Putting high miles on a 991 GT3 gen 2
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Currently in a manual C2S 991.2 and want to get a 991.2 GT3 in the coming year ideally. However I don’t want to use it as a weekend car only and would be putting about 10k a year on the car (I have a weekend car).
Most GT3s seem to put on about 4K a year ? Would that be about right?
Say the market softens a bit to 125k for a car at 10k miles . If I put on 20k over a couple of years any crystal ball stabs in the dark to what it would deprecated to? Just trying to get a feel for the overall cost.
Thanks !
Most GT3s seem to put on about 4K a year ? Would that be about right?
Say the market softens a bit to 125k for a car at 10k miles . If I put on 20k over a couple of years any crystal ball stabs in the dark to what it would deprecated to? Just trying to get a feel for the overall cost.
Thanks !
DomT87 said:
A bit less but not a lot less as long as it's otherwise in good condition. Is my guess.
My other answer is the usual, who cares, enjoy it!!
Just had my .2 3RS in for its first service (12k / 2 years). It's not even 18 months old. On on!
That’s generally my attitude with cars but I dontt have endless deep pockets so need to make sure I’m comfortable with the cost/mile to not sour the ownershipMy other answer is the usual, who cares, enjoy it!!
Just had my .2 3RS in for its first service (12k / 2 years). It's not even 18 months old. On on!
bosshog said:
Currently in a manual C2S 991.2 and want to get a 991.2 GT3 in the coming year ideally. However I don’t want to use it as a weekend car only and would be putting about 10k a year on the car (I have a weekend car).
Most GT3s seem to put on about 4K a year ? Would that be about right?
Say the market softens a bit to 125k for a car at 10k miles . If I put on 20k over a couple of years any crystal ball stabs in the dark to what it would deprecated to? Just trying to get a feel for the overall cost.
Thanks !
Your £125k car will be an early 17 reg fairly poverty spec non cs with quite a few owners indie selling comfort seats and steels even accounting for any market softening.Most GT3s seem to put on about 4K a year ? Would that be about right?
Say the market softens a bit to 125k for a car at 10k miles . If I put on 20k over a couple of years any crystal ball stabs in the dark to what it would deprecated to? Just trying to get a feel for the overall cost.
Thanks !
The price of a 7 year old gen 1s is a good guide. In fact there is a buyer of a decent spec gen 1 cs 13 63 plate indie seller with 26 k miles considering buying it at basic list i.e. £101k on the 'GT3 used prices rising thread' atm.
Equivalent OPC gen 1 cars even now approaching winter are selling around £110k.
So reckon on a 17 67 30k mile decent spec gen 2 to be min still £125k from an OPC in a couple of years. Prices will be supported by the much more expensive 992 of which there won't be many about even in a couple of years.
I think a GT3 is probably less mileage sensitive than.a normal 911. IIRC a 150k mile either 996 or 997.1 GT3 sold for about £50k a while ago…..I think it was about £20k less than a normal mileage/condition car. There are not many cars as capable as GT3 you can put 100k miles on for a £20k depreciation hit.
I think you’d have to put monster mileage on a 991.2 GT3 for it to be cheaper than a 991.1 GT3.
I think you’d have to put monster mileage on a 991.2 GT3 for it to be cheaper than a 991.1 GT3.
I bought mine with 4 owners on 2.6k miles. For the love of god I cannot think why them previous owners never enjoyed it.Its now up to just touching 11k miles.I said to myself , if I buy the car will it still be worth something in 4 years time being 2023 and maybe having 20k miles on it, I always said if I got 100k I would be happy.Looks like that is going to be no problem with big spec albeit with 6 owners.
If I could not sell it for sensible money, then it would be my swan song, and what a song the 991.2 will be for me.
991.2s with 16k miles have been making big money, pdk or manual with good spec.
If I could not sell it for sensible money, then it would be my swan song, and what a song the 991.2 will be for me.
991.2s with 16k miles have been making big money, pdk or manual with good spec.
bosshog said:
That’s generally my attitude with cars but I dontt have endless deep pockets so need to make sure I’m comfortable with the cost/mile to not sour the ownership
If this is the issue then maybe having another car to drive these 10k miles would make more sense. The GT3 isn’t really a road car anyway and would not be my choice to do 10k of mundane, traffic ridden miles in. There are certainly other cars they would do this better and would be a much cheaper ownership proposition. 
king drive it.Drl22 said:
If this is the issue then maybe having another car to drive these 10k miles would make more sense. The GT3 isn’t really a road car anyway and would not be my choice to do 10k of mundane, traffic ridden miles in. There are certainly other cars they would do this better and would be a much cheaper ownership proposition.
That would be exactly my sentiment.Had lots of 911s since the 80s, mostly new road cars, but also GTs and Classics.
Ordered a new 991.2 GT3 Touring in 2017 and assumed this would be the perfect modern, driver’s road car for me in the U.K. (I do half my annual miles in Europe where I keep another car, and I also use other, more interesting, transport).
However, the reality of using a GT3 in the U.K. was a big disappointment for me, and the novelty soon wore off.
Sure it’s got some sublime qualities, but you are only scratching the surface on the road, and more often you have to live with the compromises - tedious stop-start traffic, poor road maintenance, road roar from the tyres on the high noise asphalt they use here, constant road works, speed restrictions, variable weather and short days for half the year. Even the bucket seats became a bore, and the constant concern about where to leave it safely parked.
I’d rather have something like a Golf GTi/D/R for the everyday stuff.
Finding decent UK roads to experience the GT3 has never been a problem to me in the Northwest and the car is way more usable than most others even approaching the GT3s performance. Its nimble size and weight make any possible competitors distinctly lardy. Even the clutch on the 991.2 is light and then theres the option of PDK if you prefer. The beauty of the GT3 unlike other rapid cars is that it is driver focused and interactive at any speed including relatively low speeds and therein lies its charm as unlike other comparable cars you don't have to be 'on it' to fully enjoy it.
Unless you live in somewhere like London the UK still has great driving roads for cars like the GT3 if you are prepared to find them despite the ever increasing number of traffic cameras etc.
Unless you live in somewhere like London the UK still has great driving roads for cars like the GT3 if you are prepared to find them despite the ever increasing number of traffic cameras etc.
av185 said:
Finding decent UK roads to experience the GT3 has never been a problem to me in the Northwest and the car is way more usable than most others even approaching the GT3s performance. Its nimble size and weight make any possible competitors distinctly lardy. Even the clutch on the 991.2 is light and then theres the option of PDK if you prefer. The beauty of the GT3 unlike other rapid cars is that it is driver focused and interactive at any speed including relatively low speeds and therein lies its charm as unlike other comparable cars you don't have to be 'on it' to fully enjoy it.
Unless you live in somewhere like London the UK still has great driving roads for cars like the GT3 if you are prepared to find them despite the ever increasing number of traffic cameras etc.
This ,although honestly if I still lived in Manchester I would rarely use it .Unless you live in somewhere like London the UK still has great driving roads for cars like the GT3 if you are prepared to find them despite the ever increasing number of traffic cameras etc.
I moved to the cotswolds and every drive is fun ,a 5 mile trip to the gym becomes a 20 mile diversion ,I just like the way the car feels even at low speeds .
Geneve said:
That would be exactly my sentiment.
Had lots of 911s since the 80s, mostly new road cars, but also GTs and Classics.
Ordered a new 991.2 GT3 Touring in 2017 and assumed this would be the perfect modern, driver’s road car for me in the U.K. (I do half my annual miles in Europe where I keep another car, and I also use other, more interesting, transport).
However, the reality of using a GT3 in the U.K. was a big disappointment for me, and the novelty soon wore off.
Sure it’s got some sublime qualities, but you are only scratching the surface on the road, and more often you have to live with the compromises - tedious stop-start traffic, poor road maintenance, road roar from the tyres on the high noise asphalt they use here, constant road works, speed restrictions, variable weather and short days for half the year. Even the bucket seats became a bore, and the constant concern about where to leave it safely parked.
I’d rather have something like a Golf GTi/D/R for the everyday stuff.
I think you live in the wrong place :-) . I don't have to deal with any of that including commuting to work. The road surfaces isn't great (bumpy b-roads) but my friends GT3 handles them without a sweat.Had lots of 911s since the 80s, mostly new road cars, but also GTs and Classics.
Ordered a new 991.2 GT3 Touring in 2017 and assumed this would be the perfect modern, driver’s road car for me in the U.K. (I do half my annual miles in Europe where I keep another car, and I also use other, more interesting, transport).
However, the reality of using a GT3 in the U.K. was a big disappointment for me, and the novelty soon wore off.
Sure it’s got some sublime qualities, but you are only scratching the surface on the road, and more often you have to live with the compromises - tedious stop-start traffic, poor road maintenance, road roar from the tyres on the high noise asphalt they use here, constant road works, speed restrictions, variable weather and short days for half the year. Even the bucket seats became a bore, and the constant concern about where to leave it safely parked.
I’d rather have something like a Golf GTi/D/R for the everyday stuff.
franki68 said:
av185 said:
Finding decent UK roads to experience the GT3 has never been a problem to me in the Northwest and the car is way more usable than most others even approaching the GT3s performance. Its nimble size and weight make any possible competitors distinctly lardy. Even the clutch on the 991.2 is light and then theres the option of PDK if you prefer. The beauty of the GT3 unlike other rapid cars is that it is driver focused and interactive at any speed including relatively low speeds and therein lies its charm as unlike other comparable cars you don't have to be 'on it' to fully enjoy it.
Unless you live in somewhere like London the UK still has great driving roads for cars like the GT3 if you are prepared to find them despite the ever increasing number of traffic cameras etc.
This ,although honestly if I still lived in Manchester I would rarely use it .Unless you live in somewhere like London the UK still has great driving roads for cars like the GT3 if you are prepared to find them despite the ever increasing number of traffic cameras etc.
I moved to the cotswolds and every drive is fun ,a 5 mile trip to the gym becomes a 20 mile diversion ,I just like the way the car feels even at low speeds .
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