
V8KSN said:
The 911 is dead (to me)
The Cayman will always be a Cayman (which is a great handling sports car) but its not and never will be a replacement for the 911.
I think in years to come, people will move back to the old 911's and the air-cooled ones to get their rear-engined thrills.
What's that you say? The 997 will be regarded as the last real 911 and values - especially GT cars - will simply go mental?The Cayman will always be a Cayman (which is a great handling sports car) but its not and never will be a replacement for the 911.
I think in years to come, people will move back to the old 911's and the air-cooled ones to get their rear-engined thrills.
Excellent
GreatPretender said:
V8KSN said:
The 911 is dead (to me)
The Cayman will always be a Cayman (which is a great handling sports car) but its not and never will be a replacement for the 911.
I think in years to come, people will move back to the old 911's and the air-cooled ones to get their rear-engined thrills.
What's that you say? The 997 will be regarded as the last real 911 and values - especially GT cars - will simply go mental?The Cayman will always be a Cayman (which is a great handling sports car) but its not and never will be a replacement for the 911.
I think in years to come, people will move back to the old 911's and the air-cooled ones to get their rear-engined thrills.
Excellent
Roll Up! Roll Up! Get em while you can kids they wont be here for long
paralla said:
I wonder if one day we will look back and think of the 981 Cayman as the last naturally aspirated flat six Cayman in a similar way to a 993 being the last of the air cooled 911's.
Quite possibly.The rumored four-pot will be turbo'd, but wont be a Turbo and Porsche has already hit us with the turbo'd Macan S and the err, Macan Turbo.
Ergo, the next 911/Cayman/Anything else that Porsche's marketeers dream up over their Mochachinos, will be turbo-charged. Or battery powered.
Great, eh?
V8KSN said:
GreatPretender said:
V8KSN said:
The 911 is dead (to me)
The Cayman will always be a Cayman (which is a great handling sports car) but its not and never will be a replacement for the 911.
I think in years to come, people will move back to the old 911's and the air-cooled ones to get their rear-engined thrills.
What's that you say? The 997 will be regarded as the last real 911 and values - especially GT cars - will simply go mental?The Cayman will always be a Cayman (which is a great handling sports car) but its not and never will be a replacement for the 911.
I think in years to come, people will move back to the old 911's and the air-cooled ones to get their rear-engined thrills.
Excellent
Roll Up! Roll Up! Get em while you can kids they wont be here for long
Budweiser said:
I've heard a lot of people, including employees at OPC's, refer to the 981 as being what the 911 should have been!!
I have a Cayman GTS on order and must say whilst loving everything 911 the newer models just aren't for me.
Whilst the 981 isn't that much smaller it just seems more of a sports car to me.
Discuss.....
Is the 981 now available with rear seats then????I have a Cayman GTS on order and must say whilst loving everything 911 the newer models just aren't for me.
Whilst the 981 isn't that much smaller it just seems more of a sports car to me.
Discuss.....
I think the 911 has out grown itself. The Cayman is the size and usability (rear seats aside) that the 911 historically was. It amuses me that porche's top level racing cars and super cars (apart from the 959) were / are mid engined, but the top end production cars are determinedly rear engined. If Cayman and 911 had equal engine and chassis development, would the Cayman still be runner up?
On a separate note, the first 981 I saw, I thought "nice looking 911"!
On a separate note, the first 981 I saw, I thought "nice looking 911"!
paralla said:
I wonder if one day we will look back and think of the 981 Cayman as the last naturally aspirated flat six Cayman in a similar way to a 993 being the last of the air cooled 911's.
I think that has already happened with the previous Cayman; the last truly analogue feeling sports car before the evolution of cars (of all brands) that have switched over the computer controlled everything! I certainly miss the analogue feel of my CR, and can only hope that some day, manufacturers can return that kind of feel. I suspect Porsche will, as whilst the latest 911 is outstanding, I think Porsche know they have taken the tech too far.There is a cohesion to the way this car goes down the road that is rare, if not unique in my experience. There are 911 fans who claim that the bigger car is still the better one to drive and that the Cayman remains its lieutenant, no matter what form it might take or how good it may be. But I am no longer one of these people.
The Cayman GTS feels connected and compact and responsive to your inputs – be that to its throttle, steering, brake pedal or gearlever, which slices quite beautifully up and down its six-speed gate – in a way that a 911 no longer does. The last time a regular 911 felt this alive, this keyed in to the part of one’s brain that revels in the simple art of driving, was a very long time ago.
Indeed, you need to look to some fairly special versions of the 911 to match the satisfaction that the GTS Cayman provides, to the second generation 996 GT3, perhaps, or the 997 GT3 RS, and more recently the current GT3. And this puts the Cayman GTS in very high company, and me right out on a limb among Porsche’s commentators, some of whom will take great offence at such heresy towards the sacred 911.
But, for me, that’s how extraordinarily good the Cayman GTS, with sports chassis, manual gearbox, carbon-ceramic brakes and sports seats, feels. Which is some statement, but then the Cayman GTS really is some car.
Steve Sutcliffe. Autocar
The Cayman GTS feels connected and compact and responsive to your inputs – be that to its throttle, steering, brake pedal or gearlever, which slices quite beautifully up and down its six-speed gate – in a way that a 911 no longer does. The last time a regular 911 felt this alive, this keyed in to the part of one’s brain that revels in the simple art of driving, was a very long time ago.
Indeed, you need to look to some fairly special versions of the 911 to match the satisfaction that the GTS Cayman provides, to the second generation 996 GT3, perhaps, or the 997 GT3 RS, and more recently the current GT3. And this puts the Cayman GTS in very high company, and me right out on a limb among Porsche’s commentators, some of whom will take great offence at such heresy towards the sacred 911.
But, for me, that’s how extraordinarily good the Cayman GTS, with sports chassis, manual gearbox, carbon-ceramic brakes and sports seats, feels. Which is some statement, but then the Cayman GTS really is some car.
Steve Sutcliffe. Autocar
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