992 GT3 Oil

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jkftype

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5 posts

1 month

Sunday 23rd June
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Hi Everyone

I'm aware that the 992 GT3 is recommended to have C40 oil, which used to be Mobil 1 ESP X3. This as recently changed as per the letter I got from Porsche and is now C40 GT.

The trouble is, I really need to get some oil for the car today in order to drive it early on Monday morning and I'm really struggling to find C40 locally. This is just for a top up, rather than a full oil change, as mine has hit the low level where you get the warning. Does anyone please know if there is a Shell or Castrol equivalent that you can get at a garage or Halfords that would be ok to put in the car?

Cheers

Yellow491

2,961 posts

122 months

Sunday 23rd June
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Just use the oil they have been using until oil change time,especially for just a top up,mine is still useing the original spec oil,so are many others.

jkftype

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Sunday 23rd June
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I'm aware that I can "just use the oil they have been using until oil change time" - but the point is I don't have any and can't get any today.

Is anyone aware of any other brands (e.g. Castrol/Shell) that would be suitable please?

scrounger73

273 posts

161 months

Sunday 23rd June
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Maybe someone who is relatively local to you has some oil you could have as long as you replace it.

Where in the UK are you?

jkftype

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Sunday 23rd June
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Thanks for the suggestion - I'm near Guildford, Surrey

ChrisW.

6,474 posts

258 months

Sunday 23rd June
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Doesn't your OPC have it ?

I recall that the C40 spec was the earlier oil for cars with particulate filters ... better to add a little (250ml max) and get the C40 GT than let it run too low ...

As an aside, the oil measurement on the GT3 is notoriously inconsistent and the handbook recommends adding in very small amounts, then bringing the car back to temperature and reading again ... Overfilling is worse than a little under.

jkftype

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Sunday 23rd June
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Thank you, luckily this issue has been resolved. I realised that my brother was close to Porsche Centre Mid Sussex (Burgess Hill) and long story short it turns out they had some of the C40 just on display inside the showroom. Amazing customer service from them, they kindly said I could have it for free.

I would still be interested in knowing if there are other brands that can be used other than Mobil 1. It's massively frustrating not being able to buy some at Halfords or at a Shell petrol station. I wouldn't mind if Porsche retail was available all weekend, but whatever centre you call, they always say you have to get it from their Parts department and "oh sorry that closed at 12pm and isn't open again until Monday".

What's an OPC please?

cuprabob

14,958 posts

217 months

Sunday 23rd June
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jkftype said:
What's an OPC please?
Official Porsche Centre

Schuey_911

820 posts

75 months

Sunday 23rd June
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jkftype

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Sunday 23rd June
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cuprabob said:
Official Porsche Centre
Ah ok - thank you.

They don't seem to be open on a Sunday anymore (at least the ones near me), and as above the parts department always shuts at 12pm on a Saturday. So no good if like me you find out you're low on oil on a Saturday afternoon. I got lucky with Burgess Hill. They told me they are normally shut on a Sunday but were open today due to an event.

Also just a follow up question if someone could please help. I have rather stupidly spilt a bit of oil when filling, a little bit (10ml maybe) went down the gap between the plastic and the adjacent cap (I think that's coolant). Is that a huge problem? I can't have been the first person to have done this, but still feeling pretty stupid as I did use a funnel before.

Cheers

G-996

140 posts

116 months

Monday 24th June
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There does seem to be a nationwide shortage of the Mobile 1 C40-spec oil. Opie Oils was the only place I could find that had some stock.

ChrisW.

6,474 posts

258 months

Monday 24th June
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The new oil is not just C40, it's a new standard C40 GT ... I'm not aware of the difference but Porsche suggest that it matters because they have even issued a supplement to the User Manual.

Their original advice was that any remaining C40 oil purchased before mid February '24 could be used until the C40 GT arrived. It's possible that this has been driven by a number of particulate filter failures ... particularly on cars where this includes the turbocharger and the replacement is therefore very expensive ... and a consumable so excluded from the warranty.

Nuttcase

417 posts

123 months

Monday 24th June
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ChrisW. said:
The new oil is not just C40, it's a new standard C40 GT ... I'm not aware of the difference but Porsche suggest that it matters because they have even issued a supplement to the User Manual.

Their original advice was that any remaining C40 oil purchased before mid February '24 could be used until the C40 GT arrived. It's possible that this has been driven by a number of particulate filter failures ... particularly on cars where this includes the turbocharger and the replacement is therefore very expensive ... and a consumable so excluded from the warranty.
I don't think GPF failures and any consequential turbo damage are a reason for the new C40 GT spec. Firstly, the GT spec is only for naturally aspirated GT engines (even the GT2 is not listed) and secondly the spec now applies to models well before the GPFs were introduced. Pure speculation on my part, but my best guess is the C40 GT spec has better wear protection at high rpms.

I would expect the SAPs level / GPF compatibility to be the same for both C40 and C40 GT.

C40 GT specified for :

• 911 GT3 (991 and newer)

• 911 GT3 Cup (991/992)

• 911 GT3 R (991/992)

• 911 GT3 RS (991 and newer)

• 911 RSR (991)

• 911 R (991)

• 911 Speedster (991)

• 911 S/T (992)

• 718 Cayman GT4 RS (982)

• 718 Cayman GT4 RS Clubsport (982)

• 718 Spyder RS (982)

ChrisW.

6,474 posts

258 months

Tuesday 25th June
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True --- it has been specified on my 991.2 GT3RS which is pre-GPF and the for which the User Manual specified the earlier Porsche A40 grade ...