Cayman R Chat

[freedman]

KittyLitter said:

mileage and spec info would help!

Manual, buckets, Spyders

33k
Full PSH
Porsche warranty

No AC,
No PSE
No Chrono

[KittyLitter]

freedman said:

KittyLitter said:

mileage and spec info would help!

Manual, buckets, Spyders

33k
Full PSH
Porsche warranty

No AC,
No PSE
No Chrono

No AC can be a showstopper, but the Yellow bonus offsets that perhaps.
Chrono can be retrofitted and a preferred approach by some as it avoids the silly clock on the dashboard.

I'd say £45K, but perhaps try £49K as someone could be jonesing for THE only yellow R in the UK, manual too.
The Viper Green PTS R (1 of only 1 in the world vs yours being the UK) went for a bit more if I recall.

[Andyoz]

KittyLitter said:

Andyoz said:

mileage and spec info would help!

Not my car, saw it on FB and always wondered when UK's speed yellow R would pop up

[KittyLitter]

Andyoz said:

KittyLitter said:

Andyoz said:

mileage and spec info would help!

Not my car, saw it on FB and always wondered when UK's speed yellow R would pop up

This is it from at the time. Unsure if being thrashed around puts folk off, or that this is actually more desirable than the VIper Green?

Though is it the only Yellow R? maybe the plates have changed since. Might be more than one out there.

[freedman]

KittyLitter said:

This is it from at the time. Unsure if being thrashed around puts folk off, or that this is actually more desirable than the VIper Green?

Though is it the only Yellow R? maybe the plates have changed since. Might be more than one out there.

It’s on a private plate, matching the current owners name

Edited by freedman on Tuesday 11th June 20:56

[KittyLitter]

freedman said:

It’s on a private plate, matching the current owners name

Edited by freedman on Tuesday 11th June 20:56

Ah I see, I only queried as your FB post itself question marks if it is 1 of 1.

[Jim1556]

KittyLitter said:

The Viper Green PTS R (1 of only 1 in the world vs yours being the UK) went for a bit more if I recall.

That lovely thing was up at 911Virgin for £55k at that time (I nearly bought it but had an unsuitable PX), I believe Budflicker on here bought it. It didn't last a few days on sale. Those times were slightly different though...

The yellow one above IMO will probably go for £40-45k, you'd have to really want yellow to pay more. No ac is an issue for some, as is no PSE (me included).

[KittyLitter]

Jim1556 said:

KittyLitter said:

The Viper Green PTS R (1 of only 1 in the world vs yours being the UK) went for a bit more if I recall.

That lovely thing was up at 911Virgin for £55k at that time (I nearly bought it but had an unsuitable PX), I believe Budflicker on here bought it. It didn't last a few days on sale. Those times were slightly different though...

The yellow one above IMO will probably go for £40-45k, you'd have to really want yellow to pay more. No ac is an issue for some, as is no PSE (me included).

Yep Budflicker sold it on about a year ago - was north of £60K but then came down to around low 50s - then again he might have kept hold of it as it was a slow one to sell.

Only needs two people desperately wanting a yellow R to push it to £49K+ but yep £45K is probably where its at.

[Porsche-worm]

Rumour has it the Viper car sold privately for £47k, that had all the bits like AC, sports chrono as well as lower miles so I'd say £42ish for the yellow car privately, trade will be about 35 to 37 tops I imagine.

These cars are hugely undervalued for how good they are.

[Ed.Neumann]

Porsche-worm said:

These cars are hugely undervalued for how good they are.

If they have been properly looked after, but at the end of the day they are now getting to the age where they could need £1000's spent on them and become a never ending restoration project like so many Porsche do as they hit this age.

I think they are priced about right when you consider the money that might need spending on them as they hit this age.

[freedman]

Ed.Neumann said:

If they have been properly looked after, but at the end of the day they are now getting to the age where they could need £1000's spent on them and become a never ending restoration project like so many Porsche do as they hit this age.

I think they are priced about right when you consider the money that might need spending on them as they hit this age.

You’re completely wrong about the restoration project but, these cars , looked after are still like new

They’re not like buying a 25 year old 996 that’s been neglected and only at 10k. They’ve generally kept enough value to see them bought by enthusiasts who look after them

[bigmowley]

freedman said:

Ed.Neumann said:

If they have been properly looked after, but at the end of the day they are now getting to the age where they could need £1000's spent on them and become a never ending restoration project like so many Porsche do as they hit this age.

I think they are priced about right when you consider the money that might need spending on them as they hit this age.

You’re completely wrong about the restoration project but, these cars , looked after are still like new

They’re not like buying a 25 year old 996 that’s been neglected and only at 10k. They’ve generally kept enough value to see them bought by enthusiasts who look after them

Like new is a bit strong! They certainly aren’t at 12 years old or so. My personal experience is of an immaculate 2 owner R, always garaged from new in a climate controlled garage and 20K miles up spread evenly over the 10 years or so. It needed an aircon radiator unit one year, common weakness, it needed a couple of PDK gearbox seals the next year. So not massive jobs but very typical.
The R platform is an extremely well engineered and fundamentally reliable one. There are a few known weaknesses, front coolant pipes for one, but parts are easily available, there is lots of expertise out there in the field and most jobs are well within the capability of a decent DIY’er. Any Cayman at 12 years old will benefit from a full suspension refresh, almost regardless of the mileage, bushes and dampers as a minimum. The electronics, engines and gearboxes are usually very solid. The interior isn’t bad either.
So deffo not a rolling restoration project, but not like new either. Just nicely in the middle. Not unlike the car itself really.

[911jon]

Ed.Neumann said:

If they have been properly looked after, but at the end of the day they are now getting to the age where they could need £1000's spent on them and become a never ending restoration project like so many Porsche do as they hit this age.

I think they are priced about right when you consider the money that might need spending on them as they hit this age.

I bought my first Porsche in 2001 when it was this age (13 years). I still have it.... spent very little on it until I did finally have it repainted in 2019 but the engine, gearbox and suspension are untouched... built like a tank!

The suspension does need new dampers and bushings now, but that's excusable at 36 years old.

[Ed.Neumann]

freedman said:

You’re completely wrong about the restoration project but, these cars , looked after are still like new

They’re not like buying a 25 year old 996 that’s been neglected and only at 10k. They’ve generally kept enough value to see them bought by enthusiasts who look after them

That was sort of my point, someone who has replaced what has been needed to be replaced to keep it like new will have a car that is like new, someone who hasn't could have a car that needs a few grand spending on it.
If it hasn't needed anything yet, best to be aware that doesn't mean it won't need anything doing over the next 10 years just because it is a £45k 997 and not a £15k 997.

Hence just think of them as an ongoing project to restore them back to factory fresh, and they are now hitting that age.

Anyone who has owned a 996 between the age of around 17 years old will tell you, and many didn't keep up what was needed, hence so many cars that need £5-10k spending on them now they are 20-25 years old.

997s are even worse for upkeep and hearing more and more 991's are worse again for ageing.


I'm wasn't saying these are a barn find restoration. Just that if you go in with the mindset that you are restoring a classic everytime you spend a bit more keep it like new it will make the upkeep costs a bit sweeter to swallow.

[KittyLitter]

a Reg 15 Cayman R. Never delivered and remained unused at the Porsche Stuttgart until 2015

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202312114...

[DRH986]

Some more pics of the yellow car when it was for sale a few years ago (assuming it is the same car). Around 2017/18 if I recall correctly.

https://www.top555.co.uk/stock/details/Porsche-Cay...

I think it was around £42k but took a long time to sell.

[KittyLitter]

DRH986 said:

Some more pics of the yellow car when it was for sale a few years ago (assuming it is the same car). Around 2017/18 if I recall correctly.

https://www.top555.co.uk/stock/details/Porsche-Cay...

I think it was around £42k but took a long time to sell.

Certainly looks lovely in yellow. Despite the summer weather this year I suspect the sale will suffer from the no AC syndrome.

[Buttocks]

KittyLitter said:

a Reg 15 Cayman R. Never delivered and remained unused at the Porsche Stuttgart until 2015

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202312114...

Wrong wheels and no red seatbelts. The other black on at £37k though looks good value to me considering what other limited Porsche you can get for that little money

[KittyLitter]

Buttocks said:

KittyLitter said:

a Reg 15 Cayman R. Never delivered and remained unused at the Porsche Stuttgart until 2015

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202312114...

Wrong wheels and no red seatbelts. The other black on at £37k though looks good value to me considering what other limited Porsche you can get for that little money

Far classier with the silver belts and door pulls in my opinion. Much more cohesive with the silver body accents - makes more sense than matching the brake callipers, for a black R that is….then again I am biased

[freedman]

KittyLitter said:

Far classier with the silver belts and door pulls in my opinion. Much more cohesive with the silver body accents - makes more sense than matching the brake callipers, for a black R that is….then again I am biased

No Spyders or buckets though