DRLs, OEM and retro-fit; the official word!
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I just found this legal requirements doc on the WWW, thought some of you may be interested if you have, or are considering fitting aftermarket DRLs.
http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/roads/vehicles/vssafety/...
I have them and I conform but I didn't have the above when I added them.
I think there are mixed opinions on them, personally I find that a lot less people pull out in front of me from the inner lane when I'm in the outer lane on D/C's and M'ways now and less people appear to pull out in front of me at roundabouts and from side roads.
They are a legal requirement on all new cars from next month (Feb 2011).
http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/roads/vehicles/vssafety/...
I have them and I conform but I didn't have the above when I added them.
I think there are mixed opinions on them, personally I find that a lot less people pull out in front of me from the inner lane when I'm in the outer lane on D/C's and M'ways now and less people appear to pull out in front of me at roundabouts and from side roads.
They are a legal requirement on all new cars from next month (Feb 2011).
V88Dicky said:
Did I catch that right? You've spent time and money retro-fitting DRL's to your car?
Why don't you just put your headlights on?
Correct - it is a better use of the front foglamp location, took little time and cost peanuts.Why don't you just put your headlights on?
According to that document, it is not legal to use dipped headlights or any other form of lighting other than sidelights during the day when visibility is good.
And despite the above, I would not wish to keep using my headlights as the bulb life is shortened, they are expensive to replace and difficult to replace (headlight removal required).
Edited by Kentish on Thursday 20th January 11:55
Guvernator said:
V88Dicky said:
Did I catch that right? You've spent time and money retro-fitting DRL's to your car?
Why don't you just put your headlights on?
Because that wouldn't be as cool in the MaccieD's car park. DRL's, the new "neons" of the 21st century Why don't you just put your headlights on?
(only kidding OP)
No strip light LEDs on my car
Kentish said:
V88Dicky said:
Did I catch that right? You've spent time and money retro-fitting DRL's to your car?
Why don't you just put your headlights on?
Correct - it is a better use of the front foglamp location, took little time and cost peanuts.Why don't you just put your headlights on?
According to that document, it is not legal to use dipped headlights or any other form of lighting other than sidelights during the day when visibility is good.
But some DRLs seem no brighter than sidelights anyway. On the other hand, some are as bright as a million supernovas and are
Edited by V88Dicky on Thursday 20th January 12:00
V88Dicky said:
Kentish said:
V88Dicky said:
Did I catch that right? You've spent time and money retro-fitting DRL's to your car?
Why don't you just put your headlights on?
Correct - it is a better use of the front foglamp location, took little time and cost peanuts.Why don't you just put your headlights on?
According to that document, it is not legal to use dipped headlights or any other form of lighting other than sidelights during the day when visibility is good.
But some DRLs seem no brighter than sidelights anyway. On the other hand, some are as bright as a million supernovas and a really quite distracting!
Any BiB input on this?
V88Dicky said:
Kentish said:
V88Dicky said:
Did I catch that right? You've spent time and money retro-fitting DRL's to your car?
Why don't you just put your headlights on?
Correct - it is a better use of the front foglamp location, took little time and cost peanuts.Why don't you just put your headlights on?
According to that document, it is not legal to use dipped headlights or any other form of lighting other than sidelights during the day when visibility is good.
But some DRLs seem no brighter than sidelights anyway. On the other hand, some are as bright as a million supernovas and a really quite distracting!
It really was easy to do and so far has made a noticeable difference to people making daft manouvres in front of me.
Even if people aren't purposely checking their mirrors, I think their peripheral vision more easily notice the lights on a car coming down the outer lane as the image moves towards them in the mirror, seems to heighten awareness of proximity.
anonymous said:
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Volvo do not use dipped beams as DRL's, they use side lights or reduced output form headlights. Have you ever seen a Volvo?Info here btw:- http://www.dadrl.org.uk/lawcompensation.html
Great - another reason I will not be buying a new car anytime soon.
This just sounds like a load of excuses to justify fitting DRL's.
This just sounds like a load of excuses to justify fitting DRL's.
Kentish said:
Correct - it is a better use of the front foglamp location, took little time and cost peanuts. Go on - tell us how much time and cost went into it.
According to that document, it is not legal to use dipped headlights or any other form of lighting other than sidelights during the day when visibility is good. Sure motorbikes advised to use dipped beam at all times?
And despite the above, I would not wish to keep using my headlights as the bulb life is shortened, they are expensive to replace and difficult to replace (headlight removal required). 59p for the last bulb I bought.
According to that document, it is not legal to use dipped headlights or any other form of lighting other than sidelights during the day when visibility is good. Sure motorbikes advised to use dipped beam at all times?
And despite the above, I would not wish to keep using my headlights as the bulb life is shortened, they are expensive to replace and difficult to replace (headlight removal required). 59p for the last bulb I bought.
Edited by Kentish on Thursday 20th January 11:55
inkiboo said:
Kentish said:
According to that document, it is not legal to use dipped headlights or any other form of lighting other than sidelights during the day when visibility is good.
It would appear you can not read or have trouble understanding English. I quote:"Drivers of vehicles that are not fitted with DRL are not required to turn on their headlamps or position lamps during the day unless visibility is very poor."
That means you HAVE to turn them on when visibility is poor. It doesn't mean you can't have them on when visibility is good.
Torquey said:
Great - another reason I will not be buying a new car anytime soon.
This just sounds like a load of excuses to justify fitting DRL's.
59p for an HID xenon headlight bulb, link please to source?This just sounds like a load of excuses to justify fitting DRL's.
Kentish said:
Correct - it is a better use of the front foglamp location, took little time and cost peanuts. Go on - tell us how much time and cost went into it.
According to that document, it is not legal to use dipped headlights or any other form of lighting other than sidelights during the day when visibility is good. Sure motorbikes advised to use dipped beam at all times?
And despite the above, I would not wish to keep using my headlights as the bulb life is shortened, they are expensive to replace and difficult to replace (headlight removal required). 59p for the last bulb I bought.
According to that document, it is not legal to use dipped headlights or any other form of lighting other than sidelights during the day when visibility is good. Sure motorbikes advised to use dipped beam at all times?
And despite the above, I would not wish to keep using my headlights as the bulb life is shortened, they are expensive to replace and difficult to replace (headlight removal required). 59p for the last bulb I bought.
Edited by Kentish on Thursday 20th January 11:55
inkiboo said:
1. Get in car
2. Turn your light switch one position to the right
3. You now have DRLs
How do you stop it dimming the instruments?2. Turn your light switch one position to the right
3. You now have DRLs
And dont say turn up the wick as it's still not bright enough in daylight
Why doesnt instrument dimming only happen with headlights rather than sidelights?
L100NYY said:
Illegal to use headlights in daylight!!!!
I used to always have mine on when on the motorway.So, in summary - a s
t idea and I should remove them immediately and we should all petition to have the law changed for their implementation on new cars from next month.Main beam, far more effective.
Kentish said:
I repeat.....HID headlights expensive to replace and difficult involving headlight removal.
Also, not legal to use dipped headlights or foglights in daytimne unless reduced visibility.
Cheap aftermarket DRL's are about as reliable as a politician.Also, not legal to use dipped headlights or foglights in daytimne unless reduced visibility.
AA said:
Daytime use of headlights
There followed much discussion over whether cars across Europe should have their headlights on all the time the engine was running – many countries introduced local rules while the European commission considered possible pan-European rules and compulsory technical standards for new cars.
By 2006 12 countries required drivers to drive with their headlights on all year round including Sweden since 1977, Iceland, Latvia, Macedonia and Norway since around 1980, Denmark since 1990 and Romania, Slovenia and parts of Portugal since 1998.
Four – Lithuania, Poland, Slovakia and the Czech Republic – required this in the winter only while Hungary and Italy required daytime running lights outside built up areas.
The UK never introduced a daytime running light rule
There followed much discussion over whether cars across Europe should have their headlights on all the time the engine was running – many countries introduced local rules while the European commission considered possible pan-European rules and compulsory technical standards for new cars.
By 2006 12 countries required drivers to drive with their headlights on all year round including Sweden since 1977, Iceland, Latvia, Macedonia and Norway since around 1980, Denmark since 1990 and Romania, Slovenia and parts of Portugal since 1998.
Four – Lithuania, Poland, Slovakia and the Czech Republic – required this in the winter only while Hungary and Italy required daytime running lights outside built up areas.
The UK never introduced a daytime running light rule
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