The 997 Appreciation Thread
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I took the pic from this 6speed thread: https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/997/376695-pad...
A 997.2 sports steering wheel with proper paddles.
PRO5T said:
Ho would the insurers know about a gearbox remap 
My car has a Manthey 3.9 engine conversion-you think in the event of an accident they're stripping down the engine to check if it's in factory tolerances?
If you plough into a bus stop and kill someone / some people then absolutely. The cost of doing that they will happily absorb, if it allows them to mitigate their liability. My car has a Manthey 3.9 engine conversion-you think in the event of an accident they're stripping down the engine to check if it's in factory tolerances?Filibuster said:
I took the pic from this 6speed thread: https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/997/376695-pad...
A 997.2 sports steering wheel with proper paddles.
My impression of the tip box is that it doesn’t like being hurried; first gear is too short and it’s more slush box than anything else. As a cruiser with the top down and listening to music, it is right up there with the best of them and was perhaps designed, in Cab Tip variant, to compete with the Mercedes R230 SL or Jaguar XK.
All that said though, I’d probably reach for the keys to the tip first ahead of my raw 3.6 manual coupe with the noisy exhaust, more often than not.
Louis Balfour said:
PRO5T said:
Ho would the insurers know about a gearbox remap My car has a Manthey 3.9 engine conversion-you think in the event of an accident they're stripping down the engine to check if it's in factory tolerances?
If you plough into a bus stop and kill someone / some people then absolutely. The cost of doing that they will happily absorb, if it allows them to mitigate their liability. My car has a Manthey 3.9 engine conversion-you think in the event of an accident they're stripping down the engine to check if it's in factory tolerances?In the grand scheme of things though outside of a freak accident (which I guess is what you insure for!) no one is going to know or care.
maz8062 said:
Filibuster said:
I took the pic from this 6speed thread: https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/997/376695-pad...
A 997.2 sports steering wheel with proper paddles.
My impression of the tip box is that it doesn’t like being hurried; first gear is too short and it’s more slush box than anything else. As a cruiser with the top down and listening to music, it is right up there with the best of them and was perhaps designed, in Cab Tip variant, to compete with the Mercedes R230 SL or Jaguar XK.
All that said though, I’d probably reach for the keys to the tip first ahead of my raw 3.6 manual coupe with the noisy exhaust, more often than not.
Best setup for a tiptronic 997 imho would be a reprogramming of the software + the steering wheel I posted above.
I used to have the Sport Design steering wheel in my 997.2 PDK.
Found it to have paddles with too long throw (distance to pull). And a PCB inside the steering wheel that checks if you are trying to pull upshift and downshift at the same time and introduces significant delay! You pull the paddle, then after a delay (ms) the gear would shift.
Coming from a Golf R 7.5 with DSG, this was unacceptable.
So, now I have a MOMO Mod7 Porsche Cup Steering wheel with MME Motorsport Paddles (Sim Shifters), and the PDK TCU was sent to Ninemeister for a custom map to remove the Torque Limiter and raise the Clutch Line pressure, and optimise the Shift Signals.
Shifts like lightning now, when you pull the paddle, it shifts immediately
Found it to have paddles with too long throw (distance to pull). And a PCB inside the steering wheel that checks if you are trying to pull upshift and downshift at the same time and introduces significant delay! You pull the paddle, then after a delay (ms) the gear would shift.
Coming from a Golf R 7.5 with DSG, this was unacceptable.
So, now I have a MOMO Mod7 Porsche Cup Steering wheel with MME Motorsport Paddles (Sim Shifters), and the PDK TCU was sent to Ninemeister for a custom map to remove the Torque Limiter and raise the Clutch Line pressure, and optimise the Shift Signals.
Shifts like lightning now, when you pull the paddle, it shifts immediately
PRO5T said:
Louis Balfour said:
PRO5T said:
Ho would the insurers know about a gearbox remap My car has a Manthey 3.9 engine conversion-you think in the event of an accident they're stripping down the engine to check if it's in factory tolerances?
If you plough into a bus stop and kill someone / some people then absolutely. The cost of doing that they will happily absorb, if it allows them to mitigate their liability. My car has a Manthey 3.9 engine conversion-you think in the event of an accident they're stripping down the engine to check if it's in factory tolerances?In the grand scheme of things though outside of a freak accident (which I guess is what you insure for!) no one is going to know or care.
If an insurer gets landed with a big claim you can expect them to look for a way to avoid carrying the can, how deep they look depends upon how big the can is.
FMOB said:
I appreciate the irony that the manufacturer can update (remap) everything up the ying-yang without any insurance issues but a 3rd party remap to fix manufacturer created problems is a problem.
If an insurer gets landed with a big claim you can expect them to look for a way to avoid carrying the can, how deep they look depends upon how big the can is.
This. I guess the question is, would you bet your house on them not finding a mod in the (unlikely) event of a big claim?If an insurer gets landed with a big claim you can expect them to look for a way to avoid carrying the can, how deep they look depends upon how big the can is.
FMOB said:
I appreciate the irony that the manufacturer can update (remap) everything up the ying-yang without any insurance issues but a 3rd party remap to fix manufacturer created problems is a problem.
But the insurer knows, if a customer has got a factory Mitsubishi Ying Yang, it's got 750bhp. They can price their risk accordingly. If the car has been remapped they don't.The GOAT 997
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Edited by KittyLitter on Friday 28th June 20:28
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