RE: 2024 Toyota GR Yaris | PH Review

RE: 2024 Toyota GR Yaris | PH Review

Sunday 30th June

2024 Toyota GR Yaris | PH Review

Finally - a production-spec GR Yaris on road and track. Can it really be £11k better than the last one?


Four years have passed since the Toyota GR Yaris broke the internet (PH forums included) with unprecedented levels of anticipation and hype. All the ingredients of hot hatch greatness were there: an all-wheel-drive chassis homologated for an (unfortunately defunct) ruleset in the World Rally Championship, the most powerful three-cylinder turbo engine to ever appear in a production car and some very tempting finance options had rally fans badgering their local Toyota dealer to get their name on the waiting list. As we all know, the wait was very much worth seeing out.

Step into the present and there’s a new GR Yaris in town. Sure, a facelift is never going to send the intended audience into overdrive quite like the original did, but there’s a comprehensive list of upgrades, tweaks and adjustments that aim to improve many of the bits that did work, and address the handful that didn’t.

For the latter, there’s a refreshed cabin with a dash that sits 50mm lower to rectify the launch car’s letterbox-like view out front and seats that are mounted 25mm closer to the ground to combat the old model’s lofty driving position. Analogue dials make way for a digital dashboard because, says Toyota chairman Akiyo ‘Morizo’ Toyoda, it’s what the WRC cars use, and it’s mounted in a new (and very blocky) housing that’s designed to put all the controls within the driver’s reach.

Of course, everything that made the original brilliant remains. ‘If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it’, so it goes, but Toyota encouraged its engineers and test drivers to break the car (not deliberately obviously) so it would know where improvements are required. That includes revisions to the 1.6-litre turbocharged motor (lighter pistons and tougher valvetrain) alongside a cooling package with a new sub-radiator and intercooler spray resulting from lessons learned in rallying. The same goes for the reworked styling, with the front bumper now split into three smaller pieces to make it easier and cheaper to replace after dinging it on a special stage.

It’s tougher, too. The amount of bonding adhesive and spot welds have been upped by 24 per cent and 13 per cent respectively, and the suspension struts are now mounted with three pins instead of one to maintain geometry under load. Crucially, though, the spring rates have increased all round to keep a lid on body control. Oh, and the price has been ramped up significantly too. The original Yaris started at £30k back in 2020, with Circuit Pack cars adding £3k on top of that. Nobody bought the other versions, so in Britain we’re only getting the Circuit Pack - which will now set you back £44,250. Oof.

Everything costs the moon these days, of course, but an £11k premium over the old car is quite the hike. To see if it really is worth the extra cash, Toyota has had us testing it in all conditions. You may recall we’ve already driven the new model on a frozen lake in Finland (and had ridiculous amounts of fun while doing so), which revealed it’s a lot keener going sideways on loose surfaces than its predecessor, surprisingly. However, the conditions couldn’t be more different for our latest test: a fast, technical circuit in Southern France in the middle of a heatwave.

Right off the bat, it’s clear all the work that’s gone into firming up the GR Yaris has paid off. The old car’s tendency to roll has been all but eradicated, as the stiffer suspension setup keeps 1,280kg of hatchback nicely balanced through the circuit’s switchbacks and cone chicanes. With that comes a noticeable improvement in steering feel. The old car was a touch vague off-centre; it’s much faster and weightier this time, communicating the ripples of the rumble strips right to your fingertips.

Grip levels are immense. Just when you think you’re on the limit, the front end somehow manages to summon adhesion from thin air to draw you even closer to the apex. Granted, with track temperatures at boiling point it’s no surprise the Yaris hauls out of corners with unbreakable traction, although we must account for the reworked Track differential mode, too, which varies the torque split between 60:40 and 30:70 for maximum bite. There’s a moment of hesitation on exit as the turbo spools, but that just forces you to get on the power earlier, managing the torque curve to spit you out the other side. With all the revisions and refinements, it hasn’t lost any of its old-school charm.

Conversely, the twitchiness you’d expect from a short-wheelbase, all-wheel-drive hot hatch never seems to materialise. The Circuit du Laquais is full of crests right in the middle of fast sweeping curves and on the entry of blind corners, a recipe for squirrelly braking and lift-off oversteer. Yet at no point does the GR become unstuck, with both axles firmly clinging on when the camber of the circuit tries its best to chuck you off. It’s only under heavy braking that the rear goes light, but not to the point where it feels like it wants to overtake the front. The same goes for mid-corner rotation, with the car pivoting sweetly beneath your backside with that assuring bite as the Michelin Pilot Sport 4Ss bed in under acceleration. It’s not overly playful, but it's beautifully adjustable right on the limit. 

It makes for an able and exciting track car, then, especially now that it’s a bit firmer and steers with more conviction. But where the previous GR Yaris truly shone was on a tight, greasy B road. Fortunately, there’s a glorious col that formed part of the Monte Carlo Rally in the '80s and early '90s, with its cracked and heavily cambered bends serving as the perfect Welsh mountain road substitute - only with far more spectacular views and no errant sheep to look out for.

Interestingly, the new version has a slightly different character to its predecessor out here. Flicking through the col’s countless hairpins would be effortless with the old car’s lighter steering, and while the new model is keener on turn-in with less input needed, the heavier rack does give you more of a workout in the slower corners. And it’s all the more gratifying for it, making you feel like double WRC champ Kalle Rovanpera wrestling a Rally1 car along the cliff-lined roads of Rally Monte.

Moreover, it took the best part of 20 minutes before I realised that the GR Yaris I’d been assigned for the road section was in Eco mode. Driving modes weren’t available in the old car, but you can now sharpen the throttle response by switching the toggle to Normal or Sport. In the latter, as you might expect, the GR feels a smidgen sharper under acceleration than it did previously, but the additional 20hp from all the engine upgrades means it’s more eager to keep pulling higher up the rev range. For what it’s worth, there’s some fun to be had by leaving it Eco mode. The lazier throttle coupled with turbo lag does a fine impression of an old Group B rally car (at least, in my mind it does), where the pace comes from keeping the momentum up from one corner to the next.

Predictably, it's still a complete riot on a tight and narrow road. If there’s one criticism, however, it’s to be found in the firmer suspension. What was so refreshing about the old car was the feeling that it was always on its toes, floating over crests and breathing with the topography of the road. The new model feels like a more conventional hot hatch: improved lateral composure, yet it doesn’t soak up the surface in the same way as its predecessor managed. Ride comfort takes a minor but notable hit as a result.

What of the auto, then? Toyota hinted back 2020 that a flappy paddle option wasn’t off the table, taking the form of an eight-speed torque converter here. Naturally, it comes into its own on a circuit, with the track-friendly setup working well with the auto’s snappy paddle-activated shifts. However, it’s not quite as seamless on the road. At times it can take too long from pulling a paddle to the cog coming into play, and when cruising on a motorway it often refused to engage eighth, instead preferring seventh and the extra 2,000rpm that came with it - and that was in Eco mode.

Regardless, this is a sharper and better-focused GR Yaris. Admittedly, a part of me misses the slightly more pliant, rally-esque ride, and its absence may become increasingly significant when we drive it on home soil - but, for now, there’s no denying the firmer setup has resulted in a more rewarding car on the right road. This makes it a step up from the 2020 model, although it doesn't make the £44k asking price any easier to swallow. Not that Toyota will have any trouble filling the order books, partly because it’s only bringing ‘a couple of thousand’ to Europe. That ought to generate the usual stampede (and some simmering resentment) but it's probably worth bearing in mind that the original is very nearly as good as its replacement, and potentially a bit easier to live with. And definitely you'll find them cheaper in the classifieds


SPECIFICATION | 2024 TOYOTA GR YARIS

Engine: 1,618cc three-cylinder, turbocharged
Transmission: six-speed manual, all-wheel drive (optional eight-speed automatic)
Power (hp): 280@6,500rpm
Torque (lb ft): 288@3,250rpm - 4,000rpm
0-62mph: 5.2 seconds
Top speed: 143mph
Weight: 1,280kg
MPG: 34
CO2: 187.9g/km
Price: £44,250

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Newbie2023

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There appears to be no mention by the author as to whether, or not, the 25mm drop in seat height has been sufficient enough to address that particular bugbear of the original model or how the efforts to increase visability have translated to the real world driving experience? To address so early in the piece the fact that specifc areas of improvement were targeted by Toyota in the development of this revision then fail to follow up on as to if those efforts have resulted in the desired effect seems to be a bit of an oversight to me.

I quite like the simplistic functionality of the dash but it definitely looks 'Atari' retro as opposed to anything contempory, let alone futuristic. Again there is no mention of how this compares from a user perspective to the previous model? I appreciate that this car is predominantly about the sensations brought from the way it goes but a little more detail of how the package now works as a cohesive whole wouldn't go amiss, especially if it were aspects other than the overall driving exoerience which subjected the product to any form of criticism the first time around?


Edited by Newbie2023 on Saturday 29th June 07:23

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SimmoJon said:
Oh bore off wont you
Why; because I've asked a few questions that will be relevant to those who already own a GR and will already be considering the benefits vs cost implications of trading up to the new model at a higher price point?

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SebSpitz88 said:
Wow, you’d love to go to diner with the person at the top of the comments wouldn't you…
SebSpitz88 said:
Ahhh… you must be his wife
Presumably, with a mentality such as your's, the only social functions you really shine at are children's parties?

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warren182 said:
Why oh why is it always referred to as ‘short wheelbase’. It’s nothing of the sort. The wheelbase is longer than a Porsche 992.

The dash still looks awful to my eyes. 90’s Alba hifi style.
It's definitely function over style but I don't actually mind that, I'd rather retain the physical controls, in a simple layout, than go down the route of touch screens and/or pads for the items in regular use.

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It'll be interesting to compare the ride quality of the new and existiing models back to back to see which would be preferable on the typical bumpy B road in the uk. The Alpine A110 is the perfect example of where the model in the range with the most compliant ride often proves to be the best compromise to live with in that particular user case.

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SebSpitz88 said:
Ohhh dear…he’s getting kids involved now
Exactly what is it that you are implying and please don't let it be that the comparison to your own mentality as being the equivalent to a child's bares some form of relationship to pedophilia on my behalf as that really won't look good for you, will it?

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Baldchap said:
I put my name down in the ballot for the Rovanpera edition but was not successful. Looks like I'll be sticking to my MK1.
Is that the multi-coloured paint job edition?

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Baldchap said:
Yes. I think it looked smart. Other opinions are available. laugh
And I am sure that folks would be more than happy to express them to you as well! biggrin

Are you considering a regular version now or was it just a special edition that was desirable?

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herebebeasties said:
Just ignore them, for the sake of yourself and the rest of us. Or you'll get this thread closed too, just like the Bugatti one.

I agree, seems odd not to comment properly on the cabin updates to fix the main issues noted in the previous version's reviews.
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Baldchap said:
I have a MK1 so can't justify a non-SE MK2.
Fair enough. Maybe there will be another opportunity further down the line for some more special editions to be developed.

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samoht said:
There's a lot of talk about the price hike, but to me that just reflects that we still haven't got our heads around post-Covid inflation.

The linked story from 2020 quotes a price of £33495 for a Circuit Pack car. The BoE Inflation Calculator tells us that would equate to £41,253 today. So in real terms it's £3k more expensive, for a car which might apparently be sold in more limited numbers.

https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/monetary-policy/in...
I expect the real comparison won't be applicable for many until the realistic cost of getting into the new model is determined after those who are flipping have taken their cut. But you are correct about the inflation.

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thatsprettyshady said:
herebebeasties said:
thatsprettyshady said:
As someone who spent almost £2k on new seats and seat rails, a steering wheel extender and rear view mirror mods for his GR yaris to make it comfortable for someone 6"4, I'm interested to hear about this too.
No one ever seems to mention the rear seats in these in reviews. Would yours be remotely usable for kids given your height? Or is it basically a two-seater if you're over six foot?
My kids never went in mine, I think if my kids were still babies/toddlers then it would have been fine but forget having anyone needing any sort of leg room.

Autocar said this and it's accurate -

The boot is pitiful, room for 3 shopping bags and even that's a stretch.
Would it still work as a two plus one? I've had a few small cars where, even though the seat behind the driver is obviously unusable for passengers, there was just enough room for two to sit one behind the other in relative comfort the other side. I expect that this would be enough for many.

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ecsrobin said:
I’ve done a 2hr stint through Germany with a 3rd adult behind the passenger to get them to an airport they had no complaints but it was mainly autobahn.
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ChocolateFrog said:
There's something very 80's Sci-fi about it, can definitely see it growing on me.
My personal view is that it looks a bit cheap, even though I'm a fan of it's general simplicity. I expect that just so long as it doesn't also feel cheap at the same time that it won't present itself as being much of a burden though.

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Gibbo205 said:
Hi there

We sold our MK1 a couple of weeks back taking the gamble we would win the ballot.

Our luck is in, we have won one and I’ve ordered grey with manual. smile

We had our MK1 from new so just over three and half years and sold it privately for 25k this June it is lost us 8k in our ownership the equivalent to £190 a month - bargain!

We plan to keep MK2 forever unless it seriously unimpressed in some aspect but if we do ever sell it in a few years we expect our losses to be greater than 8k, maybe as much as 20k as I expect though this year the car will be seriously limited to maybe around 200-300 units I’d expect Toyota to build and ship a lot more to the U.K. in 2025z

I’m looking forward to getting the MK2 and seeing how it compares to our MK1. smile
Congratulations, I hope that it works out well for you.

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AmazingGrace said:
Yawn.
Must be so frustrating for you, that you had to spew out an overly verbose and unnecessary reply.

Want to know about the seats? Go and sit in one. Simple.
So essentially, going by your logic, is there any point to either this or any other review at all then? Surely anybody that is interested in product will just have to go out and try it for themselves as opposed to making any attempts to gain meaningful information about it before hand?

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GTRene said:
I'm not sure which one looks better...
Do they do a manual version with a n/a V8? Asking for Cerb4.5lee laugh

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AmazingGrace said:
croyde said:
Anyway, how can you sit in one of they are all sold.

I've been on this forum since 2005 and still can't understand why some posters seem to take great delight in slagging off strangers.

If you are not happy with him asking about stuff that was written about in the original review which didn't gleen answers just ignore/keep quiet.

Keep the place friendly, no need for nastiness smile
Might be that he just rubs people up the wrong way.

But yeah agreed lets keep it friendly, apologies you felt you had to write that.
On the face of it the only people that I have 'rubbed up the wrong way' are those who have had nothing more to add to the discussion other than a desire to express their need to attack someone for the sake of having anything to say. I'm more than happy with that.

Edited by Newbie2023 on Saturday 29th June 19:24

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Mikebentley said:
ecsrobin said:
cerb4.5lee said:
Newbie2023 said:
GTRene said:
I'm not sure which one looks better...
Do they do a manual version with a n/a V8? Asking for Cerb4.5lee laugh
hehe

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Speedo doesn’t go high enough for him.
If they also made it an EV and restricted it to 200 mph top speed Lee’s head would literally explode.
These are all funny cause they're true. Sort of.

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cerb4.5lee said:
So true for sure in fairness! biglaugh

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