992.1 Carrera S v 992.2 Carrera (non-S)?
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Am looking to get back into a 911 having previously had 996, 997 & 991 Carrera S's. Probably looking to spend around £100k, ideally on one that is a couple of years old and that has done most of its depreciation - as now I'm retired, the opportunity for solo drives has (unfortunately!) diminished and so it probably won't get heavy use - I don't want to watch it stationary in the garage shedding its value week by week.
I suspect I know what the majority of any responses will be, but what does the forum think would be the better option? (there appear to be quite a few more non-S around than S).
Thanking you in anticipation
I suspect I know what the majority of any responses will be, but what does the forum think would be the better option? (there appear to be quite a few more non-S around than S).
Thanking you in anticipation
Pricing aside, the base and S models are actually very good for regular everyday use.
Any of them would have more than adequate performance, and the non-sports suspension is notably more compliant and quieter on UK roads.
One point to note is that only the 992.1 ‘S’ is available with the Manual gearbox, and that does make it feel more ‘911esque’.
Any of them would have more than adequate performance, and the non-sports suspension is notably more compliant and quieter on UK roads.
One point to note is that only the 992.1 ‘S’ is available with the Manual gearbox, and that does make it feel more ‘911esque’.
There’s a chap on here, Normalperson, who has owned a base 992 for several years - which has been refreshingly used as intended.
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
Speaks volumes for the simplicity, usability and enjoyability of the base model.
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
Speaks volumes for the simplicity, usability and enjoyability of the base model.
Is the original question not whether to choose a 992.1Carrera S over a 992.2 Carrera for the same money?
992.2 Carreras now start at just shy of £96k on the Porsche approved site. That's quite a strong saving on a new one, particularly as the hideous first year's RFL is avoided.
They are quite different cars to a 997 GTS!
My neighbour has a 992.1 S and it is a bit quieter and faster than my 992.1 Carrera T. Not by much though. The main differences inside the 992.2 seems to be a button to press to start it up instead of turning a switch and an electronic rev counter rather than an analogue one. The rest seems to be basically the same. Outside, all the front lights are contained in the headlights, the rear lights are full width and there are some new wheel designs which you may or may not like.
I guess the best answer depends on what your proposed use of the vehicle is. If you want manual gears, you'd have to get the 992.1 S, or a 992.2 T.
Neither car has stopped depreciating though, far from it. If I was buying now at that sort of price point, I'd probably choose the 992.2 although a pal just bought a lovely 992.1 GTS for similar money and that's a very nice car indeed. There's no right or wrong answer.
992.2 Carreras now start at just shy of £96k on the Porsche approved site. That's quite a strong saving on a new one, particularly as the hideous first year's RFL is avoided.
They are quite different cars to a 997 GTS!
My neighbour has a 992.1 S and it is a bit quieter and faster than my 992.1 Carrera T. Not by much though. The main differences inside the 992.2 seems to be a button to press to start it up instead of turning a switch and an electronic rev counter rather than an analogue one. The rest seems to be basically the same. Outside, all the front lights are contained in the headlights, the rear lights are full width and there are some new wheel designs which you may or may not like.
I guess the best answer depends on what your proposed use of the vehicle is. If you want manual gears, you'd have to get the 992.1 S, or a 992.2 T.
Neither car has stopped depreciating though, far from it. If I was buying now at that sort of price point, I'd probably choose the 992.2 although a pal just bought a lovely 992.1 GTS for similar money and that's a very nice car indeed. There's no right or wrong answer.
Thank you for all your advice. Food for thought...
On a different but related note. What am I missing on Slate grey Neo as a colour? I have been trawling the classifieds and have seen a couple of nicely specced cars in that colour - but the colour puts me off - it just looks like a paint primer to me - not even metallic... and as a >£3k option!
On a different but related note. What am I missing on Slate grey Neo as a colour? I have been trawling the classifieds and have seen a couple of nicely specced cars in that colour - but the colour puts me off - it just looks like a paint primer to me - not even metallic... and as a >£3k option!
Maybe consider buying a 992.1 from OPC for £70-75k? That will lose £20-25k over the next 3-4 years, if the world is still in one piece, where as a £100k 992 at £100k will be more like £30-40k.
The 992.2 makes more sense if you are PCP'ing it, getting a guaranteed buy back price and moving it on after 2-3 years.
If you are buying cash, and keeping it for a few years, you have far more choice, and to be honest, at that point I think I would be looking at a 991 GT3 Touring or even a GTS or Carrera T, something that is not loosing £10k a year, something that is a bit scarcer and will be more desirable in a few years time.
You can have full warranty on it till it is 15 years old, and by then you will know the car well.
Buying a nearly new, standard 911 for £100k is going to cost you £1000 a month overall, if you're not happy with that, have a rethink on what 911 to get, it can be done considerably cheaper with other models.
The 992.2 makes more sense if you are PCP'ing it, getting a guaranteed buy back price and moving it on after 2-3 years.
If you are buying cash, and keeping it for a few years, you have far more choice, and to be honest, at that point I think I would be looking at a 991 GT3 Touring or even a GTS or Carrera T, something that is not loosing £10k a year, something that is a bit scarcer and will be more desirable in a few years time.
You can have full warranty on it till it is 15 years old, and by then you will know the car well.
Buying a nearly new, standard 911 for £100k is going to cost you £1000 a month overall, if you're not happy with that, have a rethink on what 911 to get, it can be done considerably cheaper with other models.
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