GT3 prices going up
Discussion
ags11 said:
It’d be interesting to know if the rumours of the later cars having a more settled ride are true?
Has anyone any direct experience of this?
I cannot say for sure about the later cars having a better ride but with the 992`s there are 2 different tyre pressure settings and the one with more inflation definitely makes the car jiggle about. Dropped to the more normal lesser pressure and mine is fine. I`ve got a sneaky suspicion that when Harry Metcalfe test drove the 992 GT3 for his YT channel it was on the higher settings which produces a rather different experience when blasting down a bumpy B road !!!!Has anyone any direct experience of this?
‘Ride comfort’ can be very subjective .
But, from my experience of owning four GTs, inc a Touring, although it may be possible to achieve very subtle improvements with set-up, tyre choices and pressures, ceramic brakes, etc, this is fundamentally a track-biased car on the UK’s sub-standard roads.
So, always going to be a compromise.
Many people, inc Harry Metcalf, even find the 10mm lowered PASM suspension on the standard cars, such as the ‘T’ and ‘GTS’, tiresome on UK roads.
I do most of my mileage in France - in fact keep a 992 there - and the difference on well engineered, properly maintained, low noise asphalt roads, is immediately noticeable in any car.
Did meet a chap in the Eurotunnel with an ST and he said he’d had numerous performance Porsches, and the ST had the best ride composure (although still a bit noisy), which he felt was down to a combination of spec factors, inc non-RWS, and the lwt wheels and brakes.
But, from my experience of owning four GTs, inc a Touring, although it may be possible to achieve very subtle improvements with set-up, tyre choices and pressures, ceramic brakes, etc, this is fundamentally a track-biased car on the UK’s sub-standard roads.
So, always going to be a compromise.
Many people, inc Harry Metcalf, even find the 10mm lowered PASM suspension on the standard cars, such as the ‘T’ and ‘GTS’, tiresome on UK roads.
I do most of my mileage in France - in fact keep a 992 there - and the difference on well engineered, properly maintained, low noise asphalt roads, is immediately noticeable in any car.
Did meet a chap in the Eurotunnel with an ST and he said he’d had numerous performance Porsches, and the ST had the best ride composure (although still a bit noisy), which he felt was down to a combination of spec factors, inc non-RWS, and the lwt wheels and brakes.
Geneve said:
‘Ride comfort’ can be very subjective .
But, from my experience of owning four GTs, inc a Touring, although it may be possible to achieve very subtle improvements with set-up, tyre choices and pressures, ceramic brakes, etc, this is fundamentally a track-biased car on the UK’s sub-standard roads.
So, always going to be a compromise.
Many people, inc Harry Metcalf, even find the 10mm lowered PASM suspension on the standard cars, such as the ‘T’ and ‘GTS’, tiresome on UK roads.
I do most of my mileage in France - in fact keep a 992 there - and the difference on well engineered, properly maintained, low noise asphalt roads, is immediately noticeable in any car.
Did meet a chap in the Eurotunnel with an ST and he said he’d had numerous performance Porsches, and the ST had the best ride composure (although still a bit noisy), which he felt was down to a combination of spec factors, inc non-RWS, and the lwt wheels and brakes.
Your right of course it is subjective but most would be able to tell the difference between unruly behaviour and a firm or supple ride in this instance But, from my experience of owning four GTs, inc a Touring, although it may be possible to achieve very subtle improvements with set-up, tyre choices and pressures, ceramic brakes, etc, this is fundamentally a track-biased car on the UK’s sub-standard roads.
So, always going to be a compromise.
Many people, inc Harry Metcalf, even find the 10mm lowered PASM suspension on the standard cars, such as the ‘T’ and ‘GTS’, tiresome on UK roads.
I do most of my mileage in France - in fact keep a 992 there - and the difference on well engineered, properly maintained, low noise asphalt roads, is immediately noticeable in any car.
Did meet a chap in the Eurotunnel with an ST and he said he’d had numerous performance Porsches, and the ST had the best ride composure (although still a bit noisy), which he felt was down to a combination of spec factors, inc non-RWS, and the lwt wheels and brakes.
Does anyone know this car at Porsche Colchester:
https://finder.porsche.com/gb/en-GB/details/porsch...
I've had a sit in it for 20 mins or so and found the seats to be ok (unlike with the 918 buckets); and I otherwise like the spec. It would replace my GT4, which I've done 5,000 miles or so in since I bought it at the start of last year. I haven't driven the GT3 yet so still to be determined if I think it's worth the cost to change...
I have also just spotted this, which looks rather lovely, plus is a manual plus 18 way sofas (as per my GT4!):
https://finder.porsche.com/gb/en-GB/details/porsch...
Could cruise control be retrofitted by a dealer? EDIT: Although I've also just spotted the plastic dash. The other 991.2 GT3 that Colchester have in is the same, and I didn't like it at all.
https://finder.porsche.com/gb/en-GB/details/porsch...
I've had a sit in it for 20 mins or so and found the seats to be ok (unlike with the 918 buckets); and I otherwise like the spec. It would replace my GT4, which I've done 5,000 miles or so in since I bought it at the start of last year. I haven't driven the GT3 yet so still to be determined if I think it's worth the cost to change...
I have also just spotted this, which looks rather lovely, plus is a manual plus 18 way sofas (as per my GT4!):
https://finder.porsche.com/gb/en-GB/details/porsch...
Could cruise control be retrofitted by a dealer? EDIT: Although I've also just spotted the plastic dash. The other 991.2 GT3 that Colchester have in is the same, and I didn't like it at all.
Edited by gashead1105 on Friday 5th July 14:55
gashead1105 said:
Does anyone know this car at Porsche Colchester:
I've had a sit in it for 20 mins or so and found the seats to be ok (unlike with the 918 buckets);
The folding bucket is the best seat Porsche have offered since the Sports Plus seats they did in the 964. Why there isn't a current offering is such a shame I've had a sit in it for 20 mins or so and found the seats to be ok (unlike with the 918 buckets);
The folding buckets are great, i went out of my way to look for them tbh. Access to the rear for bags and coats makes all the diff to usability. I also found the 918 buckets give me lower back ache, ymmv.
I originally wanted a non CS car with 18 ways, but the CS with buckets is next level tbh. Prefer the carbon trim on the red one too, never liked that Ali trim like the black one has.
I originally wanted a non CS car with 18 ways, but the CS with buckets is next level tbh. Prefer the carbon trim on the red one too, never liked that Ali trim like the black one has.
mikeh501 said:
The folding buckets are great, i went out of my way to look for them tbh. Access to the rear for bags and coats makes all the diff to usability. I also found the 918 buckets give me lower back ache, ymmv.
I originally wanted a non CS car with 18 ways, but the CS with buckets is next level tbh. Prefer the carbon trim on the red one too, never liked that Ali trim like the black one has.
Yes the various bucket seats are extremely subjective. It’s definitely a case of try before buy and the practicality of folding buckets for access to rear seat area is unarguable.I originally wanted a non CS car with 18 ways, but the CS with buckets is next level tbh. Prefer the carbon trim on the red one too, never liked that Ali trim like the black one has.
I like the Carrera GT buckets and often drive 2+hrs in one go on Euro roads trips, but they are super narrow and not for everyone. Even I find the odd occasion where it tweeks my previously injured chest/shoulder, but on track, just love the feeling of being bolted into the chassis,
gashead1105 said:
https://finder.porsche.com/gb/en-GB/details/porsch...
Could cruise control be retrofitted by a dealer? EDIT: Although I've also just spotted the plastic dash. The other 991.2 GT3 that Colchester have in is the same, and I didn't like it at all.
Yeah the plastic dash isn’t great, and you miss the alcantara glove box too. What option was this when the car was new? Just flicking the brochure from back then and it’s not obvious. Could cruise control be retrofitted by a dealer? EDIT: Although I've also just spotted the plastic dash. The other 991.2 GT3 that Colchester have in is the same, and I didn't like it at all.
Edited by gashead1105 on Friday 5th July 14:55
gashead1105 said:
Does anyone know this car at Porsche Colchester:
https://finder.porsche.com/gb/en-GB/details/porsch...
I've had a sit in it for 20 mins or so and found the seats to be ok (unlike with the 918 buckets); and I otherwise like the spec. It would replace my GT4, which I've done 5,000 miles or so in since I bought it at the start of last year. I haven't driven the GT3 yet so still to be determined if I think it's worth the cost to change...
I have also just spotted this, which looks rather lovely, plus is a manual plus 18 way sofas (as per my GT4!):
https://finder.porsche.com/gb/en-GB/details/porsch...
Could cruise control be retrofitted by a dealer? EDIT: Although I've also just spotted the plastic dash. The other 991.2 GT3 that Colchester have in is the same, and I didn't like it at all.
Yes CC can easily and relitavely cheaply be retrofitted. Had it done in my 997.2 GT3RS. https://finder.porsche.com/gb/en-GB/details/porsch...
I've had a sit in it for 20 mins or so and found the seats to be ok (unlike with the 918 buckets); and I otherwise like the spec. It would replace my GT4, which I've done 5,000 miles or so in since I bought it at the start of last year. I haven't driven the GT3 yet so still to be determined if I think it's worth the cost to change...
I have also just spotted this, which looks rather lovely, plus is a manual plus 18 way sofas (as per my GT4!):
https://finder.porsche.com/gb/en-GB/details/porsch...
Could cruise control be retrofitted by a dealer? EDIT: Although I've also just spotted the plastic dash. The other 991.2 GT3 that Colchester have in is the same, and I didn't like it at all.
Edited by gashead1105 on Friday 5th July 14:55
Geneve said:
Many people, inc Harry Metcalf, even find the 10mm lowered PASM suspension on the standard cars, such as the ‘T’ and ‘GTS’, tiresome on UK roads.
I do most of my mileage in France - in fact keep a 992 there - and the difference on well engineered, properly maintained, low noise asphalt roads, is immediately noticeable in any car.
So true. My 991 T is a luxury cruiser - quiet, smooth-riding - on continental roads, especially in France and Germany. On the way home, you leave the Tunnel and hit the M20, and it's night and day different. Over here we're lousy at maintainng roads and don't even build them well in the first place.I do most of my mileage in France - in fact keep a 992 there - and the difference on well engineered, properly maintained, low noise asphalt roads, is immediately noticeable in any car.
Grantstown said:
The ‘plastic dash’ is a bit of a pistonheads classic. I’ve never really understood it as my 991.2 has a what appears to be a leather dash, despite being completely standard. It must be leatherette, but whatever it is, it’s miles better than what we see here in a GT3. Bonkers!
my 991.2 GT3 has a leather dash but for the life of me i've no idea what the option was when new. theres nothing in the brochure to denote.https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202404299...
Back over £200k for a low mileage example with ceramics.
Back over £200k for a low mileage example with ceramics.
mikeh501 said:
my 991.2 GT3 has a leather dash but for the life of me i've no idea what the option was when new. theres nothing in the brochure to denote.
Answered my own question after some googling and comparisons of cars with/without. That black car doesnt have 749 or 886 for steering red stripe. The approved site seems to call it Leather Interior with Alcantara®/Race-Tex or Standard Interior with Alcantara®/Race-Tex Seats.Option 749
Leather interior with stitching in red
Items in leather with decorative stitching in red: dashboard upper section including instrument cluster cover, upper section of door panels, upper section of rear side panels (not in conjunction with optional Clubsport package), door centre panels, door panel armrests, centre console main storage compartment lid armrest, door pulls and steering wheel rim. Additional items: seat centres with contrast stripes in red with ‘GT3’ logo (full bucket seats and Sports bucket seats) or headrests with embroidered ‘GT3’ logo in red (Sports seats Plus and adaptive Sports seats Plus) and transmission tunnel trim in rear with embroidered ‘GT3’ logos in red. Note: only available in conjunction with leather interior package in black
OPTIONCODE 749
hooneybadger said:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202404299...
Back over £200k for a low mileage example with ceramics.
That was on at 225k so dropped a bit. Lovely car!Back over £200k for a low mileage example with ceramics.
I think these are becoming incredible value now as I've been considering going back to NA for my next car after the 540. First time I've seen one at this price level from an OPC since I've been looking. The dash might put some off however...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202405079...
The yellow one at £123k looks to be better value as it's in a colour I prefer and it's got ceramics and full leather so I'll see if a deal can be done depending on cost to change
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202405169...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202405079...
The yellow one at £123k looks to be better value as it's in a colour I prefer and it's got ceramics and full leather so I'll see if a deal can be done depending on cost to change
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202405169...
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