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Aventador 700

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2,903 posts

37 months

Monday 10th April 2023
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Looking at an18k mile example which is pretty clean (as you would expect) but the servicing has been carried out every 4k miles rather than years (apart from age related brake fluid)

Would this effect its value by much, i must admit i’m looking at this as much as an investment as i am a useable car so future re-sale is important.

Eta: its a phase 1

Edited by Aventador 700 on Monday 10th April 10:30

Discombobulate

5,615 posts

202 months

Monday 10th April 2023
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So it's had 4 services in 20 years?

Aventador 700

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2,903 posts

37 months

Monday 10th April 2023
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Discombobulate said:
So it's had 4 services in 20 years?
In relation to the engine - 5
In total - 7

Think there are better at not much more money, which is a better move i think..

How sensitive are future buyers to the yearly schedule? ferrari, lambo etc i know, porsche not so much

Phil_Rob1

12 posts

120 months

Monday 10th April 2023
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Forget the future value.

Buy it because you want to use and enjoy it.

Aventador 700

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2,903 posts

37 months

Monday 10th April 2023
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Phil_Rob1 said:
Forget the future value.

Buy it because you want to use and enjoy it.
I intend to but it wont be that often as i have quite a few to chose from now, i tend to use the more modern stuff regularly and im adding more classics to the collection, hence the GT3 but all the classics will be future value considered.

Andyoz

2,920 posts

70 months

Monday 10th April 2023
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Sounds like you want an investment to me.

Discombobulate

5,615 posts

202 months

Monday 10th April 2023
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If as a pure investment a low mileage garage queen needs a perfect service history to attract top dollar from people who like that sort of car. They are very picky.

Yourmumsmum

21 posts

72 months

Monday 10th April 2023
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Service will be oil and other fluids, belts and plugs. Oil is several million years old already - advice I received from an excellent Porsche indie is that renewing on mileage rather than time is perfectly safe for an engine. If it’s otherwise a good car I wouldn’t worry about 4K oil changes regardless of time.

Discombobulate

5,615 posts

202 months

Monday 10th April 2023
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Yourmumsmum said:
Service will be oil and other fluids, belts and plugs. Oil is several million years old already - advice I received from an excellent Porsche indie is that renewing on mileage rather than time is perfectly safe for an engine. If it’s otherwise a good car I wouldn’t worry about 4K oil changes regardless of time.
Absolutely. But if selling to a picky garage queen type...

PGNSagaris

3,038 posts

182 months

Monday 10th April 2023
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Aventador 700 said:
Looking at an18k mile example which is pretty clean (as you would expect) but the servicing has been carried out every 4k miles rather than years (apart from age related brake fluid)

Would this effect its value by much, i must admit i’m looking at this as much as an investment as i am a useable car so future re-sale is important.

Eta: its a phase 1

Edited by Aventador 700 on Monday 10th April 10:30
I think if you own it for a good few years and service it every year going forward regardless of mileage, then no one would give a monkeys. I wouldn’t

Andyoz

2,920 posts

70 months

Monday 10th April 2023
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Discombobulate said:
Yourmumsmum said:
Service will be oil and other fluids, belts and plugs. Oil is several million years old already - advice I received from an excellent Porsche indie is that renewing on mileage rather than time is perfectly safe for an engine. If it’s otherwise a good car I wouldn’t worry about 4K oil changes regardless of time.
Absolutely. But if selling to a picky garage queen type...
Plenty of them in the Porsche space now.
Are they actually worse than Ferrari ones now smile

Phil_Rob1

12 posts

120 months

Monday 10th April 2023
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Would it bother me? Probably wouldn't even give it a seconds thought if it was a car I actually wanted, rather than something to speculate on...

I bounced the limiter a few times in the short trip I took in my 6.2 GT3 today. These are sensational drivers cars and are there to be driven.

NIgt3

627 posts

190 months

Monday 10th April 2023
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Absolutely no problem, as someone previously stated it’s been in the ground for thousands of years so hardly matters sitting a few years in a car not being driven, yes some buyers might me completely anal about it, but most not!

GT3Gooner

50 posts

136 months

Tuesday 11th April 2023
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Think I know the car, white by any chance?? If so, I was tempted last time it was up for sale but walked when the service history became clear. IIRC the services done was not by a recognised Porsche agent. However, I was looking to move from one GT3 into another so not so invested in the purchase as I already owned one of these great cars.

MDL111

7,953 posts

193 months

Tuesday 11th April 2023
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if future value is important, I would look for 996.1 CS.
Service history is more important in the UK than on the continent from my experience, but as others have said the fuller the better and I think the longer in the past missed services are the less relevant they become. Given the age of the cars, I doubt there are many with perfect service history nowadays.

Slippydiff

15,635 posts

239 months

Tuesday 11th April 2023
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NIgt3 said:
Absolutely no problem, as someone previously stated it’s been in the ground for thousands of years so hardly matters sitting a few years in a car not being driven
Whilst on the face of it, that may appear to be the case, the combustion process in an ICE produces some pretty nasty bi-products that aren't good for the engine.
All too often owners think they're doing the right thing by starting the engine every month and warming it through gently by leaving it idling for half an hour, when what they're actually doing is diluting the oil with excess fuel, creating condensation inside the engine and exhaust and producing lots of acid which is neither good for the engine or the exhaust system.

It's far better to change the oil before before storing a car and then not start it up during the storage period, or if you should decide to start it, take it for a decently long run that allows it to reach it's optimum operating temperature and remain there for at least 30 minutes.

Andyoz

2,920 posts

70 months

Tuesday 11th April 2023
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MDL111 said:
if future value is important, I would look for 996.1 CS.
Yes, they're the one to go for smile

Mumsn3t

189 posts

40 months

Tuesday 11th April 2023
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The "must be serviced even if it hasn't turned a wheel" attitude is bonkers. Why on earth would I expect someone to service a car that's done a few hundred miles a year? I wouldn't give it two thoughts.

This is an indication of where we are though in terms of speculation. I hope the market collapses and we have some sanity back in the market.

Phil_Rob1

12 posts

120 months

Wednesday 12th April 2023
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Mumsn3t said:
I hope the market collapses and we have some sanity back in the market.
Here's hoping. I might get that CGT after all.

Digga

43,614 posts

299 months

Wednesday 12th April 2023
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Slippydiff said:
All too often owners think they're doing the right thing by starting the engine every month and warming it through gently by leaving it idling for half an hour, when what they're actually doing is diluting the oil with excess fuel, creating condensation inside the engine and exhaust and producing lots of acid which is neither good for the engine or the exhaust system.
It's been explained to me several different times, in a couple of different ways, that Mezger engines do not want to be idled. It also says as much in the handbooks of both turbo and GT3 models. So I never do it.

Laying the things up for a long while also very often causes terminal failure of the RMS.

Assuming cars are 'okay' just because of low mileage is non necessarily correct.