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I recently bought a 2005 987 Boxster 2.7 - front Discs and Pads need changing and was looking at Design911 who sell 'Brand equivalent' as well as 'Official Porsche' ones - can anybody tell me the difference ? I would naturally go Official Porsche but if I can save alot of money I might as well !
I did also look at Sebro discs - alot seem to use them but I know absolutely nothing about them.
Any advice is appreciated.
I did also look at Sebro discs - alot seem to use them but I know absolutely nothing about them.
Any advice is appreciated.
Porsche don't make discs.
Most people agree that Sebro are made in the same foundry.
Research from a dedicated owner:
Most people agree that Sebro are made in the same foundry.
Research from a dedicated owner:
Dedicated owner said:
OK, I spoke to a man at Sebro in Germany today. He confirmed that Sebro discs are NOT original equipment for Porsche and are only produced for aftermarket fitment, However, he stated that the discs are cast in the same foundry as the OE discs and was adamant you would not notice any difference in performance.
The above is exactly what the Zimmerman Engineer stated about their discs a while back.
My next port of call is ATE. I'll report back when I have made contact.
The above is exactly what the Zimmerman Engineer stated about their discs a while back.
My next port of call is ATE. I'll report back when I have made contact.
Dedicated owner said:
Zimmerman don't make the OE discs for the 993 although they do make them for some other Porsche models. I spoke with an Engineer at Zimmerman in Germany and he confirmed that this was the case. The Zimmerman aftermarket discs are made with material from the same foundry as the OE parts and are machined to the same specs. The early Zimmerman discs were prone to corrosion on the hub. The later ones have a more corrosion resistant paint in this area.
Irrespective of which discs you fit it's worth spraying the hub area with a calliper paint before fitting. This just keeps them looking good.
Personally, I would be happy fitting discs from any of the well known manufacturers like Zimmerman, ATE, Textar or sebro. Just look out for the ones being offered at the best price.
I also spoke with an Engineer at Textar. He confirmed that Textar make the OE pads. The only difference bewteen the OE and aftermarket Textar pads is the box.
Irrespective of which discs you fit it's worth spraying the hub area with a calliper paint before fitting. This just keeps them looking good.
Personally, I would be happy fitting discs from any of the well known manufacturers like Zimmerman, ATE, Textar or sebro. Just look out for the ones being offered at the best price.
I also spoke with an Engineer at Textar. He confirmed that Textar make the OE pads. The only difference bewteen the OE and aftermarket Textar pads is the box.
Thanks for that. I did read that the ones that our branded as being 'Porsche' (Not made by them I totally understand) have their hubs painted to avoid corrosion. Seems the Sebro ones dont. Anybody know if this matters really and if it does which ones are painted ?
Sorry if this a is a daft question - with all my other cars I have always just bought the recommended ones and fitted them - this time there seems too many options !!!!
Sorry if this a is a daft question - with all my other cars I have always just bought the recommended ones and fitted them - this time there seems too many options !!!!
dtriggs said:
Thanks for that. I did read that the ones that our branded as being 'Porsche' (Not made by them I totally understand) have their hubs painted to avoid corrosion. Seems the Sebro ones dont. Anybody know if this matters really and if it does which ones are painted ?
Sorry if this a is a daft question - with all my other cars I have always just bought the recommended ones and fitted them - this time there seems too many options !!!!
Sebro hubs are painted grey just like the Porsche originals.Sorry if this a is a daft question - with all my other cars I have always just bought the recommended ones and fitted them - this time there seems too many options !!!!
dtriggs said:
Thanks for that. I did read that the ones that our branded as being 'Porsche' (Not made by them I totally understand) have their hubs painted to avoid corrosion. Seems the Sebro ones dont. Anybody know if this matters really and if it does which ones are painted ?
AFAIK all Sebro now have painted hats. You'd best check with whoever you choose to supply.I fitted some a few years back, and they work very well (with Textars not in a Porsche box) at the end of the back straight at Goodwood.
boxsey said:
dtriggs said:
Thanks for that. I did read that the ones that our branded as being 'Porsche' (Not made by them I totally understand) have their hubs painted to avoid corrosion. Seems the Sebro ones dont. Anybody know if this matters really and if it does which ones are painted ?
Sorry if this a is a daft question - with all my other cars I have always just bought the recommended ones and fitted them - this time there seems too many options !!!!
Sebro hubs are painted grey just like the Porsche originals.Sorry if this a is a daft question - with all my other cars I have always just bought the recommended ones and fitted them - this time there seems too many options !!!!
Some genuine Merc discs come covered in this stuff rather than just the hats and the pads just clear the contact area. Definitely worth using discs with painted hats though whatever you decide otherwise they will grow an orange fur coat within a week and look crap.
Just got round to installing the discs and pads. The pagid pads they sent didn't have the holes for wear sensors. I prefer not to just get rid so could I drill small holes in the pads for the sensor or would that damage the integrity of the pad ?
(Appreciate they can be tucked out the way but my OCD doesn't feel happy with that !!)
(Appreciate they can be tucked out the way but my OCD doesn't feel happy with that !!)
Hi,I'd appreciate advice on this topic. My 987 Cayman S needs discs, pads and sensors all round.
The quotes so far are:
Opc. £1500
Porsche independent £999 with oe parts.
My trusted local fast fit: £750 for oe spec discs and pagid pads or £680 for pagid discs and pads fitted.
Or I can buy Mintex for circa £500 and fit them myself.
I'm capable of DIY, but I'm also lazy. Does anyone have experience of pagid road discs and pads?
Use circa 8000. Miles per year of fast road use....but I don't want anything track orientated that has high wear.
I've dismissed the OPC option due to the outrageous mark up for a simple fitting job....and I've hardly found the OE discs to be super durable (worn at 30k miles ). I'm leaning towards Pagid or Mintex but would appreciate a steer from experts here.....
The quotes so far are:
Opc. £1500
Porsche independent £999 with oe parts.
My trusted local fast fit: £750 for oe spec discs and pagid pads or £680 for pagid discs and pads fitted.
Or I can buy Mintex for circa £500 and fit them myself.
I'm capable of DIY, but I'm also lazy. Does anyone have experience of pagid road discs and pads?
Use circa 8000. Miles per year of fast road use....but I don't want anything track orientated that has high wear.
I've dismissed the OPC option due to the outrageous mark up for a simple fitting job....and I've hardly found the OE discs to be super durable (worn at 30k miles ). I'm leaning towards Pagid or Mintex but would appreciate a steer from experts here.....
Are you sure it needs front AND rears. How many miles has it done?
I changed my fronts discs at 50k and the rears will be due at about 90k: generally discs last about the life of 2 sets of pads.
Someone will be along shortly to inform you that:
1. They only managed 10k on a set of discs because they drive REALLY fast and go on tracks and everything and they are special.
2. They managed to get 100k on a set of discs because they are an advanced driver and drive with a raw egg taped to each shoe sole.
I changed my fronts discs at 50k and the rears will be due at about 90k: generally discs last about the life of 2 sets of pads.
Someone will be along shortly to inform you that:
1. They only managed 10k on a set of discs because they drive REALLY fast and go on tracks and everything and they are special.
2. They managed to get 100k on a set of discs because they are an advanced driver and drive with a raw egg taped to each shoe sole.
DRH986 said:
A golden rule to help reduce the corrosion problem is to take the car out and get the brakes properly warmed up to dry them off immediately after washing the car.
This helps, but it doesn't alter the fact that Porsche fit crappy discs to start with that appear to rust quicker than a church collection box being passed around. Gassing Station | Boxster/Cayman | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff