Motorway services fuel pricing

Motorway services fuel pricing

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Variomatic

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2,392 posts

168 months

Friday 28th January 2011
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Had a trip up to Scotland yesterday and, on the way back, stopped for fuel just south of Carlisle. Couldn't be bothered to go hunting for a local station because it was a LONG drive with a trailer + old car bejind so was willing to pay a bit of a premium for convenience. But.....

The services had "regular diesel" posted at 139.9 per litre which is quite a good margin for them, even over the 136 it is locally here. Only, none of the pumps actually offered "regular diesel". They were all supplying "Ultimate" at a quite ridiculous £146.9. No mention of that anywhere until you pulled up at the pump and happened to notice the small LCD display price after pumping half a tank.

OK, the pumps had "Ultimate" branding on them but they also had normal and ultimate unleaded so it was hardly clear that the diesel was at a different price to that advertised. Incidentally, having put the "Ultimate" in there was absolutely no change in fuel consumption over the el-cheapo Tesco I'd filled with before leaving (at about 10% cheaper price).

Didn't really matter to me cos someone else was paying for the fuel (I was collecting a car for them as a favour) but there's got to be something wrong with a petrol station displaying the (legally required) price sign based on a product they don't actually sell????

king_of_herts

383 posts

203 months

Friday 28th January 2011
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I had this at the Shell in Chiswell Green, St Albans last week.

Pulled up to the pump to find only 'ultimate' (or whatever they call it) diesel for sale for about 7p a litre more than advertised.

I tried to complain to the attendant in the shop, but unfortunately English wasn't his strong point so I just left it promising never to use them again.

It's not right, how can they get away with it??

Bricol

140 posts

174 months

Saturday 29th January 2011
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Did either area have a separate area for trucks?

If they did, I bet those pumps were at the lower price. Cheeky though.

Bri

FranKinFezza

1,073 posts

186 months

Saturday 29th January 2011
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Ah motorway "services" fking over drivers since 1959!

bobr

1,031 posts

171 months

Saturday 29th January 2011
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I assume this was southwaite services? Bunch of fking con artists

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

211 months

Saturday 29th January 2011
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On old topgear they investigated this many many years ago

The reason given for the high prices by the motorway service stations will stay with me till i die

The reason that the motorway service stations gave for having hi fuel prices was

Transportation difficulties due to their distance from main roadsscratchchin

Variomatic

Original Poster:

2,392 posts

168 months

Saturday 29th January 2011
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Yes it was Southwaite and yes, it does have a separate HGV area - only accessible from the HGV parking area so no use at all to cars, and not connected to where their price sign is (right on the entrance to the car pumps).

shirt

23,431 posts

208 months

Saturday 29th January 2011
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only truckers, people with fuel cards/expense accounts and the terminally stupid buy fuel from motorway services.

MJK 24

5,652 posts

243 months

Saturday 29th January 2011
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Top tip for anyone heading north to Scotland - stop at Todhills rest area and enjoy Shell diesel for £1.29.9 or maybe £1.30.9.

As you pass junction 44 for Carlisle North, it's perhaps 1 mile further up. It's just a petrol station at the side of the motorway. No real services.

BP run the site on the other side (southbound) and it's normally 4ppl more expensive.

bicycleshorts

1,939 posts

168 months

Saturday 29th January 2011
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Variomatic said:
Only, none of the pumps actually offered "regular diesel". They were all supplying "Ultimate" at a quite ridiculous £146.9.
That's a bit sneaky, I'm sure it happens in other places - send an email/letter if you can be arsed.

boredofmyoldname

22,655 posts

206 months

Saturday 29th January 2011
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shirt said:
only truckers, people with fuel cards/expense accounts and the terminally stupid buy fuel from motorway services.
Last time I bought at a M/way services was in 2008 when prices went sky high, I had got off an overnight plane from New York and had to get back up north from Heathrow as quickly as possible, had less than 50 miles of fuel left so pulled into Watford Gap and paid £1.36.9 a litre for diesel, I had almost got to £20 when I noticed the price so replaced the pump and got home on fumes.

schmalex

13,616 posts

213 months

Saturday 29th January 2011
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To be fair, Fleet services is only 1ppl more expensive than the chepesr of the 2 petrol stations down the road from
my office

Pigeon

18,535 posts

253 months

Sunday 30th January 2011
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shirt said:
only truckers, people with fuel cards/expense accounts and the terminally stupid buy fuel from motorway services.
...the third category being why they do such a roaring trade.

XDA

2,151 posts

192 months

Sunday 30th January 2011
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MJK 24 said:
Top tip for anyone heading north to Scotland - stop at Todhills rest area and enjoy Shell diesel for £1.29.9 or maybe £1.30.9.

As you pass junction 44 for Carlisle North, it's perhaps 1 mile further up. It's just a petrol station at the side of the motorway. No real services.

BP run the site on the other side (southbound) and it's normally 4ppl more expensive.
Agreed.

I live just over the border in Scotland, and the fuel at that service station (Shell Todhills) is cheaper than it is on my town by 2-3p!!

Sam.F

1,144 posts

207 months

Sunday 30th January 2011
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MJK 24 said:
stop at Todhills rest area

BP run the site on the other side (southbound) and it's normally 4ppl more expensive.
This.

The Shell garage there is very close to the local ASDA and until recently were price-matching them. The past couple of times I've been up that way they were 1-2p more but still a lot less than the 7-9p premium most services are charging these days.

The issue with pumps only supplying V-Power/Ultimate diesel seems to be spreading - mostly because a large number of forecourts are now selling 4 grades of fuel (95RON, 97-99RON, diesel, premium diesel) but each pump only has 3 nozzles. I always think that in this situation all pumps should dispense 95RON and regular diesel, and either 97-99RON or premium diesel - but they don't. Shell on Hardwick Circus in Carlisle is a prime example. 6 pumps, all of which supply 95RON and 99RON. 4 pumps supply regular diesel and 2 *only* V-Power diesel. This causes a lot of consternation as folk work out that only the premium option is available and either drive off or attempt to reverse and join the long queues at the other pumps.

stewjohnst

2,465 posts

168 months

Sunday 30th January 2011
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shirt said:
only truckers, people with fuel cards/expense accounts and the terminally stupid buy fuel from motorway services.
I do get Expenses but even then I'd only top up enough to get me as far as where I knew one of my normal fill ups was.

I've been doing a 500 mile commute up and down the country for about ten years now and for the sake of five extra minutes to pull off a junction and grab normal priced petrol I'd rather do that. There are certain places where you lose almost no time doing it compared to services. Fosse Park at Leicester or Shirley on the M42 are a couple I can think of.

Edit - iphone word mangling fixed.

Edited by stewjohnst on Sunday 30th January 09:55

Zeemax_Mini

1,222 posts

258 months

Sunday 30th January 2011
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Had exactly this happen the other day but with unleaded, can't for the life of me remember where now. Advertised a competitive unleaded price on the road sign, but all pumps were the premium unleaded with a price to match!

Dom

Variomatic

Original Poster:

2,392 posts

168 months

Sunday 30th January 2011
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shirt said:
only truckers, people with fuel cards/expense accounts and the terminally stupid buy fuel from motorway services.
And people with a 15 ft trailer attached to a 16 ft long estate who've been on the road for 7 hours with another 5 to go and don't fancy squeezing it round an unknown town centre in the hope of saving a whole £1.80 on what they'll be putting in rolleyes