997.1 GT3 RS car tax.....
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Just noticed that this is now 490 quid, that's an outrage! It worries me that they'll keep incrementally adding to this until it one day makes no sense to tax them at all for us guys. And the worst bit is, what's it all for? They'll end up with less road tax revenues, less fuel spend and it will make sod all difference to the environment. Another example of the governments nonsense!
It is worrying because if they do keep hiking it up, there's no doubt it will limit the number of potential buyers particularly when prices between Gen 1 and 2's close up.
The RFL on my Gen 1 Cayman S is now £475 a year and that's on a car with significant less value than a GT3.
What makes a mockery of this so called 'polution levy' is cars prior to 2006 having the cost of their RFL pinned. My track Evo for example, is registered 2000, is running in excess of 400 bhp, de cated, and yet is £225 a year!.
The RFL on my Gen 1 Cayman S is now £475 a year and that's on a car with significant less value than a GT3.
What makes a mockery of this so called 'polution levy' is cars prior to 2006 having the cost of their RFL pinned. My track Evo for example, is registered 2000, is running in excess of 400 bhp, de cated, and yet is £225 a year!.
Interestingly the P1 is at £225 per year and by all accounts the Porsche 918 RFL is £0!! Infact, if you were to buy a 918 in the States you could even get a $3,667 federal tax refund for being so kind to the environment 
Basically, the current system is beginning to go quite badly wrong. (Unsure how good it was to begin with though.)
Basically, the current system is beginning to go quite badly wrong. (Unsure how good it was to begin with though.)
Add it to petrol, the current system is flawed.
Some of these cars are owned as toys and do 2k pa miles, to pay £500 on tax kills resale on the lesser makes like a z4m and older caymans etc.
Like wise my dad at 83 needs a car to buy food and does 2 miles one a week !!! Why should he pay ?
I cannot stand paying the high tax so tend to pick cars which are under 225co2
When you own 3 cars the money adds up.
You will get people saying if you can afford the car what's £500 but to me on 3 cars that's a lot of money.
Some of these cars are owned as toys and do 2k pa miles, to pay £500 on tax kills resale on the lesser makes like a z4m and older caymans etc.
Like wise my dad at 83 needs a car to buy food and does 2 miles one a week !!! Why should he pay ?
I cannot stand paying the high tax so tend to pick cars which are under 225co2
When you own 3 cars the money adds up.
You will get people saying if you can afford the car what's £500 but to me on 3 cars that's a lot of money.
They will never be able to add it to the price of fuel because of the haulage business and the fact that they have one of the biggest if not THE biggest lobby in government.
Whilst it makes perfect sense to us PH`ers and to car drivers in general ( effectively making the car tax / fuel pay as you go )the amount of miles an HGV clocks up and the fuel price it would then have to pay would make a huge difference to the cost of the business and then that would have a knock on effect of raising the cost of living - not what people want.
Personally I would love it to be put on fuel - the more miles you do the more you pay , cant say fairer than that BUT there is a much bigger picture that is very complicated / political.
Whilst it makes perfect sense to us PH`ers and to car drivers in general ( effectively making the car tax / fuel pay as you go )the amount of miles an HGV clocks up and the fuel price it would then have to pay would make a huge difference to the cost of the business and then that would have a knock on effect of raising the cost of living - not what people want.
Personally I would love it to be put on fuel - the more miles you do the more you pay , cant say fairer than that BUT there is a much bigger picture that is very complicated / political.
Far Cough said:
They will never be able to add it to the price of fuel because of the haulage business and the fact that they have one of the biggest if not THE biggest lobby in government.
Whilst it makes perfect sense to us PH`ers and to car drivers in general ( effectively making the car tax / fuel pay as you go )the amount of miles an HGV clocks up and the fuel price it would then have to pay would make a huge difference to the cost of the business and then that would have a knock on effect of raising the cost of living - not what people want.
Personally I would love it to be put on fuel - the more miles you do the more you pay , cant say fairer than that BUT there is a much bigger picture that is very complicated / political.
Certainly a bigger issue at play - government is trying to change behaviours around new car purchases by playing with the tax system.Whilst it makes perfect sense to us PH`ers and to car drivers in general ( effectively making the car tax / fuel pay as you go )the amount of miles an HGV clocks up and the fuel price it would then have to pay would make a huge difference to the cost of the business and then that would have a knock on effect of raising the cost of living - not what people want.
Personally I would love it to be put on fuel - the more miles you do the more you pay , cant say fairer than that BUT there is a much bigger picture that is very complicated / political.
It's only going to get worse so care needs to be taken when purchasing a post 2006 car.
997.1 GT3 RS a special thing and will hold its value but there are plenty of post 2006 cars that will get scrapped early die to rising RFL I fear...
It really does add up over a few cars and at the end of the day if it keeps getting higher then more cars will be declared SORN and they'll lose revenue on car tax and subsequent lack of petrol consumption, regressive taxation again.
They don't need to add more duty to fuel, they just need to stop spending so $$$$$$$$ much like the we do when we run out of money!
At 500 per car I am already questioning it
They don't need to add more duty to fuel, they just need to stop spending so $$$$$$$$ much like the we do when we run out of money!
At 500 per car I am already questioning it
Edited by pistolp on Sunday 2nd February 18:14
Rather than five figure priced Porsches a better demonstration of how silly it gets is something like a post 23/3/2006 Mazda RX8 at about 2 grand but £490 to tax!
When that's down to £1000 and the car's not used everyday it could be seen as a fair gamble to not bother - if you get stopped you might lose the car but there's a better than 50% chance you'll never get caught.
On a related note, tax discs will be obsolete by 2015 and it will also be possible to pay monthly for road tax. It looks like you'll still be agreeing to purchase 6 or 12 months tax though (effectively like entering into a credit agreement of some kind), so it's not like you could buy tax online each month that you actually decide to use the car (even though that would be fair).
When that's down to £1000 and the car's not used everyday it could be seen as a fair gamble to not bother - if you get stopped you might lose the car but there's a better than 50% chance you'll never get caught.
On a related note, tax discs will be obsolete by 2015 and it will also be possible to pay monthly for road tax. It looks like you'll still be agreeing to purchase 6 or 12 months tax though (effectively like entering into a credit agreement of some kind), so it's not like you could buy tax online each month that you actually decide to use the car (even though that would be fair).
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