997 Turbo vs. 991 Carerra S?
997 Turbo vs. 991 Carerra S?
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BERGS2

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2,826 posts

264 months

Thursday 1st June 2023
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Guys -

help me out here -

I'm still debating internally betwixt and old school brutal 3.6 Gen one 997 Turbo

or

an early-ish 991 with a nice spec

currenly headed towards the newer car, for everyday ease and lower running costs

but there is part of me that has always longed for a 911 turbo in black, and the potential to scratch that itch is also very strong.

Be interested in perspectives on the everyday usability of both.

Will be a weekend car for me - but my wifie will occasionally need to take it into the office (short commute, safe car park)

She is short and weak, and already moans about having to drive the (manual) boxster in traffic...

budget top end £50k

anything else to consider i may have overlooked?

Thanks y'all

IMI A

9,897 posts

217 months

Thursday 1st June 2023
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You should drive both I'd personally take the C2S if only one car but I'd want one of the very last 991.1 and a low owners, low mileage with ceramics if possible which is still under OPC warranty. If you have turbo itch you can not go wrong with that 911 Virgin turbo you were looking at either if you ask them for a 12 month warranty with the car which is the only thing I ask for when buying from 911 Virgin as cars are generally priced very fairly. You could swap after a year without losing any cash on the turbo they've priced it well. Same with a good spec 991 like this one if you can find one. Nice choice to have. They're so different you need to drive both really smile


nebpor

3,753 posts

251 months

Thursday 1st June 2023
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If you’ve always wanted a brutal 911 turbo I think you know the answer - the only thing I’d say is it might not be wife friendly. I daily my 996 turbo but my wife won’t drive it - thinks all the controls are too heavy. She previously drove out early 2.5 Boxster so I think your wife might find the same

However, she would get used to it!

Orangecurry

7,640 posts

222 months

Thursday 1st June 2023
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BERGS2 said:
currenly headed towards the newer car, for everyday ease and lower running costs

but there is part of me that has always longed for a 911 turbo in black, and the potential to scratch that itch is also very strong.
For heaven's sake man, you've answered your own question.

Buy the wife an old petrol Fiesta, and everybody wins.

cerb4.5lee

37,678 posts

196 months

Thursday 1st June 2023
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I'd also go in the direction of the 911 Turbo if I were in your shoes I reckon. The 911 Turbo is an icon for me. smokin

Quickmoose

5,050 posts

139 months

Thursday 1st June 2023
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...and also, once you've owned the turbo, it'll afford you the chance to get the C2S at a later date...
likely to hold its value a smidge better?

Moikey Fortune

1,652 posts

252 months

Thursday 1st June 2023
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Drive a 997.1 turbo...open the taps ..feel the acceleration as the turbos spin up...see the grin...pay the money

GTRene

19,278 posts

240 months

Thursday 1st June 2023
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looks like a nice 991 S, not a fan of auto, but I guess if you get used to it its almost ideal, also a 991 seems 'better' then a 997, its also faster on the Ring I believe.

saying all that, a 997.1 Turbo manual looks more interesting for the driver, for fun, for interacting with the car, more analog?

never driving the more modern Porsche's though (owned some older 930 and 964 ones), just also keeping an eye on some Turbo's with a manual, or the tuned versions say 600hp .1 models or the 500hp 997.2manuals (but more rare and expensive) or... the 997 GT2 with standard 530hp and manual, but, those come at a high price.

S600BSB

6,669 posts

122 months

Thursday 1st June 2023
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997 turbo for me.

BERGS2

Original Poster:

2,826 posts

264 months

Thursday 1st June 2023
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Thanks chaps - useful advice!

Hopefully seeing a trio of 997 turbos this weekend

Will let you know!

👍🏻

Moikey Fortune

1,652 posts

252 months

Thursday 1st June 2023
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Nice one!..you will have a good weekend👍

Did you see the low mileage manual one at Mortimers In Billingshurst?

Orangecurry

7,640 posts

222 months

Thursday 1st June 2023
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Moikey Fortune said:
Nice one!..you will have a good weekend??

Did you see the low mileage manual one at Mortimers In Billingshurst?
75 bags? ¡Ay, caramba!

Moikey Fortune

1,652 posts

252 months

Thursday 1st June 2023
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Get them while you can!

party

BERGS2

Original Poster:

2,826 posts

264 months

Thursday 1st June 2023
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Orangecurry said:
75 bags? ¡Ay, caramba!
Few quid over budget that one 😂

Any views on the 991 S?

Great sales vid here


WCZ

11,103 posts

210 months

Friday 2nd June 2023
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997 turbo every time between the two

David W.

1,943 posts

225 months

Friday 2nd June 2023
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Had a 997 turbo and swapped to a 991.1 C4S. Dropped 100hp and increased satisfaction from general character, noise and ability to press on without risking being locked up in 5 seconds from the get go.

Blowfish

299 posts

163 months

Friday 2nd June 2023
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997 turbo is much more of a special car than the normal 991 carrera.

You could easily daily a 997 turbo as they are great all rounders and really easy to live with. Plus service intervals are every two years and engines bulletproof (well my old 997.2 turbo s was)

Moikey Fortune

1,652 posts

252 months

Saturday 3rd June 2023
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Just taking mine for a drive....wonder how OP is doing with the test drives driving

BERGS2

Original Poster:

2,826 posts

264 months

Saturday 3rd June 2023
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Not so great -

The one at 911 Virgin went this morning frown

Saw a lovely Cab at Paul Devyea this morning, lovely condition and miles - had been 'driven by pussies' (direct quote) rofl, and had a full Porsche main dealer history to less than 60k miles

BUT its a cab.... getmecoat

RSJ had also sold the widebody carrera that i was planning to go and see... frown

Three more Turbos in the running - hoping to see two tomorrow hehe:

This one in Colchester higher on miles but its good condition and its a MANUAL

This one in Leicester slightly more dosh - nicer miles, milltech exhaush, interesting finish (red stitching), is a 1.5 so the later PCM (i think?)

Finally, this one in Birmingham again later year, modern nav unit - looks like a small trader who has it as his personal car..... don't know the implication of this?? (not been taxed since '21)





Lined up the first in Colchester early doors tomorrow and then going to see if i can squeeze in a drive up to Leicester and round to Brum to have a decent comparison.

or - I might just buy this one on a sight unseen basis... anyone seen this style of auction site before?

has a phenomenal level of detail online - but looks to be, missing the proof of early services from the documentation?

Any pointers on any of the above most welcome!

Cheers guys,

Bergs




IMI A

9,897 posts

217 months

Saturday 3rd June 2023
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I'd be buying the manual in a heart beat subject to a thorough PPI at good indy like 9e. Shame about 911v turbo they rarely come up in that condition.