** Beware- Do NOT buy from ----------**

[jasgtr]

I bought tyres from this guy from the classified section, he tricked me in to sending the money as a gift and sent me 2 damaged tyres that are of no use. I've tried to emails but no response.
So just a warning to others "DO NOT BUY FROM THIS GUY"!!

Thanks

[SteveS Cup]

No offence but buying something from someone you don't know or have never met over the internet then using paypal is a good option. Sending a "gift" is just plain stupid in my opinion... you may as well just send the cash in an envelope.

I do feel for you though

[AB]

What a horrendous website!

Go and pay him a visit.

[MKR]

Have you told PH Towers? Get the dhead black listed!

[jasgtr]

It was through paypay, but as a gift. I never knew that you have no comebacks if its sent as a gift. I thought paypay was safe no matter what.

[SteveS Cup]

jasgtr said:

It was through paypay, but as a gift. I never knew that you have no comebacks if its sent as a gift. I thought paypay was safe no matter what.

You probably know now but a gift means that the seller doesn't pay the paypal commission so no come back.

[OMNIO]

(URGENT BUSINESS ASSISTANCE STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL)

COMPLIMENTS OF THE SEASON

Good Day!

I am the manager of bills and exchange at the foriegn remittance department of the (ABN AMRO BANK AMSTERDAM ). I am writting you this letter to ask for your support and co-operation to carry out this transaction. We discovered some abandoned sum $15,500,000(FIFTEEN MILLION, FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND U.S DOLLAR ) in an account that belongs to one of our foriegn customer who died along-side his entire family in march this year in a terrorist train bomb blast in Spain some few months ago.Since this development,we have advertised for his next of kin or any close relation to come forward to claim this money,but nobody came yet to apply for the claim.

To this effect,i and other official in my department have decided to look for a trusted foriegn partner who can stand in as the next of kin of the deceased as we cannot do it only ourselves and claim this money.We need a foreign partner to apply for the claim on our behalf because of the fact that the customer was a foreign and we don't want this money to go into the treasury as unclaimed fund.

Every document to effect this process will emanate from my table and i will perfect every document to be in accordance with the banking law and guideline,so you have nothing to worry about and we have agreed that 30% of this money will be for you,while 10%will be for any expenses incured on both sides wihile 60% will be for my colleagues and me. If you are willing to help us,please indicate by replying this letter and putting in your name, private telephone number,fax and permanent residential address via my private email address below.I awaits your immediate response to enable us start this transaction as soon as i recieved your reply,i will send you a text application form for immediate APPLICATIION OF CLAIM.

Please contact me even if you are not intrested in my proposal to you to enable us scout for another partner in the event of non-interest on your part.

Thanks for your co-operation


Did you fall for that one too?

Maybe im being harsh but paying for stuff like tyres from a bloke on the internet is asking for trouble.

Edited by OMNIO on Friday 28th January 10:56

[MKR]

Do I get paid if someone clicks on the advert in my post above?

[RJDM3]

Link to advert?

[Efbe]

jasgtr said:

It was through paypay, but as a gift. I never knew that you have no comebacks if its sent as a gift. I thought paypay was safe no matter what.

you still bought from a business though? (unless he trades as a private individual, in which case he will be in trouble)

in that case you are covered. just threaten trading standards.

It doesn't matter how you paid him, as long as you have proof of payment, twhich paypal gives you.

the way I see it, is if he is registered as a business, then advise him you will be contacting trading standards as the good were not up to spec. give him the chance sort it out etc...
if he idn't, then threaten him with shopping him. I bet he won't be paying tax on his income, so he'll be in a lot more bother.

[Efbe]

SteveS Cup said:

You probably know now but a gift means that the seller doesn't pay the paypal commission so no come back.

this is bull. this is only comeback through paypal. who said that was the only comeback? it's like you guys have taken the ebay terms as national law.

[Bill]

1) Please don't name and shame on PH. I've left this up as there's some useful advice in it.

2) Report the ad if it's in PH classifieds. It might not get it pulled immediately (There are two sides to every story) but it's a start.

[dudleybloke]

pay him a visit and have a 'chat' with him.

[AB]

This is now a useless topic/thread.

[hairyben]

How far does N+S extend? Could you, for example, not mention the person or link to his site but say you wouldn't buy from someone who has a page about .......?

Edited by Bill on Friday 28th January 12:31

[McSam]

Efbe said:

this is bull. this is only comeback through paypal. who said that was the only comeback? it's like you guys have taken the ebay terms as national law.

What he's done by sending the money through PayPal as a personal gift, though, is effectively signing a contract saying that the money is being sent in relation to no goods, purchase or service whatsoever. This makes it bloody hard work to get it back because the tyres are crap!

This is why I never send money by PayPal as a gift unless I know the recipient personally.. It's simple to add the PayPal fees of 3.4% + 20p to the amount you're sending so that the seller gets the right amount, and I consider that a more than worthwhile insurance policy. The reason these fees do not apply to gift transactions is because PayPal expend precisely no time chasing up problems with such transactions.

[Bill]

hairyben said:

How far does N+S extend? Could you, for example, not mention the person or link to his site but say you wouldn't buy from someone who has a page about .......?

Edited by Bill on Friday 28th January 12:31

Nope, that gives enough information to identify the bloke.

Have a look at Ted's reasoning behind the N&S rules

[Bill]

AB said:

This is now a useless topic/thread.

I considered deleting it entirely but there's still some useful information for the OP.

[AB]

Bill said:

AB said:

This is now a useless topic/thread.

I considered deleting it entirely but there's still some useful information for the OP.

But not enough to stop any other PHer from being ripped off.

I hope the advert has been removed?

[Bill]

AB said:

But not enough to stop any other PHer from being ripped off.

I hope the advert has been removed?

That's the thing with all N&S, there are two sides to the story and while it's perfectly possible that the OP's is correct Haymarket and PH don't want to get embroiled in an expensive legal fight trying to establish what has actually happened.

Has the OP reported the ad?