New MPS5 "wet" tyre only from Manthey ?

New MPS5 "wet" tyre only from Manthey ?

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ChrisW.

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7,415 posts

267 months

Saturday 15th February
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This tyre has been in the mind of Michelin for a long time ...PS4S ... PS4 ... P5S ... and now PS5 ONLY for 992 GT3RS and only from Manthey ?

But how do the Pilot Supersport / MP4S and MP 5S truly compare ?

I can believe that a PS5 is 10 seconds faster on a lap that a Cup2 in cold and wet weather, but what does this really mean ?

There are a number of race series who use Uniroyal road tyres as their wets in place of group 1B semi-slicks such as Cup 2's ...

Is there anybody who can shed light on this ??

https://www.evo.co.uk/porsche/911-gt3-rs/207624/ne...

And Continental SportContact 7 ??

Nuttcase

516 posts

132 months

Saturday 15th February
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I can't comment specifically on performance, other than agreeing that comparing two tyres in conditions that are outside the optimum window for one tyre is hardly meaningful. It is yet another example of Porsche being very slow to homologate new high performance tyres for the 911. The PS S 5 has been out for nearly 2 years and is homologated for Mercedes, AM, Alpine and interestingly the Panamera (ND0) - I've seen them fitted to new showroom cars.

It was the same back in 2016/17 when they were still shodding 911s with the old PZero when the new PZ4 P Zero had already been out for a year and was homologated for the Audi R8 and the 982 well before the 911.

Some journalistic BS in that article or perhaps it was sarcasm and I'm just a bit slow. ".....it stands to reason, could make for the perfect British road tyre, too. Imagine scores of GT3s and other supercars across the UK, now able to be used in more conditions, for more of the time, thanks to the improved safety and performance of the Pilot Sport S5."

If that was true we could expect the average annual mileage on a GT3 to increase from 1,500 miles to maybe 3,000+ - better get those centre locks checked out asap. In any case, you can already fit Porsche approved Goodyear and Pirelli road-biased tyres to the GT3 - fitted as standard to the 992 Turbo (S)

ChrisW.

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7,415 posts

267 months

Saturday 15th February
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The answer is to fit the best of tyres irrespective of whether or not they are N rated.

It is no longer a condition of Porsche extended warranties that N rated tyres should be fitted ... but it is a problem if the tyres you want are not available in the sizes you need ... for example Continental SportContact 7's for my 991 GT3RS ... so I fitted PS4S for wet and winter and cold trackdays.

The question is, how much better are the new PS5's than alternative tyres in this category ? And why only from Manthey ??

High silica tyres have been around for years ...


TDT

5,791 posts

131 months

Saturday 15th February
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The full press release says that it is available from Manthey Tequipment via every Porsche Centre.

http://www.manthey-racing.com/michelin-pilot-sport...

Of course you’ll need a 992 3RS to take advantage anyway.

Tripe Bypass

597 posts

215 months

Saturday 15th February
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https://www.national.co.uk/tyres/brand/michelin/pi...

https://www.national.co.uk/tyres/brand/michelin/pi...

Same but different?

Edited by Tripe Bypass on Saturday 15th February 16:30

MannyLon

1,986 posts

218 months

Saturday 15th February
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ChrisW. said:
The answer is to fit the best of tyres irrespective of whether or not they are N rated.

It is no longer a condition of Porsche extended warranties that N rated tyres should be fitted ... but it is a problem if the tyres you want are not available in the sizes you need ... for example Continental SportContact 7's for my 991 GT3RS ... so I fitted PS4S for wet and winter and cold trackdays.

The question is, how much better are the new PS5's than alternative tyres in this category ? And why only from Manthey ??

High silica tyres have been around for years ...
I have heard of cases of insurance companies trying to deny claims as car did not have N tyres.

ChrisW.

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7,415 posts

267 months

Saturday 15th February
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Has that changed since Porsche changed their requirements ?

I guess it could be a problem if tyres of an unrecognised brand have been fitted ??

MannyLon

1,986 posts

218 months

Saturday 15th February
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ChrisW. said:
Has that changed since Porsche changed their requirements ?

I guess it could be a problem if tyres of an unrecognised brand have been fitted ??
Not sure how it stands now. I would double check to make sure with the insurer.

Slippydiff

15,316 posts

235 months

Saturday 15th February
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ChrisW. said:
Has that changed since Porsche changed their requirements ?

I guess it could be a problem if tyres of an unrecognised brand have been fitted ??
If they’re round and black, have at least the minimum legal tread depth AND just as importantly, the correct speed and load ratings, you’ll be fine Chris.


ChrisW.

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7,415 posts

267 months

Saturday 15th February
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Herewith my Cayman S on Pirelli Wets (road tyres) a long time ago ...



I really want to have a like for like comparison of the new MPS5 ...

mikeh501

788 posts

193 months

Saturday 15th February
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Looking on the Michelin website they don’t seem to be in many sizes as yet, mostly 21” etc. I’m sure they will open it up over the next year or so.

MDL111

7,396 posts

189 months

Sunday 16th February
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Slippydiff said:
ChrisW. said:
Has that changed since Porsche changed their requirements ?

I guess it could be a problem if tyres of an unrecognised brand have been fitted ??
If they’re round and black, have at least the minimum legal tread depth AND just as importantly, the correct speed and load ratings, you’ll be fine Chris.
out of curiosity - does the speed rating really matter, it clearly does not for winter tyres [obviously you can't crash above the speed that the tyre is rated for, then you are in violation]