Porsche 991.2 GT3 LC67 FYX for sale OPC Preston, help needed

Porsche 991.2 GT3 LC67 FYX for sale OPC Preston, help needed

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Royd555

Original Poster:

8 posts

173 months

Sunday 24th December 2023
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Hello All,
I am interested in buying the above car and would be interested to hear from anyone who may have any information on the above car.
I was told that one of the previous owners of this car uses PH often, and I hope that someone with previous knowledge will recognise the car. On asking the OPC, they have advised me that they have lost the service book for this car and are unable to provide details of the service history before 11,000 miles. Apparently, the service book was left in the car whilst in the showroom and seems to have gone astray.
The sales person who bought the car has confirmed to me that the book was with the car, fully stamped when taken in part exchange.
The problem arises when the OPC tells me that it is not possible to find the original selling dealership due to GDPR from Porsche UK.
As there have been 7 previous owners of this vehicle, it has proved difficult for them to track down any possibility of previous service history as they say this has not been able to be retreived from the Porsche dealer network computer system.
I am therefore, left with the option to buy the car with an incomplete service history other than one service at 11,000 miles in 2022, and another at 14,000 miles in 2023,
I am somewhat reluctant to buy the car even at a reduced price due to the 7 previous owners and lack of confirmed full service history.
Whilst I would still like to buy this car, as it meets most of my wants in specification and colour, I am somewhat concerned as to the provenance and the viability of reselling the car in the future with a partial service history if needed in future.
Any opinions and suggestions would be most greatly appreciated in helping me to come to a decision.
Thank you to everyone who can assist.

guyvert1

1,932 posts

247 months

Sunday 24th December 2023
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2023 top lurker award for sure ?

As for the car, I thought all the service history was now digital ?

TTmonkey

20,911 posts

252 months

Sunday 24th December 2023
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GDPR bks again. Porsche must have these records.


I don’t understand the worry about number of previous owners on a car in this country, it makes no difference.

Royd555

Original Poster:

8 posts

173 months

Sunday 24th December 2023
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Hi There,Sorry,not surewhat you mean by "top lurker",I am new to this forum! Yes, you are correct,ot is digital,but say one of the original owners got it serviced by an independant,for example,it would not show up on the Porsche system.I asked why the OPC could not find the original selling dealership,and was told that gdpr prevented this! I asked surely Porsche UK would know which dealership they sold it to when the car was new,only to be told,that as tbe OPc selling the car is a franchise, Porsche UK will not give the supplying dealearships identity due to gdpr.
Very strange.Therefore, the car is left with only a partial service history and a high number of previous owners,which makes me nervouls about buying it. Roy.

interstellar

3,706 posts

151 months

Sunday 24th December 2023
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He means you joined in 2010 as it says so on your account and has taken you 13 years for your first post.

Doddler

75 posts

159 months

Sunday 24th December 2023
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Simple, unless you're getting it for an absolute steal then walkaway. There will be other cars out there that will fit your spec/colour etc not worth the hassle of only having part service history imo.

Koln-RS

3,945 posts

217 months

Sunday 24th December 2023
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Agree.
Patchy history and mega-ownership (you’ll be number 8) must compromise the value, and will be an obstacle if/when you ever try to sell.

Wills2

23,886 posts

180 months

Sunday 24th December 2023
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No doubt they'd be able and want to check the service history if you wanted to put a warranty on a car, so quite why they aren't willing to do that is baffling you don't need to see anyone's details they just need to check if that VIN has been serviced and when.


short-shift

341 posts

184 months

Sunday 24th December 2023
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I've read (possibly on PH, I can't recall) of someone else walking away from a deal on this car because of gaps in the service history. I don't remember reading that the service history was missing, more that there were some gaps in it.

It all smells a bit odd to me. I cannot believe that Porsche Cars GB would not be able to provide the selling OPC with as much service history as there is, other than needing to keep private the 'personal information' (things such as name, address, contact details) of any previous owners.

I suspect that some of the background is not being revealed here for a good reason. Which is bad form by the OPC but doesn't necessarily mean that the car isn't a good one.

James

LastPoster

2,647 posts

188 months

Sunday 24th December 2023
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I bought my 991 from an OPC. The Service book was missing so the selling dealer obtained all the service records from Porsche UK, bought a new service book and sent it off to the two OPCs who had carried out previous services (4 in total) who stamped the book etc and it arrived with me a week or so after I had bought the car. The dealer already had a record of all servicing which I was given a copy of on collection. Getting an up to date service book was part of the agreement at purchase (proposed by them, not requested by me) and they were good to their word.

The car came with two years Porsche approved warranty so I'm happy all is legit.

The 'can't get the history' messages the OP is getting suggest either something fishy, or a dealer that isn't trying hard enough to me.

Royd555

Original Poster:

8 posts

173 months

Sunday 24th December 2023
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Hi again,Thankyou to everyone that has responded to my appeal for help.It pretty much confirms what I am thinking,that I am probably and reluctantly going to have to walk away from this car.The issue seems to be that the OPC cannot find any service history for the car prior to 11000 miles,in 2021.They therefore cannot produce a duplicate book for the car,as there is nothing on the system to replicate.They offered to stamp a new book for the service they have just carried out at 14k,and the one at 11k,but have no other information prior to this to update a new service book for the car.They also cannot stamp the book as the supplying dealer,and cannot find out the identity of the supplying dealer.
It would seem unlikely that the car had not been serviced within the Porsche network from new,and would not think that someone would use an indy for this! So,even if cheap,in conjuntion with 7 previuos owners,the risk is too great for me,sadly.Will have to save up and find another next year.Interestingly,the buying OPC do remember seeing the book,and confirmed verbally,it was up to date,but cannot remember the previous dealers who carried out the work,or indeed the original supplying OPC.However,they are now saying in their ad,it has a full dealer service history,which to my knowledge,is not correct.

GT4RS

4,573 posts

202 months

Sunday 24th December 2023
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If the porsche was serviced from new by any official Uk porsche centre it is a simple process for the selling opc to pull this information off the central database.

If they can’t do this, there is clearly an issue with the service history.

GT3ZZZ

948 posts

175 months

Sunday 24th December 2023
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Something not right about this.

Any OPC can access a Porsche's service history if it's been done in the network. You're being told some porkies here, no pun intended smile

Joscal

2,192 posts

205 months

Sunday 24th December 2023
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My 991.2 GT3 purchased in May was missing a stamp, I only noticed when I got home and I sent the book back and got it stamped. I also checked with my local OPC and it was all up to date just to be sure.

They should be able to at least confirm it’s been serviced, if not walk away as others have said!

Koln-RS

3,945 posts

217 months

Sunday 24th December 2023
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What comes up on V Check ?

https://www.vcheck.uk/

mikeh501

745 posts

186 months

Sunday 24th December 2023
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I nearly bought this car a few months back. Great spec and half Ppf. It became clear along the way that the OPC had lost the book. The sales chap (Arran?) rang every dealer in the south east with no luck. The problem is that whilst the stamp may have been in the book it wasn’t logged with the main Porsche computer so without the stamp to prove it, it may as well not have existed. The service will no doubt be on the dealers computer as a job sheet but without knowing which one your knackered. The car has been sold through main dealer 3 times so it must have had it, but that isn’t going to cut the mustard on trade in so I left it… and found a better car tbh.

I also spoke to the previous owner on Fb and he never checked the history as it was approved used. Good enough for him etc. I can also tell you it was sold/serviced through Sussex, Preston and Leeds but none of them tally with the timing ing service.

LemonTart

1,402 posts

139 months

Sunday 24th December 2023
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If it's on the system, it will be retrievable, if it's not it's fishy but if you are intending on keeping it a long time.. say 6 - 10 years bid them below the waist and have it maintained by a reputable indy and it shouldn't really matter when it's 10+ years old.

That's my opinion anyway.


interstellar

3,706 posts

151 months

Sunday 24th December 2023
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I am sure Porsche will supply a replacement book and stamp it up no problem. That’s not gdpr relevant for the opc to do it.

mikeh501

745 posts

186 months

Sunday 24th December 2023
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interstellar said:
I am sure Porsche will supply a replacement book and stamp it up no problem. That’s not gdpr relevant for the opc to do it.
They would if it’s on the central computer, but it isn’t. That’s the issue.

GT4RS

4,573 posts

202 months

Sunday 24th December 2023
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Sounds like this car could be heading for the auction blocks if it’s got a big gap in its service history.

It’s not as if they’re not choice out there nowadays.