Porsche Ice Experience Finland
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in doubt... I just booked it as there were only 2 places left ...
here is the link... can t wait !
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=porsche+ice+e...
here is the link... can t wait !
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=porsche+ice+e...
Have been doing this for quite a few years from Camp 4S upto Ice Force Pro. Was there at the beginning of Jan for Ice Force Pro and the cars and tracks were epic, especially the wooded stages. It is one of the best things you can do for car control.
Tuthill is good but on a lake - take a look at Tim Harvey instagram as he went a few weeks back and it was cancelled due to thickness of ice. The Porsche experience is 35mins outside Levi and on bog land that is a rally school in summer. They have water tankers that go out each evening to build up the ice which is why they moved from Rovanemi (lake) a few years ago. There is never an issue with the ice.
The only downside this year was all restaurants and bars were closed by 8pm due to covid restrictions.
Beware as it is highly addictive!
Tuthill is good but on a lake - take a look at Tim Harvey instagram as he went a few weeks back and it was cancelled due to thickness of ice. The Porsche experience is 35mins outside Levi and on bog land that is a rally school in summer. They have water tankers that go out each evening to build up the ice which is why they moved from Rovanemi (lake) a few years ago. There is never an issue with the ice.
The only downside this year was all restaurants and bars were closed by 8pm due to covid restrictions.
Beware as it is highly addictive!
Just finished two days at Tuthills. Sat now in the hotel at Are in Sweden. I can confirm it is absolutely epic. The amount of seat time is incredible, the cars are beautiful and so well prepared. We had almost perfect conditions, the lake is pristine at the moment and the weather was sunny and dry. It’s bloody expensive but worth every penny, I guess I might not think that if the weather was pants but I believe they work hard to make the best of everything whatever the conditions.
I have learnt some new skills and have a new found respect for ice drivers in general, it’s a great skill to learn but to master it is quite a challenge and I think it might need a few goes to get really proficient. I can see why it might be highly addictive.
I also appreciate the old school 911 much more than I did. We got to use 3 different cars spread over 2 days. They were immense and each had a very different character, and rewarded in different ways, a bit like a fine wine, not a single electronic aid in sight and some first class tuition as and when you wanted it. Bloody brilliant.
I have learnt some new skills and have a new found respect for ice drivers in general, it’s a great skill to learn but to master it is quite a challenge and I think it might need a few goes to get really proficient. I can see why it might be highly addictive.
I also appreciate the old school 911 much more than I did. We got to use 3 different cars spread over 2 days. They were immense and each had a very different character, and rewarded in different ways, a bit like a fine wine, not a single electronic aid in sight and some first class tuition as and when you wanted it. Bloody brilliant.
NS13 said:
Have been doing this for quite a few years from Camp 4S upto Ice Force Pro. Was there at the beginning of Jan for Ice Force Pro and the cars and tracks were epic, especially the wooded stages. It is one of the best things you can do for car control.
Tuthill is good but on a lake - take a look at Tim Harvey instagram as he went a few weeks back and it was cancelled due to thickness of ice. The Porsche experience is 35mins outside Levi and on bog land that is a rally school in summer. They have water tankers that go out each evening to build up the ice which is why they moved from Rovanemi (lake) a few years ago. There is never an issue with the ice.
The only downside this year was all restaurants and bars were closed by 8pm due to covid restrictions.
Beware as it is highly addictive!
Tim was just a bit unlucky with the weather, my arms nearly fell off the last time from so much seat time, infact i had tino in my forearms from all the hours,i will be there a week today and skidoo inbetween our two days with the cars.Its expensive but compare to driver tuition in this country and becomes a cheaper affair with great skills and confidence gained and of course great fun.Tuthill is good but on a lake - take a look at Tim Harvey instagram as he went a few weeks back and it was cancelled due to thickness of ice. The Porsche experience is 35mins outside Levi and on bog land that is a rally school in summer. They have water tankers that go out each evening to build up the ice which is why they moved from Rovanemi (lake) a few years ago. There is never an issue with the ice.
The only downside this year was all restaurants and bars were closed by 8pm due to covid restrictions.
Beware as it is highly addictive!
Go with BelowZero Ice (Tuthills). A few years since I did it, but went with a friend who had previously done Porsche experience and he much preferred BelowZero. Proper rally prepared, air-cooled 911s. One of the cars we drove was the one Stig Blomqvist used to win the Safari rally the year before. How cool is that!
skidskid said:
bigmowley said:
Just finished two days at Tuthills.
I've been looking at going but not sure if I will have anyone to rent a car with, did you rent with someone or go alone? Not sure I want 5 hours in one day but spread out over two would be great. 
We shared a car and had two days there. For us this worked out great. We spent a lot of time in the cars together alternating the driving and learning some of the tricks. I never felt short changed on the driving time. To be honest 20 mins at a time is plenty followed by a 20 min breather and then go again. The car never stopped moving during the driving time and we were actively encouraged to use it as much as possible. We were given 3 different cars to use: a 2.7RS, a 2.2L SWB 912, and a slightly later 3.0L car. The SWB car was a belter, really nimble and responsive, the 3.0L car much quicker but slower to react and hard to catch once you got it wrong. The 2.7 was on button studs which was great for learning the techniques at lower speed and grip level. The instructors are there as and when you need and want them. They also set us some lap times to chase once we got the hang of it.
I personally would struggle to drive flat out all day although some people would be fine. On our first day there was a group of 4 all with their own cars who were on their second day. They were all taking breaks from driving for coffee, chats, banter etc. so they were not hard at it all the time. On the second day it was just us two and a massive frozen lake, happy days.
The two day thing is more important in my experience as it gives you more chances with the weather which is very changeable. We were very lucky and had mainly lovely sunny days but once it clouded over and started to snow a bit it was much, much more difficult. Like skiing in flat light the corners are difficult to see and very tricky to get right, speed drops and visibility is dire out of the cars. Old 911s never had the best wipers anyway add some Snow at -12C and it is a challenge!
It’s eye wateringly expensive but worth every penny. A truly unique experience with the cars which were beautifully prepared, and totally reliable despite our best efforts.
I have not done any of the other similar experience days that use more modern cars, however for us it was the cars that were as big an attraction as the ice driving. Not a single electronic aid in sight just good old fashioned rear engine traction and tremendous pendulum effects, bloody brilliant.
bigmowley said:
I went with one of my lads. I am lucky that out of my 3 sons I landed up with one other car nut.
We shared a car and had two days there. For us this worked out great. We spent a lot of time in the cars together alternating the driving and learning some of the tricks. I never felt short changed on the driving time. To be honest 20 mins at a time is plenty followed by a 20 min breather and then go again. The car never stopped moving during the driving time and we were actively encouraged to use it as much as possible. We were given 3 different cars to use: a 2.7RS, a 2.2L SWB 912, and a slightly later 3.0L car. The SWB car was a belter, really nimble and responsive, the 3.0L car much quicker but slower to react and hard to catch once you got it wrong. The 2.7 was on button studs which was great for learning the techniques at lower speed and grip level. The instructors are there as and when you need and want them. They also set us some lap times to chase once we got the hang of it.
I personally would struggle to drive flat out all day although some people would be fine. On our first day there was a group of 4 all with their own cars who were on their second day. They were all taking breaks from driving for coffee, chats, banter etc. so they were not hard at it all the time. On the second day it was just us two and a massive frozen lake, happy days.
The two day thing is more important in my experience as it gives you more chances with the weather which is very changeable. We were very lucky and had mainly lovely sunny days but once it clouded over and started to snow a bit it was much, much more difficult. Like skiing in flat light the corners are difficult to see and very tricky to get right, speed drops and visibility is dire out of the cars. Old 911s never had the best wipers anyway add some Snow at -12C and it is a challenge!
It’s eye wateringly expensive but worth every penny. A truly unique experience with the cars which were beautifully prepared, and totally reliable despite our best efforts.
I have not done any of the other similar experience days that use more modern cars, however for us it was the cars that were as big an attraction as the ice driving. Not a single electronic aid in sight just good old fashioned rear engine traction and tremendous pendulum effects, bloody brilliant.
Thanks for the information. I've got in touch with them to see what my options are. We shared a car and had two days there. For us this worked out great. We spent a lot of time in the cars together alternating the driving and learning some of the tricks. I never felt short changed on the driving time. To be honest 20 mins at a time is plenty followed by a 20 min breather and then go again. The car never stopped moving during the driving time and we were actively encouraged to use it as much as possible. We were given 3 different cars to use: a 2.7RS, a 2.2L SWB 912, and a slightly later 3.0L car. The SWB car was a belter, really nimble and responsive, the 3.0L car much quicker but slower to react and hard to catch once you got it wrong. The 2.7 was on button studs which was great for learning the techniques at lower speed and grip level. The instructors are there as and when you need and want them. They also set us some lap times to chase once we got the hang of it.
I personally would struggle to drive flat out all day although some people would be fine. On our first day there was a group of 4 all with their own cars who were on their second day. They were all taking breaks from driving for coffee, chats, banter etc. so they were not hard at it all the time. On the second day it was just us two and a massive frozen lake, happy days.
The two day thing is more important in my experience as it gives you more chances with the weather which is very changeable. We were very lucky and had mainly lovely sunny days but once it clouded over and started to snow a bit it was much, much more difficult. Like skiing in flat light the corners are difficult to see and very tricky to get right, speed drops and visibility is dire out of the cars. Old 911s never had the best wipers anyway add some Snow at -12C and it is a challenge!
It’s eye wateringly expensive but worth every penny. A truly unique experience with the cars which were beautifully prepared, and totally reliable despite our best efforts.
I have not done any of the other similar experience days that use more modern cars, however for us it was the cars that were as big an attraction as the ice driving. Not a single electronic aid in sight just good old fashioned rear engine traction and tremendous pendulum effects, bloody brilliant.
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