991.1 PDK or Manual?
991.1 PDK or Manual?
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Motorsport3

Original Poster:

567 posts

220 months

Monday 21st November 2016
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I am starting warming into the idea of having a 991 carrera at some point. Now the PDK was apparently improved over the 997 series but think that I would pref a manual tbh.

But what is the story of the 7-spead manuals?
What are the opinions for this gearbox? Is it to busy leaving with it? How come in the 'R' they went back to a 6-spead one?

Dr S

5,132 posts

254 months

Monday 21st November 2016
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In the vanilla 991 it is primarily a "manualised" version of the 7 speed PDK. The 6 speeder is a "proper" manual

Cheib

25,324 posts

203 months

Monday 21st November 2016
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When the GTS came out Chris Harris among others got their hands on a manual GTS which they felt was a better gearbox than the early manual 991.1's. Whether there were updates to the gearbox I have no idea but worth bearing in mind.

This is a great spec car although probably a tad expensive being at an OPC

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...


The_Doc

6,191 posts

248 months

Monday 21st November 2016
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Today, now on the UK Porsche Used Locator

194 Porsche 991s for sale across the UK

14 of which are manual

eg 7%

So the real problem is finding the right manual 991. They just sold so few.

I'm in a similar position having put 13k miles on my 997.1 manual and wanting another, younger manual

I just can't think of why I want a PDK, I don't want it.

The_Doc

6,191 posts

248 months

Monday 21st November 2016
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Porsche UK Locator:

65 997 cars for sale, 20 of which are manual. Although 7 of the 20 are 997GT3

savour your manual gearboxes, because in a flutter of a butterfly's wing, they will be no more.

Robograd

152 posts

150 months

Monday 21st November 2016
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Dr S is correct, the 991.1 manual is a PDK clone which, in its initial guise, i.e. 2012/13 it wasn't a particularly good gearbox. I'm a manual gearbox groupie but sold my, then new, 2012 991 after a very short period because the 'box diluted the ownership experience so completely, it had to go! Not only was the throw & feel dire, I found it way too easy to stick it into reverse gear, when going for first! Not ideal. Hopefully, a stronger detent solved that at some point on the development curve.

Considering Porsche's penchant for continuous development, I would assume later iterations are better. Indeed, 991.2 7-speed boxes are a quantum leap better cf my 2012 car. In my humble opinion - probably/possibly, due to further major development, & regarding gearing, the increased torque availability at lower revs?

Blue62

10,587 posts

180 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2016
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A veritable can of worms, but I owned a 991S with PDK, it's lightening quick but too much like playing a computer game for my liking, the car just lacked the X factor and I put it down to the gearbox though there will be plenty out there who will disagree and I would accept their points.

I am building a very expensive house at the moment so it will be a while until I pop into an OPC, but my next 991 (if the house build doesn't ruin me) will be a manual. HTH