What gives an engine it's sound?

What gives an engine it's sound?

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sebhaque

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6,530 posts

196 months

Wednesday 26th January 2011
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I know the soundtrack of an engine can be influenced heavily by air intakes/exhausts/superchargers etc. But what makes a bog-standard straight-three engine sound different from a straight-four? Same with i5/v6/v8/v12 etc. It's something I've never understood, but I'm guessing the crank shaft configuration comes into it, as Ferrari flat plane V8s sound completely different to (typically) US cross plane V8s. Can anybody shed some light on this?

wackojacko

8,581 posts

205 months

Wednesday 26th January 2011
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Crank angle etc has alot to do with it Seb, also pitch/angle of pistons and firing order and obviously the exhaust on most performance cars have been tweaked to enhance the sound of that particular Engine.

anonymous-user

69 months

Wednesday 26th January 2011
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A lot of it is the pattern and frequency of exhaust pulses so hence the off-beat burble of Volvo 5-pots and the Viper V10.

Mainly influenced by crank angles and firing order. Hence the scream of a Ferrari V8 compared with the rumble of a Chevy V8. Very evident at Le Mans!

wackojacko

8,581 posts

205 months

Wednesday 26th January 2011
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5 USA said:
Very evident at Le Mans!
yes Corvette C6R compared with a Lola Aston is awesome ! .......although not so awesome when extremely hungover...... so my solution is just don't sleep hehe

Caruso

7,497 posts

271 months

Wednesday 26th January 2011
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As has been said crank angle plays a big part together with firing order.

With the right crank angle and firing order you could have a V8 that fires all 4 pistons on one bank at the same time with the other 4 firing 180deg apart and it would be like a V twin.

Or you could have it firing 2 cylinders on 1 bank, then 2 cylinders on the other, then 2 cylinders on the 1st bank etc.

Or you could have it firing alternating cylinders on each bank.

You could even have it firing 3 cylinders then 1 cylinder on alternate banks, but it would sound wrong and introduce unwanted vibrations into the engine.


McSam

6,753 posts

190 months

Wednesday 26th January 2011
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wackojacko said:
5 USA said:
Very evident at Le Mans!
yes Corvette C6R compared with a Lola Aston is awesome ! .......although not so awesome when extremely hungover...... so my solution is just don't sleep hehe
Heard the Spykers? Just a wall of raw noise comes out the back of those things!

wackojacko

8,581 posts

205 months

Wednesday 26th January 2011
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McSam said:
wackojacko said:
5 USA said:
Very evident at Le Mans!
yes Corvette C6R compared with a Lola Aston is awesome ! .......although not so awesome when extremely hungover...... so my solution is just don't sleep hehe
Heard the Spykers? Just a wall of raw noise comes out the back of those things!
3 LeMans trips under my belt so far ..... so ovcourse biggrin

Corvette and Aston Martin get my support for noise and class wins smile

Zod

35,295 posts

273 months

Wednesday 26th January 2011
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petrol - without it they don't make a sound. tongue out

davepoth

29,395 posts

214 months

Wednesday 26th January 2011
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Or diesel. I loved the noise the last rental van I had made. It was a VW Crafter with a V5. Warbly.

wackojacko

8,581 posts

205 months

Wednesday 26th January 2011
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davepoth said:
Or diesel. I loved the noise the last rental van I had made. It was a VW Crafter with a V5. Warbly.
Talking of Diesels + the LeMans talk = the Audi Diesels sound pretty awesome ...... for a diesel hehe

B'stard Child

30,304 posts

261 months

Thursday 27th January 2011
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Combustion - petrol on it's own is silent

Stedman

7,329 posts

207 months

Thursday 27th January 2011
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Could be complete poo, but doesn't the inlet manifold have something to do with ?

Caruso

7,497 posts

271 months

Thursday 27th January 2011
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Stedman said:
Could be complete poo, but doesn't the inlet manifold have something to do with ?
Not if you are capable of comprehending the OP. Otherwise yes, it does make a big difference.

Caruso

7,497 posts

271 months

Thursday 27th January 2011
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Stedman said:
Could be complete poo, but doesn't the inlet manifold have something to do with ?
Not if you are capable of comprehending the OP. Otherwise yes, it does make a big difference.

Stedman

7,329 posts

207 months

Thursday 27th January 2011
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Caruso said:
Stedman said:
Could be complete poo, but doesn't the inlet manifold have something to do with ?
Not if you are capable of comprehending the OP. Otherwise yes, it does make a big difference.
hehe Stupid reply by me! redcard


sebhaque

Original Poster:

6,530 posts

196 months

Thursday 27th January 2011
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Thanks for the responses guys. Something I've been pondering for a while. smile

*Al*

3,830 posts

237 months

Thursday 27th January 2011
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Firing orders and configuration ie, straight 3,4,5,6 or flat 4,6, V8, V10,V12 etc etc.All have their own signature to sound.

lazy_b

381 posts

251 months

Thursday 27th January 2011
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Why do flat fours sound different from straight fours? They are both symmetrical, and the firing orders are the same, but flat fours have a distint "burble".

McSam

6,753 posts

190 months

Thursday 27th January 2011
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wackojacko said:
3 LeMans trips under my belt so far ..... so ovcourse biggrin

Corvette and Aston Martin get my support for noise and class wins smile
...
Talking of Diesels + the LeMans talk = the Audi Diesels sound pretty awesome ...... for a diesel hehe
Good man wink

The Audis were a surprise for me.. A load of hushed induction roar and gear whine as it approaches, and a very deep, low roar as it goes by. Awesome in the most literal sense of the word, because it feels like a massive amount of power being forcibly restrained.. But they're only awesome until a Pescarolo screams by, tries to set fire to itself on the overrun, and is about four times louder biggrin

Corvettes bouncing off their pitlane limiter, now that's an impressive one. Standing maybe a hundred yards away, the thing nearly shook my beer out of my hand!

Henry Fiddleton

1,594 posts

192 months

Thursday 27th January 2011
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At Le Mans, the F430s bouncing off the limiter in the pit lane sound some what electric.

The blue flames from the exhaust at night were also equally as magical.