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bennno said:
Oddly they sold rws as a desirable feature, but then didn’t offer it on the ST model which is the supposed pinnacle of a drivers 911.
Didn’t spec RWS on my T. Had to stop the T I was driving on my recent PEC to have a look if it was fitted (slow, full lock turns, look in the wing mirror, you can see the rear wheels move). Turns out the T we were driving DID have RWS, I couldn’t tell any difference. Glad I didn’t spec!
neilf said:
Didn’t spec RWS on my T.
Had to stop the T I was driving on my recent PEC to have a look if it was fitted (slow, full lock turns, look in the wing mirror, you can see the rear wheels move). Turns out the T we were driving DID have RWS, I couldn’t tell any difference. Glad I didn’t spec!
RWD is supposed to add stability in high speed cornering, but I’m not sure many of us would really notice, especially on public roads. I have it on my Taycan and definitely notice it when manoeuvring the car, it’s very useful in tight spaces. Whether it’s worth optioning on a 911 is debatable (mine has it but I bought the car from stock), but it’s not expensive. Had to stop the T I was driving on my recent PEC to have a look if it was fitted (slow, full lock turns, look in the wing mirror, you can see the rear wheels move). Turns out the T we were driving DID have RWS, I couldn’t tell any difference. Glad I didn’t spec!
I think the bigger issue on a car like the T is adding options like a sunroof that add considerably to the weight, but each to their own.
This is true.
If you read/listen to the technical explanations for the S/T not having RWS, Porsche themselves say that it reduces weight, improves responsive performance coming out of slower corners and provides a more natural feel.
Not saying it’s a bad option, but a growing opinion that it is not necessary.
If you read/listen to the technical explanations for the S/T not having RWS, Porsche themselves say that it reduces weight, improves responsive performance coming out of slower corners and provides a more natural feel.
Not saying it’s a bad option, but a growing opinion that it is not necessary.
Geneve said:
This is true.
If you read/listen to the technical explanations for the S/T not having RWS, Porsche themselves say that it reduces weight, improves responsive performance coming out of slower corners and provides a more natural feel.
Not saying it’s a bad option, but a growing opinion that it is not necessary.
If I was speccing a T from new I wouldn’t bother with RWS, not even sure the Bose is worth it given the cabin noise! Rear seats, parking sensors and folding mirrors would be my poverty spec. If you read/listen to the technical explanations for the S/T not having RWS, Porsche themselves say that it reduces weight, improves responsive performance coming out of slower corners and provides a more natural feel.
Not saying it’s a bad option, but a growing opinion that it is not necessary.
Blue62 said:
If I was speccing a T from new I wouldn’t bother with RWS, not even sure the Bose is worth it given the cabin noise! Rear seats, parking sensors and folding mirrors would be my poverty spec.
+ metallic + t interior + foc door graphics delete + foc painted interior trim ….. et voilaEdited by bennno on Tuesday 18th June 09:16
Blue62 said:
I think the bigger issue on a car like the T is adding options like a sunroof that add considerably to the weight, but each to their own.
What, a bit of glass and an electric motor adding weight? When there's a near 40% chance of the driver being overweight or obese? Get real mate.Maxym said:
What, a bit of glass and an electric motor adding weight? When there's a near 40% chance of the driver being overweight or obese? Get real mate.
The engineers work hard in reducing weight to optimise the drive and we add lots of goodies on to render their efforts pointless. It’s a road car so nobody’s getting carried away, but I don’t understand why someone who wants a roof and 18 way seats wouldn’t just buy a base car or an S. av185 said:
Usual story the T is not just about saving a few kgs.
A car which adds up to more than the sum of its parts.
Just like the 991.2 T.
Those who cannot grasp this are as usual missing the whole ethos of the car....as they did with the previous gen.
I agree, but after two weeks of ownership I have to say that the balance of the car is spot on for me and the weight of the thing is part of that. I wanted to get back to the experience of my first ever 911, a 993 Carrera manual bought new in 1996 and sold after twelve months when child No1 arrived. A car which adds up to more than the sum of its parts.
Just like the 991.2 T.
Those who cannot grasp this are as usual missing the whole ethos of the car....as they did with the previous gen.
I’ve genuinely missed that car ever since, but wondered if it was just nostalgia for what remains my favourite 911, but after owning several 911’s in the intervening period I think this manual T is probably the closest. A 997 GTS was almost there, but I think this one is better, just.
Not been on this thread for a while. I actually moved my 992T on this week - been for sale quite a while and despite it being a really good car and very sensibly priced, it had very little interest. The market is pretty brutal at the moment and for what it’s worth I’d suggest prospective buyers go in with your eyes wide open depreciation wise!
finmac said:
Not been on this thread for a while. I actually moved my 992T on this week - been for sale quite a while and despite it being a really good car and very sensibly priced, it had very little interest. The market is pretty brutal at the moment and for what it’s worth I’d suggest prospective buyers go in with your eyes wide open depreciation wise!
Would you share spec / milage / price obtained?bennno said:
Would you share spec / milage / price obtained?
https://finder.porsche.com/gb/en-GB/dealer/details...finmac said:
Not been on this thread for a while. I actually moved my 992T on this week - been for sale quite a while and despite it being a really good car and very sensibly priced, it had very little interest. The market is pretty brutal at the moment and for what it’s worth I’d suggest prospective buyers go in with your eyes wide open depreciation wise!
Were you selling privately - and in Scotland?I was once told that used cars are better value in Scotland, especially in more remote areas, because there is a smaller buying population and it is much further to travel for viewings.
Koln-RS said:
finmac said:
Not been on this thread for a while. I actually moved my 992T on this week - been for sale quite a while and despite it being a really good car and very sensibly priced, it had very little interest. The market is pretty brutal at the moment and for what it’s worth I’d suggest prospective buyers go in with your eyes wide open depreciation wise!
Were you selling privately - and in Scotland?I was once told that used cars are better value in Scotland, especially in more remote areas, because there is a smaller buying population and it is much further to travel for viewings.
I have been looking at manual t’s. They are slipping into the early 90’s f or a nice spec. What are trade bids like on these. At 86-90k I think I would be very keen. Or do I wait for the winter?
I hear dealers are not selling cars but I have contacted two dealers about a car in stock, one won’t knock a penny off and the rubystone one in the IOM won’t even answer a call/ e mail.
Interesting sales tactics!
I hear dealers are not selling cars but I have contacted two dealers about a car in stock, one won’t knock a penny off and the rubystone one in the IOM won’t even answer a call/ e mail.
Interesting sales tactics!
finmac said:
Not been on this thread for a while. I actually moved my 992T on this week - been for sale quite a while and despite it being a really good car and very sensibly priced, it had very little interest. The market is pretty brutal at the moment and for what it’s worth I’d suggest prospective buyers go in with your eyes wide open depreciation wise!
Mine had been up for sale for a while SOR with my OPC - again little interest (the specification is not to everyone's taste - Rubystar Neo exterior, lots of carbon, manual and Burmiester etc.) - it was being sold as I have something else special coming. But this weekend I took it back from the OPC and I've decided to keep it. It's the perfect specification for me and the more I thought about selling it, the more I realised I'd regret it; just like I did a few weeks after selling a previously owned 991.2 Carrera T.So yesterday I drove it again for the first time in a few months and I am certain I've made the right decision in keeping it. It makes me happy and the way it drives on my local roads is just about perfect.
Edited by TheDeadPrussian on Monday 1st July 17:25
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