996 GT3 Cargraphic exhaust - straight pipe or not?

996 GT3 Cargraphic exhaust - straight pipe or not?

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Spiritual_Beggar

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4,833 posts

209 months

Wednesday 16th July 2014
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Hi Guys & Gals,

I've a full Cargraphic exhaust system on my mk2 at the moment (manifolds and all), but have still got side silencers on.

The car sounds fantastic when pushing on above 5000rpm, but is still a bit muted lower down the range.

Looking into this has given me 2 options;

Replace the current Sports silencers for super sport silencers from Cargraphic.....or do away with the silencers and go for a straight pipe.

Has anyone here done away with the silencers on their car? I would like a bit more noise, but don't want it to drone! Is anyone familiar with the super sport silencers? Will I notice much different over the standard option from Cargraphic?

All opinions welcome. Thanks.

LongTimeGone

53 posts

171 months

Wednesday 16th July 2014
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I'd be interested to know thoughts on this also.

I have the Cargraphic R exhaust Full system on my 996 GT3 Mk2 with parr map to suit , 400 BHP on the dyno , up from 375 pre map

MrC986

3,680 posts

206 months

Wednesday 16th July 2014
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I took my silencers off my 996 3.4 Carrera that I had & the sound was almost too much for many (people stopped tailgating me on the Motorway it was that loud).You can get muffler bypass pipes easily though you will lose some low down torque as well. Mrs C said on a bad day she could hear me a good 5 minutes from home where we live & I did cringe (only very slightly!) when I started it up early on a Sunday to get it out of the man cave when I went out for a breakfast run with friends.

Edited by MrC986 on Wednesday 16th July 19:37

ArcticGT3

980 posts

227 months

Wednesday 16th July 2014
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I have the full r system (medium rear boxes) on my mk1, I wouldn't want it any louder TBH.

ArcticGT3

980 posts

227 months

Wednesday 16th July 2014
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I have the full r system (medium rear boxes) on my mk1, I wouldn't want it any louder TBH.

marky911

4,427 posts

234 months

Wednesday 16th July 2014
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MrC986 said:
I took my silencers off my 996 3.4 Carrera that I had & the sound was almost too much for many (people stopped tailgating me on the Motorway it was that loud).You can get muffler bypass pipes easily though you will lose some low down torque as well. Mrs C said on a bad day she could hear me a good 5 minutes from home where we live & I did cringe (only very slightly!) when I started it up early on a Sunday to get it out of the man cave when I went out for a breakfast run with friends.

Edited by MrC986 on Wednesday 16th July 19:37
Hi Chris.

Yep, my mate bought this car and it was TOO loud (no offence Chris, Craig did like it to be honest). It has some rear boxes on now, albeit very small ones and sounds more nine-eleveny again.

Don't do straight pipes OP. You actually lose the flat six sound and just end up with noise. I know what you mean though it's hard to get a nice loud burble at tickover with the GT3. Maybe that's just the Mezger.

Slippydiff

15,581 posts

238 months

Wednesday 16th July 2014
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marky911 said:
Hi Chris.

Yep, my mate bought this car and it was TOO loud (no offence Chris, Craig did like it to be honest). It has some rear boxes on now, albeit very small ones and sounds more nine-eleveny again.

Don't do straight pipes OP. You actually lose the flat six sound and just end up with noise. I know what you mean though it's hard to get a nice loud burble at tickover with the GT3. Maybe that's just the Mezger.
Evening Mark,

Burble at tickover ? Whilst it may not have had quite the drama of an F car, the Manthey exhaust along with the sucking noise of Cup air filter (which someone once described to me as being akin to the suck available from a $10 hooker) makes for a very convincing combination over stock.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mF4pCdsvBd8

biggrin


But you're right, the more silencing you remove from Mezger, the more chav like they sound. Or as you put it "just a noise".



dopsonj

315 posts

135 months

Wednesday 16th July 2014
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My 986 Boxster with a Fabspeed Race Exhaust fitted, 200cel cats tho..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPJ17Y7KLnY

But loud..

marky911

4,427 posts

234 months

Wednesday 16th July 2014
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Hi Henry,
Yep yours sounded great. I have the cup filter on mine, in it's original position though unlike the cup/Manthey cars. Still sounds good mind. Sounds like it could suck small children in. hehe

I altered my stainless boxes a few weeks ago and it's given mine a much deeper sound at lower revs which will do for now. I think the point I was making is that a GT3, with all it's mechanical noises in the background, will never sound like a 996 C4S with PSE.
As soon as you're on the move though all is forgiven eh. wink

Spiritual_Beggar

Original Poster:

4,833 posts

209 months

Thursday 17th July 2014
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Hi Guys,

Thanks for all the comments.

Don't get me wrong...LOVE the sound of the car...but it's just the way it sounds much louder once past a certain point in the rev range is like a flapper opening. Just wondering if that is an inherent character of all silencers or just the particular part that I've got installed. Will have to double check what part I've got.

The idea of a straight pipe wasn't really my preference because I was worried about the droning, and it just being too much 'noise', but wanted to hear other people's experiences with them as well, so thanks for the words of advice.

MrC986

3,680 posts

206 months

Thursday 17th July 2014
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marky911 said:
MrC986 said:
I took my silencers off my 996 3.4 Carrera that I had & the sound was almost too much for many (people stopped tailgating me on the Motorway it was that loud).You can get muffler bypass pipes easily though you will lose some low down torque as well. Mrs C said on a bad day she could hear me a good 5 minutes from home where we live & I did cringe (only very slightly!) when I started it up early on a Sunday to get it out of the man cave when I went out for a breakfast run with friends.

Edited by MrC986 on Wednesday 16th July 19:37
Hi Chris.

Yep, my mate bought this car and it was TOO loud (no offence Chris, Craig did like it to be honest). It has some rear boxes on now, albeit very small ones and sounds more nine-eleveny again.
In deed Mark, the little car had been spotted/photographed in its new habit sporting new exhausts. Your fast & furious comment meant the straight thru pipes from going home might only see them as short-term & it proves that one mans music is anothers racket biggrin

LanceRS

2,189 posts

152 months

Thursday 17th July 2014
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A friend of mine has straight through pipes on his 996 turbo, we were following about 100 yards behind and it was completely drowning out the chimera we were in! As mentioned above, loses the 911 sound, sounds more like a tank.
Might just be me getting old, he loves it.

Shane O'Neill

26 posts

228 months

Friday 18th July 2014
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I did this.
I like my cars loud but straight through was to be honest silly.
I also felt some mid range torque was lost as a result.
I wouldn't recommend it.
Shane