992.2 GT3 or 296 GTB
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https://www.evo.co.uk/ferrari/296/gtb
Is this really at a 992.2GT3 price point ?
A McLaren Artura might be a better alternative ... given the discounts ?
https://www.evo.co.uk/mclaren/artura
Is this really at a 992.2GT3 price point ?
A McLaren Artura might be a better alternative ... given the discounts ?
https://www.evo.co.uk/mclaren/artura
kith said:
296 prices are in freefall as there are concerns over the reliability and longevity of the hybrid tech. Epic cars but I would think a GT3 would be more worry free, despite the extended Ferrari warranty.
FFSH and the battery gets replaced FOC at year 8, cars starting at £190k. ChrisW. said:
https://www.evo.co.uk/ferrari/296/gtb
Is this really at a 992.2GT3 price point ?
A McLaren Artura might be a better alternative ... given the discounts ?
https://www.evo.co.uk/mclaren/artura
Assume the OP was referring to a used 296, which in the Ferrari world can many anything with as little as 50 miles. Some very low mileage cars ~the £200k point. Is this really at a 992.2GT3 price point ?
A McLaren Artura might be a better alternative ... given the discounts ?
https://www.evo.co.uk/mclaren/artura
gt4rs.wp said:
kith said:
296 prices are in freefall as there are concerns over the reliability and longevity of the hybrid tech. Epic cars but I would think a GT3 would be more worry free, despite the extended Ferrari warranty.
FFSH and the battery gets replaced FOC at year 8, cars starting at £190k. 296 having already lost a shedload of ££ will inevitably continue to plummet price wise.
In contrast this latest GT3 will be relatively robust.
Depends how much money you are prepared to lose how long you want to keep the car and how much you want a relatively unpopular latest tech Ferrari over the latest and last NA GT3 Porsche.
In contrast this latest GT3 will be relatively robust.
Depends how much money you are prepared to lose how long you want to keep the car and how much you want a relatively unpopular latest tech Ferrari over the latest and last NA GT3 Porsche.
Cheib said:
They replace the battery free at Year 8 ? Wow ! Is that a new thing ? I have no idea/don’t follow the Ferrari market very closely.
You need to subscribe to the special Hybrid Warranty Extension for years 6 to 8. Couldn't find the UK prices, I'm guessing it's still too early in the ownership cycle to be concerned about it. It was quoted as $7,500 per annum in the USA.5 years OEM battery warranty in UK is pretty cr@p these days. I think it's 7 in the USA
I imagine the running costs for a 296 doing regular trackdays would be significantly more painful than with a GT3.
And if it's not going to be regularly tracked, it is really a GT3 competitor?
If I was looking for something fun/terrifying for road use I'd probably lean towards an F12 instead.
And if it's not going to be regularly tracked, it is really a GT3 competitor?
If I was looking for something fun/terrifying for road use I'd probably lean towards an F12 instead.
HundredthIdiot said:
I imagine the running costs for a 296 doing regular trackdays would be significantly more painful than with a GT3.
And if it's not going to be regularly tracked, it is really a GT3 competitor?
If I was looking for something fun/terrifying for road use I'd probably lean towards an F12 instead.
perfect summing up..And if it's not going to be regularly tracked, it is really a GT3 competitor?
If I was looking for something fun/terrifying for road use I'd probably lean towards an F12 instead.
What is shared experience about the reliability of running Ferraris? I've driven a few friends cars but never bought one myself.
I know that Porsche has suffered from some reliability issues in recent years, most recently the centre lock recall. And I also understand that the Ferrari's have included service plans and relatively long, extendable warranties. But it gets very testing to have to keep returning your car to the dealer for various miscellaneous gremlins to get sorted out. Even if the issues are covered by warranty: you want to have access to drive the car without it spending more time at the dealer.
So are gremlins expected with people telling you "what do you expect, its a Ferrari?" Or are modern Ferraris more or less on par with Porsche quality and control? And are the dealers super accommodating at sorting problems when they do occur and getting you back out on the road?
(On the Ferrari forums anyone saying anything critical about the brand gets shouted down and told "you'll ruin the resale value!")
I know that Porsche has suffered from some reliability issues in recent years, most recently the centre lock recall. And I also understand that the Ferrari's have included service plans and relatively long, extendable warranties. But it gets very testing to have to keep returning your car to the dealer for various miscellaneous gremlins to get sorted out. Even if the issues are covered by warranty: you want to have access to drive the car without it spending more time at the dealer.
So are gremlins expected with people telling you "what do you expect, its a Ferrari?" Or are modern Ferraris more or less on par with Porsche quality and control? And are the dealers super accommodating at sorting problems when they do occur and getting you back out on the road?
(On the Ferrari forums anyone saying anything critical about the brand gets shouted down and told "you'll ruin the resale value!")
XMA Simon said:
What is shared experience about the reliability of running Ferraris? I've driven a few friends cars but never bought one myself.
I know that Porsche has suffered from some reliability issues in recent years, most recently the centre lock recall. And I also understand that the Ferrari's have included service plans and relatively long, extendable warranties. But it gets very testing to have to keep returning your car to the dealer for various miscellaneous gremlins to get sorted out. Even if the issues are covered by warranty: you want to have access to drive the car without it spending more time at the dealer.
So are gremlins expected with people telling you "what do you expect, its a Ferrari?" Or are modern Ferraris more or less on par with Porsche quality and control? And are the dealers super accommodating at sorting problems when they do occur and getting you back out on the road?
(On the Ferrari forums anyone saying anything critical about the brand gets shouted down and told "you'll ruin the resale value!")
tbh the tide is going against ferrari quite a bit atm from owners for quite a few different reasons and there's a bit of a backlash - the next 10-15 years will be interesting for the brand.I know that Porsche has suffered from some reliability issues in recent years, most recently the centre lock recall. And I also understand that the Ferrari's have included service plans and relatively long, extendable warranties. But it gets very testing to have to keep returning your car to the dealer for various miscellaneous gremlins to get sorted out. Even if the issues are covered by warranty: you want to have access to drive the car without it spending more time at the dealer.
So are gremlins expected with people telling you "what do you expect, its a Ferrari?" Or are modern Ferraris more or less on par with Porsche quality and control? And are the dealers super accommodating at sorting problems when they do occur and getting you back out on the road?
(On the Ferrari forums anyone saying anything critical about the brand gets shouted down and told "you'll ruin the resale value!")
there are some issues with the cars in general but it's quite model dependent, the 296 is pot luck (some people have had zero problems, some have had huge issues etc)
there's still some magic there with ferrari but i'd personally go for an older car (458 onwards)
WCZ said:
tbh the tide is going against ferrari quite a bit atm from owners for quite a few different reasons and there's a bit of a backlash - the next 10-15 years will be interesting for the brand.
there are some issues with the cars in general but it's quite model dependent, the 296 is pot luck (some people have had zero problems, some have had huge issues etc)
there's still some magic there with ferrari but i'd personally go for an older car (458 onwards)
Pretty similar to Porsche, dealers will only sell you something interesting if you are in a bromance with the dealer principle.there are some issues with the cars in general but it's quite model dependent, the 296 is pot luck (some people have had zero problems, some have had huge issues etc)
there's still some magic there with ferrari but i'd personally go for an older car (458 onwards)
Les not miss taycans with faulty heat pumps, 992’s without properly glued in windows and many on extended recall for wheel nuts.
This thread got me thinking and I checked used 296 prices. Amazing how close they have come to 992 GT3 list prices. At face value it's much more car for the money. However, nothing beats a manual and NA revving to 9k in my book - and I have and still am struggling to picture myself stepping into or out of a Ferrari
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