981 Boxster/Cayman GTS should drop March 19th
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A few US dealers are blabbing and indicating orders can be placed on Thursday the 20th, despite the fact that the embargo doesn't lift until Wednesday the 19th. My own won't comment on it, but has indicated that they'll call me no later than Thursday (presumably so I can place my order -- I secured my place in line in September).
Mind you, Porsche rolled over the "model year" (at least in the US) on Monday, March 10th to 2015. The GTS is expected to officially debut in the metal next month at the Beijing Auto Show.
So yes, a Cayman with a slightly better P/W ratio than a base 991 911 Carrera. This is *not* meant to be the successor to the Boxster Spyder/Cayman R. That's separate, and I can't comment on it at the moment.
Mind you, Porsche rolled over the "model year" (at least in the US) on Monday, March 10th to 2015. The GTS is expected to officially debut in the metal next month at the Beijing Auto Show.
So yes, a Cayman with a slightly better P/W ratio than a base 991 911 Carrera. This is *not* meant to be the successor to the Boxster Spyder/Cayman R. That's separate, and I can't comment on it at the moment.
Edited by Goofnik on Sunday 16th March 19:40
Goofnik said:
This is *not* meant to be the successor to the Boxster Spyder/Cayman R. That's separate, and I can't comment on it at the moment.
Whoa whoa whoa whoaaaaa........just a cotton picking minute.Edited by Goofnik on Sunday 16th March 19:40
You can't just dangle that in front of us and leave it like that!
Zyp said:
Goofnik said:
This is *not* meant to be the successor to the Boxster Spyder/Cayman R. That's separate, and I can't comment on it at the moment.
Whoa whoa whoa whoaaaaa........just a cotton picking minute.Edited by Goofnik on Sunday 16th March 19:40
You can't just dangle that in front of us and leave it like that!
Edited by Trev450 on Monday 17th March 09:21
Trev450 said:
Yeah, spill dude.
Can't. Porsche has too many powertrain mules for it to be completely obvious at this point. I assume that the initial info is correct, but with all the powertrain mules in play I can't be certain just yet.Edited by Trev450 on Monday 17th March 09:21
Regardless, US dealers are still blabbing about the GTS dropping this week. Porsche again did configurator maintenance last night (presumably updates for new models), so it's all but certain. Besides, the original leak was correct in every detail on the Macan and 911 Targa, which is when the Boxster/Cayman GTS was leaked.
Goofnik said:
Trev450 said:
Yeah, spill dude.
Can't. Porsche has too many powertrain mules for it to be completely obvious at this point. I assume that the initial info is correct, but with all the powertrain mules in play I can't be certain just yet.Edited by Trev450 on Monday 17th March 09:21
Regardless, US dealers are still blabbing about the GTS dropping this week. Porsche again did configurator maintenance last night (presumably updates for new models), so it's all but certain. Besides, the original leak was correct in every detail on the Macan and 911 Targa, which is when the Boxster/Cayman GTS was leaked.
mrdemon said:
I don't think many people are asking about the GTS info, that will be out soon enough, we all want to know what Porsche plans are for a new R
This.Will make a difference as to whether I keep the Spyder after July or not.
If a 981 R/Spyder come available in 6-12 months time then I may keep mine until then.
Any longer and I'll probably have moved on.
as always thought any thing tasty will be at end of 981.1 lifecycle which most likely will be a 2016 model year starting next summer or perhaps later (if it happens?)which gives the gts a year on the market place.
there is always the possibility that the gts is the runout model before the 981.2(like the cayman sport/rs60 which proceeded the 987.2) and a spyder/r could be even further away ie 4 years
there is always the possibility that the gts is the runout model before the 981.2(like the cayman sport/rs60 which proceeded the 987.2) and a spyder/r could be even further away ie 4 years
mrdemon said:
has to be over 2 years away imo they won't take sales away from the GTS
18 to 24 months is correct. Think Geneva 2016. However, the GTS is not meant to compete with the R/Spyder. They are very different buyers. It's a shame. I would prefer the 981 Boxster Spyder (with carbon fiber buckets and no A/C), but I've simply grown impatient. I consider a Cayman GTS to be a very nice compromise considering I'm spec'ing it to be as hardcore as possible, though I expect the next Spyder to be a real looker.Porsche's GTS trim level = aero changes to visually differentiate the car, power kit, and popular options standard, all for a slight discount over spec'ing an identical S. This is how it is for the 911, Panamera and Cayenne.
Spyder/R = hardcore, lightweight car that tries to offer the best classic "driver's car" on the market. The Spyder/R has no competition in the market for its price, period. 911s are still more expensive, and are already blurring the sports car/GT car line a bit. Mind you, over 50% of Spyder/R buyers worldwide paid to remove the carbon fiber seats and to add much heavier, comfortable seats. The market for these cars is quite small, but that customer base exists, so Porsche will cater to it because it allows for the highest possible transaction prices for the Boxster/Cayman.
What I can say is that with the 981 in general, we are seeing the continuation of the Spyder/R in that Porsche has finally understood how this market is segmented, and that it does not cannibalize 911 sales. The GTS is the first mid-engine car to properly step on big brother 911's toes. The Spyder/R will continue this theme, where it will be knocking on the Carrera S's door. However, be prepared for what you'll have to spend this time around, as we'll see average transaction prices to be consistently in the $90,000 - $100,000 USD range.
Edited by Goofnik on Monday 17th March 16:45
Apologies, don't mean to be rude but (without revealing your sources) is this anything other than speculation on your part or do you have access to information that us humble UK Spyder owners don't?
After banging around the pot holes of the Lake District this weekend, roof up due to my wife in the passenger seat and the odd bit of rain, a GTS with PASM and a proper roof is quite appealing. If a new Spyder is 2 years away I'd be all the more tempted to be honest as the rarity value of the 987 would be killed by a 981 version.
Popular wisdom over here has always been that there will be no 981.1 Spyder at all and only a remote possibility of a runout special at the end of 981.2.
After banging around the pot holes of the Lake District this weekend, roof up due to my wife in the passenger seat and the odd bit of rain, a GTS with PASM and a proper roof is quite appealing. If a new Spyder is 2 years away I'd be all the more tempted to be honest as the rarity value of the 987 would be killed by a 981 version.
Popular wisdom over here has always been that there will be no 981.1 Spyder at all and only a remote possibility of a runout special at the end of 981.2.
"be honest as the rarity value of the 987 would be killed by a 981 version"
i doubt it as firstly if they build a new spyder they will make sure its a bigger sales success second time round unlike the 987 spyder and the mk1 version is always more sort after than a mk2 version of most specials and dont forget that electric steering
i doubt it as firstly if they build a new spyder they will make sure its a bigger sales success second time round unlike the 987 spyder and the mk1 version is always more sort after than a mk2 version of most specials and dont forget that electric steering
rob.kellock said:
Apologies, don't mean to be rude but (without revealing your sources) is this anything other than speculation on your part or do you have access to information that us humble UK Spyder owners don't?
Yes. I'd also like to not have security kick me out of race tracks in the future. I've a gift for getting a few manufacturers' engineers to run their mouths.rob.kellock said:
I'd be all the more tempted to be honest as the rarity value of the 987 would be killed by a 981 version. Popular wisdom over here has always been that there will be no 981.1 Spyder at all and only a remote possibility of a runout special at the end of 981.2.
Porsche has said from day one that the Boxster Spyder and Cayman R were not one-offs, and that they were new production models here to stay for the future.rob.kellock said:
After banging around the pot holes of the Lake District this weekend, roof up due to my wife in the passenger seat and the odd bit of rain, a GTS with PASM and a proper roof is quite appealing. If a new Spyder is 2 years away I'd be all the more tempted to be honest as the rarity value of the 987 would be killed by a 981 version.
After three and a half years with my Spyder, I was itching for a change too. Purchased a 13 plate 981 Boxster S with £12k of extras for less than the the asking price of the used Spyders currently up for sale at OPC's (did negotiate very hard and bought it in the middle of the bleakest part of winter). Prices seem to be firming up for 981's now, but currently I think the OPC Spyders just look over priced. Electric steering or not, I'm loving it. I've not regretted changing one bit. the spyder is a high price because of its unique body and rarity.of course you got a deal on a 981 as so many have been ordered by dealers and not customers so a lot of unsold stock same can be said for the 991.the gts will also be ordered/sold in volume so expect deals after 6-9 months of coming to the market which will devalue the 981s even more while the spyder remains firm
Edited by itsybitsy on Monday 17th March 23:35
If you cast your mind back over 3 years ago the OPC network couldn't give Spyders away. That's when I bought mine. They were a bargain then, but they most certainly aren't now. I loved my Spyder but there's a time when it is financially sound to move it on. When I considered the cost of a major service, warranty and 4 tyres by mid summer, it added up to £3500, which in my opinion was better spent on updating my car. I'm guessing that an exact replacement for mine would cost £58 to £60k by the middle of 2016, so I'm sure I'll achieve circa £35k when I sell at 3 years old. This means I'll have lost less than I would have if I'd bought a normal family car, for the pleasure of driving my Boxster for 30 months. Cheap motoring whichever way you look at it. Is it realistic to assume that anyone paying £42 to £44k for a near 4 year old Spyder today will lose more than me?
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