hpi check. help

[rkg]

Hi,

I'm looking at a car and decided to do some investigation beforehand by running an HPI check. I got the current number plate from the seller & ran it through the HPI report & came up with this:

* The current plate was transferred to this vehicle on 16/10/2008
* N***T was applied to this vehicle on 07/01/2008
o This VRM has been recorded by the police as stolen
o It was recorded stolen on 14/04/2001 against a ROVER 400
o This VRM has been recorded as having an outstanding finance agreement
o An outstanding finance agreement was recorded on 02/04/2010 against a FIAT GRANDE PUNTO GP 8V
o This VRM has been recorded as an insurance theft
o The insurance theft was recorded on 14/04/2001 against a ROVER 416 SLI
* K*****A was applied to this vehicle on 27/04/2007
o There are no interests recorded against KR53UUA
* T*****V was applied to this vehicle on 31/01/2005
o This VRM has been recorded as being written-off
o The insurance write-off was recorded on 06/08/2004 against a AUDI 77
* K*****A was applied to this vehicle on 16/01/2004
o There are no interests recorded against K*****A

Can anyone explain if this is ok? Or is it worth avoiding?
The cars an Audi tt btw
Cheers in advance if anyone can help.

[Davie_GLA]

You have to ask?

Far too much to think about there. There are plenty of cars out there. Move on.

[B'stard Child]

rkg said:

Hi,

I'm looking at a car and decided to do some investigation beforehand by running an HPI check. I got the current number plate from the seller & ran it through the HPI report & came up with this:

* The current plate was transferred to this vehicle on 16/10/2008
* N***T was applied to this vehicle on 07/01/2008
o This VRM has been recorded by the police as stolen
o It was recorded stolen on 14/04/2001 against a ROVER 400
o This VRM has been recorded as having an outstanding finance agreement
o An outstanding finance agreement was recorded on 02/04/2010 against a FIAT GRANDE PUNTO GP 8V
o This VRM has been recorded as an insurance theft
o The insurance theft was recorded on 14/04/2001 against a ROVER 416 SLI
* K*****A was applied to this vehicle on 27/04/2007
o There are no interests recorded against KR53UUA
* T*****V was applied to this vehicle on 31/01/2005
o This VRM has been recorded as being written-off
o The insurance write-off was recorded on 06/08/2004 against a AUDI 77
* K*****A was applied to this vehicle on 16/01/2004
o There are no interests recorded against K*****A

Can anyone explain if this is ok? Or is it worth avoiding?
The cars an Audi tt btw
Cheers in advance if anyone can help.

It's a chuffing unlucky number plate!!!

[rkg]

Well to me it looks like the original plate(K*****A)is clean, but its had two other private plates put on which have all the bad history when attached to other cars? Or am I being daft?

The rest of the report is clean as a whistle btw.

[Some Gump]

OP,

the report says that your car is clean, but I'd run a mile because it'll be a total pita come resale time. People want to see a car with good history, what they see here is "last owner is a probable pikey" - 2 write offs, a stolen, and outstanding finance. Will he have looked after the car, or ragged it from cold?

[anonymous-user]

I'm confused. Is the TT infact clean?

[CampDavid]

MSTRBKR said:

I'm confused. Is the TT infact clean?

Yes, but it's had a bunch of different plates on it which have had shunts etc.

I personally wouldn't be put off, though I can see how it'll confuse some buyers

[GreigM]

Some Gump said:

OP,

the report says that your car is clean, but I'd run a mile because it'll be a total pita come resale time. People want to see a car with good history, what they see here is "last owner is a probable pikey" - 2 write offs, a stolen, and outstanding finance. Will he have looked after the car, or ragged it from cold?

although the plate itself may have been with a different owner also - you're reading too much into this, if the car is in good condition then the hpi wouldnt put me off....

[Some Gump]

Grieg,

I'm sure there is nothing wrong with the car. However, I've sold privately before. Any extra headache is not worth the pollavah - even on PH (a motoring enthusiast site), a large chunk of people are confused / put off.

just my opinion - after all, TT's are 10 a penny, so there is plenty of choice out there.

[edo]

As others have said, the car it's self is clean. However, it's amazingly unlucky that it seems to have had a number of plates which are attached to issues. Personally I would avoid unless it is something rare or hard to find. Too much of a pain come resale IMHO.

[littleredrooster]

rkg said:

Hi,

o The insurance write-off was recorded on 06/08/2004 against a AUDI TT
* K*****A was applied to this vehicle on 16/01/2004
o There are no interests recorded against K*****A

Can anyone explain if this is ok? Or is it worth avoiding?
The cars an Audi tt btw
Cheers in advance if anyone can help.

I beg to differ - working from the bottom upwards (i.e. earliest date first), this seems to suggest that the Audi TT was a write-off whilst carrying the plate K***UUA

[CampDavid]

littleredrooster said:

rkg said:

Hi,

o The insurance write-off was recorded on 06/08/2004 against a AUDI TT
* K*****A was applied to this vehicle on 16/01/2004
o There are no interests recorded against K*****A

Can anyone explain if this is ok? Or is it worth avoiding?
The cars an Audi tt btw
Cheers in advance if anyone can help.

I beg to differ - working from the bottom upwards (i.e. earliest date first), this seems to suggest that the Audi TT was a write-off whilst carrying the plate K***UUA

Not quite

• T*****V was applied to this vehicle on 31/01/2005

o This VRM has been recorded as being written-off
o The insurance write-off was recorded on 06/08/2004 against a AUDI 77

Basically, another TT was written off wearing that plate and the plate then moved onto this car.

Confusing as hell isn't it.

[edo]

The confusion in this thread should be enough to tell you what to do! Run Forrest, run!

[littleredrooster]

CampDavid said:

Not quite

• T*****V was applied to this vehicle on 31/01/2005

o This VRM has been recorded as being written-off
o The insurance write-off was recorded on 06/08/2004 against a AUDI 77

Basically, another TT was written off wearing that plate and the plate then moved onto this car.

Confusing as hell isn't it.

Confusing - yes, definitely. Are you not reading it from the top down, though? 2004 comes before 2005 in your example, so surely it was carrying the K***UUA plate when written off (probably from new, if I read it correctly). It was then rebuilt and given the T****V plate to disguise its identity......

[CampDavid]

littleredrooster said:

CampDavid said:

Not quite

• T*****V was applied to this vehicle on 31/01/2005

o This VRM has been recorded as being written-off
o The insurance write-off was recorded on 06/08/2004 against a AUDI 77

Basically, another TT was written off wearing that plate and the plate then moved onto this car.

Confusing as hell isn't it.

Confusing - yes, definitely. Are you not reading it from the top down, though? 2004 comes before 2005 in your example, so surely it was carrying the K***UUA plate when written off (probably from new, if I read it correctly). It was then rebuilt and given the T****V plate to disguise its identity......

The way it's presented you need to start at the bottom and read up with the star'd bit as being the plate and the circled bullets being the history of that plate. The car's never been written off but the way it's laid out here makes it a nightmare to figure out.

I think the original, non copy/paste report will be a little easier to read though.

[KaraK]

At the very least it looks to be involved in a game of musical number plates - personally I'd run a mile. There are plenty of clean TT's out there.

[CampDavid]

KaraK said:

At the very least it looks to be involved in a game of musical number plates - personally I'd run a mile. There are plenty of clean TT's out there.

I'm willing to bet that most TTs have had a plate or two on them, it's a car people buy primarily for the image (not saying it's a bad car, just that's it's big selling point)

If it's a good car then I wouldn't overly worry

[Pork]

There are enough TT's around to find a squeeky clean one. I'd move on, personally. What is the next buyer likely to do when they run an HPI?

[rkg]

I agree, it is very confusing.
I've since phoned HPI & they've told me the car is clean & that its the private plates that carry the history on other cars.
Its not very clear initially so I can see why it could potentially put off buyers(it put off me).

Also the cars in good nick & i don't think its been 'ragged'

P.S. the printed report is equally confusing as the copy & paste

[CraigyMc]

rkg said:

I agree, it is very confusing.
I've since phoned HPI & they've told me the car is clean & that its the private plates that carry the history on other cars.
Its not very clear initially so I can see why it could potentially put off buyers(it put off me).

Also the cars in good nick & i don't think its been 'ragged'

P.S. the printed report is equally confusing as the copy & paste

Still doesn't make things simpler if you ever want to part with the car - other HPIers will be put off in much the same way as you.

There are thousands of TTs out there... why this one?

C