Driving the day after...
Discussion
This is not a legal question, but before I start, I want to clearly state that I do not condone alcohol intake and driving a vehicle of any kind.
With that said, I am curious to know PHers views/opinions about driving “the day after” especially early in the morning and when you "think" it is safe or legal to do so
Typically I take the view that if I was mullerd (sp?) the night before or get home late(ish), then I will try not to drive at all the next day. But what, say, you get in at midnight one Thursday, having had 8 beers over a 4 hour period. Work next morning, so when would you consider yourself safe to drive, as a rule of thumb (noting of course that the BiB may have a differing view). You’ve got no kit at home to do any sort of test, so is it a gamble/risk to drive at say 8am? What about 6:30?
I know that there are some medical/biological variables here, but I’m just curious about what your views are to this?
I never drink huge amounts and when I do drink a reasonable amount I feel so ill the next day that I wouldn't even try to get out of bed, let alone drive a car!
If i could manage to drink a huge amount and I thought it MAY affect my driving or put me over the limit, I wouldn't drive, not worth my life/someone elses life/my license etc etc etc
If i could manage to drink a huge amount and I thought it MAY affect my driving or put me over the limit, I wouldn't drive, not worth my life/someone elses life/my license etc etc etc
a pint of fosters is 2.3 units, the body gets rid of the alcohol at a rate of one unit per hour.
if i am driving the next day, early say 8 ish then i will only have 2 pints before midinght.
thats 4.6 units, so the way i look at it call it 5 units, before midnight, all the alcohol will be out of my system for 5am. that way theres no way ill be over the limit at 8 am.
another thing to remember too, the myth of i had 6 pints on a full roast dinner so that will soak up the alcohol it totaly rubbush!
it works the other way round, the body has to process the volume of alcohol plus the big dinner, so it actualy takes longer to get out of the system!!!!!!!!!!!!
if i am driving the next day, early say 8 ish then i will only have 2 pints before midinght.
thats 4.6 units, so the way i look at it call it 5 units, before midnight, all the alcohol will be out of my system for 5am. that way theres no way ill be over the limit at 8 am.
another thing to remember too, the myth of i had 6 pints on a full roast dinner so that will soak up the alcohol it totaly rubbush!
it works the other way round, the body has to process the volume of alcohol plus the big dinner, so it actualy takes longer to get out of the system!!!!!!!!!!!!
now, neither do I condone it but i have in a previous life attempted driving the morning after a rather heavy night out. got to the end of the 1st road and almost hit a car coming round the corner. pulled over, went back home.
never drive now until at least 3 in the afternoon or even later if ive had a fair few. not worth the risk, to others, or yourself,
never drive now until at least 3 in the afternoon or even later if ive had a fair few. not worth the risk, to others, or yourself,
Du1point8, your thread is here...The morning after BTaP we have a team turn up with proper breathalysers and it's always interesting to watch the results, often the people feeling awful are blowing zero and those feeling fine are actually over the limit.
There doesn't even seem to be much correlation between amount consumed, time of stopping and level the next morning. Some who were plastered and still drinking at 4am will be under the limit, some who were in bed by midnight will be over.
I think the only message you can take from it is that you need to be very careful.
I tend not to drive the following day if I have a huge session the night before.
Having said that, the last BTaP I attended involved consuming large amounts of alcohol (anyone who has ever been will happily tell you that nearly everybody has a skinfull) and upon waking up in the morning I felt absolutely fine. Obviously, there's a huge difference between feeling fine to drive and actually being fine to drive..
Thankfully PH had kindly arranged to have a chap standing in the foyer to breathalyse all guests that were checking out of the hotel. I wasn't really fussed what reading I'd get on the breathalyser as I'd just get the Mrs to drive home who doesn't really drink. As it happened, I blew a perfect zero and I was soon off on my way home.
Still makes me chuckle when I remember seeing Gizmo's face after giving a perfect reading. I think he was somewhere in the region of 3 times of the drink drive limit and was going nowhere fast.
I've drifted off the topic slightly but the point is, everybody is different when it comes to how your body handles alcohol but the trouble is nobody knows just how much is left in their system so it's always best not to risk it.
Having said that, the last BTaP I attended involved consuming large amounts of alcohol (anyone who has ever been will happily tell you that nearly everybody has a skinfull) and upon waking up in the morning I felt absolutely fine. Obviously, there's a huge difference between feeling fine to drive and actually being fine to drive..
Thankfully PH had kindly arranged to have a chap standing in the foyer to breathalyse all guests that were checking out of the hotel. I wasn't really fussed what reading I'd get on the breathalyser as I'd just get the Mrs to drive home who doesn't really drink. As it happened, I blew a perfect zero and I was soon off on my way home.
Still makes me chuckle when I remember seeing Gizmo's face after giving a perfect reading. I think he was somewhere in the region of 3 times of the drink drive limit and was going nowhere fast.
I've drifted off the topic slightly but the point is, everybody is different when it comes to how your body handles alcohol but the trouble is nobody knows just how much is left in their system so it's always best not to risk it.
steve_bmw said:
a pint of fosters is 2.3 units, the body gets rid of the alcohol at a rate of one unit per hour.
if i am driving the next day, early say 8 ish then i will only have 2 pints before midinght.
thats 4.6 units, so the way i look at it call it 5 units, before midnight, all the alcohol will be out of my system for 5am. that way theres no way ill be over the limit at 8 am.
another thing to remember too, the myth of i had 6 pints on a full roast dinner so that will soak up the alcohol it totaly rubbush!
it works the other way round, the body has to process the volume of alcohol plus the big dinner, so it actualy takes longer to get out of the system!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes, but, you don't have the two pints at the same time bang on midnight, you start at 10pm or whatever, so your starting to loose the alcohol in the 1st sip of pint one immediatly, if you see what I mean.if i am driving the next day, early say 8 ish then i will only have 2 pints before midinght.
thats 4.6 units, so the way i look at it call it 5 units, before midnight, all the alcohol will be out of my system for 5am. that way theres no way ill be over the limit at 8 am.
another thing to remember too, the myth of i had 6 pints on a full roast dinner so that will soak up the alcohol it totaly rubbush!
it works the other way round, the body has to process the volume of alcohol plus the big dinner, so it actualy takes longer to get out of the system!!!!!!!!!!!!
Alot of people calculate it from the number of pints from the last pint, which isn't techncally correct as you've already started the absorbtion rate from the 1st pint by the time your second one hits the table.
Huge risk.
Not sure if you mean 8 bottles or pints and not sure whether you mean something weak or something strong.
I'm 5 foot 10 and 13.5 stone. If I drank 8 pint of Stella in 4 hours and went to bed at 12.00 I'd be way over the limit until well into the next day - late morning earliest
If I drank 8 bottles of Stella I'd still be over the limit at commute time the next day.
I once tried one of those self-breathalisers after a hefty session and was still over the limit at 1.30 PM (!) the next day.
Not sure if you mean 8 bottles or pints and not sure whether you mean something weak or something strong.
I'm 5 foot 10 and 13.5 stone. If I drank 8 pint of Stella in 4 hours and went to bed at 12.00 I'd be way over the limit until well into the next day - late morning earliest
If I drank 8 bottles of Stella I'd still be over the limit at commute time the next day.
I once tried one of those self-breathalisers after a hefty session and was still over the limit at 1.30 PM (!) the next day.
My BiL was caught (and banned) for being over the limit at midday the following day.Mate here in Dubai was stitched up by a local who overtook him then slammed on the brakes and had a fender bender. He got out of the car to have a word with the bloke and the guy was on the phone. My mate happens to speak pretty good arabic and heard the bloke clearly say, 'I've got another one for you'.
Plod turned up (far too quickly), booked my mate and then breathalised him - he had the faintest traces of alcohol in his system from the night before, it was just gone noon.
2 months in prison (oddly, prison isn't the greatest here - he saw 2 murders while in...) and a £5k fine.
Very bizarrely, they didn't ban him.
Plod turned up (far too quickly), booked my mate and then breathalised him - he had the faintest traces of alcohol in his system from the night before, it was just gone noon.
2 months in prison (oddly, prison isn't the greatest here - he saw 2 murders while in...) and a £5k fine.
Very bizarrely, they didn't ban him.
mrmr96 said:
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Why would it be an hour per unit since you finished, rather than since you started?Interesting stuff about BTaP and the morning after breathalyser - good work setting that up.
Just goes to show that you really do never know - feel fine or rough as, Fat V Thin, "I've got a fast metabolism" vs "I never move" and no-one can second guess how fast they can process alcohol.
I can never stomach more than 4 pints in a night anyway. On the rare occasions I've got so t
tted I'm rough the next day, my wife is driving, or else the closest I'll get to a car is a bit of Gran Turismo.Mr Will said:
The morning after BTaP we have a team turn up with proper breathalysers and it's always interesting to watch the results, often the people feeling awful are blowing zero and those feeling fine are actually over the limit.
There doesn't even seem to be much correlation between amount consumed, time of stopping and level the next morning. Some who were plastered and still drinking at 4am will be under the limit, some who were in bed by midnight will be over.
I think the only message you can take from it is that you need to be very careful.
This TBH - I was bought a breathalyser for Christmas - and spent most of Christmas playing with it. It's supposedly the most reputable one on sale, so I trust it - but I was actually shocked to be blowing 0 on Christmas day (following a very heavy Christmas Eve) and subsequent mornings after when there was no way I considered myself fit to drive.There doesn't even seem to be much correlation between amount consumed, time of stopping and level the next morning. Some who were plastered and still drinking at 4am will be under the limit, some who were in bed by midnight will be over.
I think the only message you can take from it is that you need to be very careful.
I still didn't drive - and wouldn't condone doing so - but it almost give me too much of a sense of security.
Some years ago when I was at Uni I had a prang one Sunday afternoon (around 1pm-ish) when some dozy bint in an Almera pulled out of a side road straight in front of me. The police rocked up and breathalised us both - I was bricking it as I'd been out the night before and I'd had quite alot of booze, and to be perfectly honest at that point I had no clue as to how long these things took - the relief when my reading came back as a perfect zero was pretty immense.
Talking about it with a mate afterwards who had been with me on both the night out and in the car we came up with the theory that the weather might have saved our asses, it was mid-June and pretty hot so when on the night out before we had (without really thinking about it) stopped drinking alcohol at about midnight and had started drinking pints of ice water to cool down untill we finally left the club at kicking out time.
To this day I'm not sure if I would have been clear or not had I been drinking for several more hours but suffice it I've always played it very, very safe on the day after ever since!
Talking about it with a mate afterwards who had been with me on both the night out and in the car we came up with the theory that the weather might have saved our asses, it was mid-June and pretty hot so when on the night out before we had (without really thinking about it) stopped drinking alcohol at about midnight and had started drinking pints of ice water to cool down untill we finally left the club at kicking out time.
To this day I'm not sure if I would have been clear or not had I been drinking for several more hours but suffice it I've always played it very, very safe on the day after ever since!
These people who get banned on a morning after must get absolutely spasticated. And for the record that 1 unit per hour is BS of the highest order.
(at least) 8 pints grolsch 9pm- 3am, tugged and bagged at 9.30am looking like st warmed over, green light. Told off for driving briskly (it was the 90's)
(at least) 8 pints grolsch 9pm- 3am, tugged and bagged at 9.30am looking like s
t warmed over, green light. Told off for driving briskly (it was the 90's)It depends massively on individual factors. You can't say one rule is definite for everybody.
I have done breathalyzer training with work. It depends on gender, age, alcohol tolerance, food intake, timing, loads of things.
I asked the instructor what it would take for you to still be over the limit when driving to work at 8am the next day.
He said you'd have had to have a serious skinful until the early hours to break the drink-drive limit the next morning at that time.
Like, proper pissed and still drinking in the early hours.
Of course some people get up earlier, or carry on drinking later. They think a couple of hours sleep magics away all that alcohol. These are the ones that get caught.
If you've just get a bit pissed at a pub until 11pm but still get a good 8-9hrs kip, you'll be fine.
I have done breathalyzer training with work. It depends on gender, age, alcohol tolerance, food intake, timing, loads of things.
I asked the instructor what it would take for you to still be over the limit when driving to work at 8am the next day.
He said you'd have had to have a serious skinful until the early hours to break the drink-drive limit the next morning at that time.
Like, proper pissed and still drinking in the early hours.
Of course some people get up earlier, or carry on drinking later. They think a couple of hours sleep magics away all that alcohol. These are the ones that get caught.
If you've just get a bit pissed at a pub until 11pm but still get a good 8-9hrs kip, you'll be fine.
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