Anyone tried Pirelli Pzero Trofeo on their GT3?

[F40GT346]

I am currently running pzero corsas on my 997.1 GT3. I have found these excellent on road and track. I suspect they dont have the outright grip of the sport cups on a dry track, but since I also use the car on the road they seem to offer a good compromise.

The current set will need replacing and I was thinking of changing to the Trofeo or even Trofeo R. Has anyone used these on a GT3 or GT3 RS and can you compare them to the corsa or sport cup tyres? Would you recommend them for mixed road and track use?

[thegoose]

jackwood

[noneedtolift]

Hi, yes used them on my 997.1 GT3RS as they were the control tyre in my championship last year. Used to run the "old" Michelin Sport Cups before that.

My experience (on track):
- less "pointy" and more progressive than the Michelin
- about 1-2s faster than the "old" Sports Cup, depending on track
- seem to cope slightly better with standing water
- last slightly longer

I found them better then the Michelins, how they compare to the new Cup 2 (which is still cheaper than the Pirelli)I can't comment upon as I haven't tried them yet.

Edited by noneedtolift on Thursday 8th May 17:40

[Cunno]

noneedtolift said:

Hi, yes used them on my 997.1 GT3RS as they were the control tyre in my championship last year. Used to run the "old" Michelin Sport Cups before that.

My experience (on track):
- less "pointy" and more progressive than the Michelin
- about 1-2s faster than the "old" Sports Cup, depending on track
- seem to cope slightly better with standing water
- last slightly longer

I found them better then the Michelins, how they compare to the new Cup 2 (which is still cheaper than the Pirelli)I can't comment upon as I haven't tried them yet.

Edited by noneedtolift on Thursday 8th May 17:40

^ what he said. Very good tyre but expensive. Just bought some cup 2s so will be able to compare against them shortly.

[Cunno]

noneedtolift said:

Hi, yes used them on my 997.1 GT3RS as they were the control tyre in my championship last year. Used to run the "old" Michelin Sport Cups before that.

My experience (on track):
- less "pointy" and more progressive than the Michelin
- about 1-2s faster than the "old" Sports Cup, depending on track
- seem to cope slightly better with standing water
- last slightly longer

I found them better then the Michelins, how they compare to the new Cup 2 (which is still cheaper than the Pirelli)I can't comment upon as I haven't tried them yet.

Edited by noneedtolift on Thursday 8th May 17:40

^ what he said. Very good tyre but expensive. Just bought some cup 2s so will be able to compare against them shortly.

[jackwood]

thegoose said:

jackwood

I've run two sets on my 996 GT3. Absolutely love them.
Like Cups they only come with 5mm of tread depth and the pattern is definitely biased towards dry conditions. Having said that I've used them in all conditions bar torrential rain and found them perfectly acceptable. Obviously they really shine on dry road and track.

I'm not sure where everyone is buying them from, but the last set I got worked out cheaper than Michelin Cups. Unless there is a big price hike for 19" fitment I don't understand where the price increase over Cups is coming from. It's certainly not what I found.

By the way, the Trofeo Rvis just the newer compound. Get that if you can.

Jack

[jackwood]

thegoose said:

jackwood

I've run two sets on my 996 GT3. Absolutely love them.
Like Cups they only come with 5mm of tread depth and the pattern is definitely biased towards dry conditions. Having said that I've used them in all conditions bar torrential rain and found them perfectly acceptable. Obviously they really shine on dry road and track.

I'm not sure where everyone is buying them from, but the last set I got worked out cheaper than Michelin Cups. Unless there is a big price hike for 19" fitment I don't understand where the price increase over Cups is coming from. It's certainly not what I found.

By the way, the Trofeo Rvis just the newer compound. Get that if you can.

Jack

[F40GT346]

Thanks for the responses. Sounds like they are worth trying out. I have found the corsas to be excellent but its always good to try something different!

[NBTBRV8]

I am running Continental ContiForceContact as a daily tyre and they are great.

[Dblue]

Couple of thousand in on a set of Michelin Pilot Supersports

Simply fantastic road tyre. So grippy, great feel, no issues in standing water

And wear levels that are a match for the old PS2s the car ran on. Imagine 10k min out of the rears, maybe double that from the fronts

Unless you run serious track mileage ( 50% of the miles or more) the Cup/Trofeo options are a vanity choice IMHO

[LaSource]

Cunno said:

noneedtolift said:

Hi, yes used them on my 997.1 GT3RS as they were the control tyre in my championship last year. Used to run the "old" Michelin Sport Cups before that.

My experience (on track):
- less "pointy" and more progressive than the Michelin
- about 1-2s faster than the "old" Sports Cup, depending on track
- seem to cope slightly better with standing water
- last slightly longer

I found them better then the Michelins, how they compare to the new Cup 2 (which is still cheaper than the Pirelli)I can't comment upon as I haven't tried them yet.

Edited by noneedtolift on Thursday 8th May 17:40

^ what he said. Very good tyre but expensive. Just bought some cup 2s so will be able to compare against them shortly.

Hi Cunno - any feedback on the Cup 2s?

I see they are becoming available in 18" fitment for 996 GT3s. Trying to toss up between Cup 2s and Trofeo Rs.
A number of US / Fezza sites seem to suggest that the Trofeo Rs are a faster tyre than the Cup 2s.
Also concious that Cup 2s are being put on as standard fitment for a number of cars for general road use (e.g. 991 GT3, Merc SLS, etc) and therefore may need to be a bit more safe?

Thanks.

[Cunno]

Well cup 2s are amazing in the wet compared to cups, so much more grip it was like I was driving a different track to the gents on cup tyres, and no heart stopping moments on the drive home after a very wet Silverstone TD.

Only done 1 TD at Anglessy in the dry on the cup 2s and matched the time I did last year on the Pirelli Trofeo without really setting up the suspension for the day. To much fooling around upsetting GTR owners. So IMO I would go with the Cup 2 as they are cheaper, easier to get hold of, much better than any TD tyre I've used in the wet and equal to or better than Trofeo in the dry.

Jon

[LaSource]

Cunno said:

Well cup 2s are amazing in the wet compared to cups, so much more grip it was like I was driving a different track to the gents on cup tyres, and no heart stopping moments on the drive home after a very wet Silverstone TD.

Only done 1 TD at Anglessy in the dry on the cup 2s and matched the time I did last year on the Pirelli Trofeo without really setting up the suspension for the day. To much fooling around upsetting GTR owners. So IMO I would go with the Cup 2 as they are cheaper, easier to get hold of, much better than any TD tyre I've used in the wet and equal to or better than Trofeo in the dry.

Jon

Thanks Jon.

I already have a set of rims with Yoko AD08s which also perform very well in the wet as well as a general all rounder. Therefore I am primarily interested in the best dry use tyre for the other set of rims. I assume your experience has been with Trofeo as opposed to Trofeo Rs.

(The old PS Cups are also quite cheap at the moment, however, probably last for a lesser time frame. Plus I suspect future availability may be low once current batches run out)

Nonetheless some good references from your experience. I'll look into availability.

Cheers.

[Cunno]

No I had R tyres. I don't think you'll be disappointed with the cup 2s in the dry, they are a step up from the cups, plus wear seems very good too. Yes your right there are some very good offers on the old cup tyres at the moment.

[F40GT346]

The old cups seemed alot more expensive than the Corsas when I last bought some. Are the Cup 2s cheaper than Corsas or Trofeos?

[LaSource]

F40GT346 said:

The old cups seemed alot more expensive than the Corsas when I last bought some. Are the Cup 2s cheaper than Corsas or Trofeos?

Cup 2s about the same price as Trofeos for a set.
Cup 1s are almost £200 cheaper for the set

[Liquid1]

I'm on my second set of Trofeo Rs. Amazing tyres, just grip grip grip. They do need heat in them to work properly and pressure needs to be around 30. But beware, that grip means quite a bit of tyre is left behind on the tarmac. Fronts lasted 3700kms, rears 3000kms.

Might be overkill if you use your car on the street and your car will lose a lot of its playful adjustability at sane road speeds.

[JarmoL]

Anyone heard anything when/if 18" sizes will be available?

[keep it lit]

JarmoL said:

Anyone heard anything when/if 18" sizes will be available?

Already available mate

[PJI]

keep it lit said:

JarmoL said:

Anyone heard anything when/if 18" sizes will be available?

Already available mate

Are you sure? - tried everywhere for 18's but without success, the Michelin site doesn't even show them.