997.2 Turbo S decision
Discussion
Hi All
having sold my beloved 997.1 Turbo manual as i had put too many miles on her and enjoy using my cars.
I am hunting for a replacement to enjoy Love 991 Turbo S drive but i prefer the 997 shape
should i go for a 997.2 Turbo S ? Is it as good as the reports ? hows the PDK compared with PDK in 991
anything to look out for ?
also hoping 997.2 Turbo S will hold better than 991 ???
whats general thoughts on 'white' ?
any input welcome
having sold my beloved 997.1 Turbo manual as i had put too many miles on her and enjoy using my cars.
I am hunting for a replacement to enjoy Love 991 Turbo S drive but i prefer the 997 shape
should i go for a 997.2 Turbo S ? Is it as good as the reports ? hows the PDK compared with PDK in 991
anything to look out for ?
also hoping 997.2 Turbo S will hold better than 991 ???
whats general thoughts on 'white' ?
any input welcome
PDK is 10% better in the 991 generation compared to 997. Shifts that bit faster which means even more seamless torque delivery.
I think a 997.2 Turbo S might be good for residuals. However, it might also have a smaller buyer market come the time given it's a rare model and a comparatively high price. A 991 Turbo S will be an easy sell I'd have thought and will be the latest Turbo S for a year or so until the 992 Turbo comes out.
If speed is a factor I find the 991 a big step on. It seems a good 20% faster on the road despite only another 40bhp at peak.
I think a 997.2 Turbo S might be good for residuals. However, it might also have a smaller buyer market come the time given it's a rare model and a comparatively high price. A 991 Turbo S will be an easy sell I'd have thought and will be the latest Turbo S for a year or so until the 992 Turbo comes out.
If speed is a factor I find the 991 a big step on. It seems a good 20% faster on the road despite only another 40bhp at peak.
Went from a 997.1 Tip to a 997.2 Turbo S about 18 months ago, and don't regret it - even though a 991 was an option. If anything spending time with a 991.2 C2S recently reinforced the decision.
If anything PDK in the 991 is evolutionary, rather than a revolution, compared to the 997. There's not enough in it for me to take one over the other though. The difference in steering is more noticeable, as the electric steering in the 991 feels lighter than the mechanical in the 997.
I'm expecting residuals with the 997.2 to be better, as numbers were limited compared to the 991.1, as only approx 300 UK cars were produced. It was only produced in the final two years of 997 production, which coincided with a financial crisis, limiting the numbers available - in contrast the 991.1 Turbo S was available from day one. The one consideration though is prices jumped in the early part of last year on the 997, as I would have had to pay an additional £8-10k if I'd bought a few months later, but they seem to be settling again now..
The obvious advice would be drive both to see what you think..
If anything PDK in the 991 is evolutionary, rather than a revolution, compared to the 997. There's not enough in it for me to take one over the other though. The difference in steering is more noticeable, as the electric steering in the 991 feels lighter than the mechanical in the 997.
I'm expecting residuals with the 997.2 to be better, as numbers were limited compared to the 991.1, as only approx 300 UK cars were produced. It was only produced in the final two years of 997 production, which coincided with a financial crisis, limiting the numbers available - in contrast the 991.1 Turbo S was available from day one. The one consideration though is prices jumped in the early part of last year on the 997, as I would have had to pay an additional £8-10k if I'd bought a few months later, but they seem to be settling again now..
The obvious advice would be drive both to see what you think..
hoegaardenruls said:
Went from a 997.1 Tip to a 997.2 Turbo S about 18 months ago, and don't regret it - even though a 991 was an option. If anything spending time with a 991.2 C2S recently reinforced the decision.
If anything PDK in the 991 is evolutionary, rather than a revolution, compared to the 997. There's not enough in it for me to take one over the other though. The difference in steering is more noticeable, as the electric steering in the 991 feels lighter than the mechanical in the 997.
I'm expecting residuals with the 997.2 to be better, as numbers were limited compared to the 991.1, as only approx 300 UK cars were produced. It was only produced in the final two years of 997 production, which coincided with a financial crisis, limiting the numbers available - in contrast the 991.1 Turbo S was available from day one. The one consideration though is prices jumped in the early part of last year on the 997, as I would have had to pay an additional £8-10k if I'd bought a few months later, but they seem to be settling again now..
The obvious advice would be drive both to see what you think..
thanks very insightful advice i too am drawn to 997.2 because of steering which was a delight in 997.1 and not a massive fan of EPS, I too think '997 Turbo S' will hold firmer or creep up due to numbers and looks which i know is personalIf anything PDK in the 991 is evolutionary, rather than a revolution, compared to the 997. There's not enough in it for me to take one over the other though. The difference in steering is more noticeable, as the electric steering in the 991 feels lighter than the mechanical in the 997.
I'm expecting residuals with the 997.2 to be better, as numbers were limited compared to the 991.1, as only approx 300 UK cars were produced. It was only produced in the final two years of 997 production, which coincided with a financial crisis, limiting the numbers available - in contrast the 991.1 Turbo S was available from day one. The one consideration though is prices jumped in the early part of last year on the 997, as I would have had to pay an additional £8-10k if I'd bought a few months later, but they seem to be settling again now..
The obvious advice would be drive both to see what you think..
the only thing i am really unsure of is colour white has never been my thing but its growing on me and does seem popular
Interesting. I've got a gen 1.5 turbo manual and have been toying with selling it. Are you suggesting that I should hold onto it?
TBH, the only reason I've not sold it so far is the lukewarm response from the dealers I've spoken to. As a non-GT car they have all suggested that it's not really that interesting.
Do turbos really hold their value that well?
TBH, the only reason I've not sold it so far is the lukewarm response from the dealers I've spoken to. As a non-GT car they have all suggested that it's not really that interesting.
Do turbos really hold their value that well?
I'd agree with the PDK bit, the more modern units are much crisper. I have a 997.2 turbo PDK and we also have a Macan GTS. The Macan's PDK is super quick and smooth. Nothing wrong with the 997 PDK but you certainly can tell the difference.
If you go for a 997 I wouldn't worry about the power difference because slow it ain't! I've modded mine (look away purists) and it wasn't too difficult achieving >600hp with a full exhaust (decat) system and tune. As I said, plenty quick enough for me.
I bought mine nearly 3 years ago and according to the market it's gone up! Get in! I've been absolutely delighted with mine and honestly can't think what I'd prefer instead of it for similar cash. Good luck and enjoy the search....
If you go for a 997 I wouldn't worry about the power difference because slow it ain't! I've modded mine (look away purists) and it wasn't too difficult achieving >600hp with a full exhaust (decat) system and tune. As I said, plenty quick enough for me.
I bought mine nearly 3 years ago and according to the market it's gone up! Get in! I've been absolutely delighted with mine and honestly can't think what I'd prefer instead of it for similar cash. Good luck and enjoy the search....
gd said:
Interesting. I've got a gen 1.5 turbo manual and have been toying with selling it. Are you suggesting that I should hold onto it?
TBH, the only reason I've not sold it so far is the lukewarm response from the dealers I've spoken to. As a non-GT car they have all suggested that it's not really that interesting.
Do turbos really hold their value that well?
Ha ha, the dealers wouldn't be telling you that 'it's not really that interesting' if you were on their forecourt looking to buy one!TBH, the only reason I've not sold it so far is the lukewarm response from the dealers I've spoken to. As a non-GT car they have all suggested that it's not really that interesting.
Do turbos really hold their value that well?
Don't worry, you'll do ok with your 1.5.
gd said:
Interesting. I've got a gen 1.5 turbo manual and have been toying with selling it. Are you suggesting that I should hold onto it?
TBH, the only reason I've not sold it so far is the lukewarm response from the dealers I've spoken to. As a non-GT car they have all suggested that it's not really that interesting.
Do turbos really hold their value that well?
Very safe money, have you seen values today! TBH, the only reason I've not sold it so far is the lukewarm response from the dealers I've spoken to. As a non-GT car they have all suggested that it's not really that interesting.
Do turbos really hold their value that well?
Try dealers like RPM or 911V for cars like these.
I’ve had a new 911 every 2-3 years since the mid-80s, inc a 997 turbo S (pdk).
Thought it would be a great everyday road car, but I was ultimately disappointed.
Very fast, but in a rather clinical fashion, dull engine note, dominated by road noise. Always thought a 6-spd manual would have made it more involving.
Confirmed my preference for the character and power delivery of the NA engines.
Thought it would be a great everyday road car, but I was ultimately disappointed.
Very fast, but in a rather clinical fashion, dull engine note, dominated by road noise. Always thought a 6-spd manual would have made it more involving.
Confirmed my preference for the character and power delivery of the NA engines.
timsturbo said:
hoegaardenruls said:
Went from a 997.1 Tip to a 997.2 Turbo S about 18 months ago, and don't regret it - even though a 991 was an option. If anything spending time with a 991.2 C2S recently reinforced the decision.
If anything PDK in the 991 is evolutionary, rather than a revolution, compared to the 997. There's not enough in it for me to take one over the other though. The difference in steering is more noticeable, as the electric steering in the 991 feels lighter than the mechanical in the 997.
I'm expecting residuals with the 997.2 to be better, as numbers were limited compared to the 991.1, as only approx 300 UK cars were produced. It was only produced in the final two years of 997 production, which coincided with a financial crisis, limiting the numbers available - in contrast the 991.1 Turbo S was available from day one. The one consideration though is prices jumped in the early part of last year on the 997, as I would have had to pay an additional £8-10k if I'd bought a few months later, but they seem to be settling again now..
The obvious advice would be drive both to see what you think..
thanks very insightful advice i too am drawn to 997.2 because of steering which was a delight in 997.1 and not a massive fan of EPS, I too think '997 Turbo S' will hold firmer or creep up due to numbers and looks which i know is personalIf anything PDK in the 991 is evolutionary, rather than a revolution, compared to the 997. There's not enough in it for me to take one over the other though. The difference in steering is more noticeable, as the electric steering in the 991 feels lighter than the mechanical in the 997.
I'm expecting residuals with the 997.2 to be better, as numbers were limited compared to the 991.1, as only approx 300 UK cars were produced. It was only produced in the final two years of 997 production, which coincided with a financial crisis, limiting the numbers available - in contrast the 991.1 Turbo S was available from day one. The one consideration though is prices jumped in the early part of last year on the 997, as I would have had to pay an additional £8-10k if I'd bought a few months later, but they seem to be settling again now..
The obvious advice would be drive both to see what you think..
the only thing i am really unsure of is colour white has never been my thing but its growing on me and does seem popular
JZM have a white 997 1.5 Manual car at the moment https://www.jzmporsche.com/used-vehicle-details/Po...
Not a fan of the wheels nor white though loads of people love white!
I'd be holding out for 997.2 Turbo S personally if you can afford one.
Porsche911R said:
car which will hold best value is the Turbo manual 1.5 very rare over the others.
Best buy In the Turbo range imo.
If I wanted PDK it would have to be a 991 car, as I said above the PDK is night and day better over the 997 as is the performance.
+1 but no more than 10,000 miles for cars that may have investment potential. Shame is you can't drive them if you want a car which will fly in value.Best buy In the Turbo range imo.
If I wanted PDK it would have to be a 991 car, as I said above the PDK is night and day better over the 997 as is the performance.
If you're happy with PDK go for a standard 991.2 turbo. Some fabulous deals available on these. Similar money to a gen 1 991 turbo s and same performance if not more. Both 997.2 turbo s and 991 turbo in whichever guise more GT than sports GT like previous 996 turbo and 997.1 turbo. Personally think PDK ruins the experience.
DT398 said:
CrashBang said:
997.2 Turbo S manual 
If of course you can find one, super rare, which in Porsche world usually help residuals.
Doesn’t exist. If of course you can find one, super rare, which in Porsche world usually help residuals.
https://hexagonclassics.com/cars/porsche-911-997-2...
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