Driving with a leaking water pump?

Driving with a leaking water pump?

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Goochie

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5,671 posts

224 months

Wednesday 19th January 2011
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Our 1.6 FSI Audi A2 seems to have sprung a leak at the water pump despite having covered just 49k miles. They have aplastic impellor which is a know weak point on this engine.

The car came with AA cover and a warranty so will be going back to the supplying dealer to have it fixed.

However, the AA cant take it to the dealer until the morning when I'll be at work. Therefore it would be easier to have the car there with me for them to collect. Its a 3 mile drive that takes about 15 minutes.

If I brim the header tank before I leave, whats the worst that could happen? Is it likely to jam and result in cambelt / engine death ?

davepoth

29,395 posts

204 months

Wednesday 19th January 2011
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If it does, I doubt the warranty will cover it if they've offered to pick it up. 3 miles in 15 minutes is 12mph, I guess it's a lot of traffic? I think you'd be at high risk of damaging the engine. If it was all open roads and it was an all iron engine I might have risked it.

A taxi to work will be much cheaper than a new engine.

VeeFour

3,339 posts

167 months

Wednesday 19th January 2011
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Get a taxi / lift / bus to work.

Tie key for car to a piece of string, and hang behind your front door, so the collector can reach through the letterbox for it.

BliarOut

72,857 posts

244 months

Wednesday 19th January 2011
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The worst? An engine that's beyond economic repair. No water = overheat = potential warped head.

jayfish

6,795 posts

208 months

Wednesday 19th January 2011
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15 min drive, no worries unless it's niagra falls under there.

mike9009

7,446 posts

248 months

Wednesday 19th January 2011
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I wouldn't risk it. Topping up the water will make no difference to engine cooling efficiency if the water pump is cooked. I had similar happen to my mx5 earlier this year. The car would overheat after about half a mile due to no circulation of water. Eventually got it to a garage a mile away after two journeys!

Hth

Mike


Edited by mike9009 on Wednesday 19th January 21:40

BliarOut

72,857 posts

244 months

Wednesday 19th January 2011
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jayfish said:
15 min drive, no worries unless it's niagra falls under there.
Do you run a cylinder head refacing company? rofl

Larry Dickman

3,762 posts

223 months

Wednesday 19th January 2011
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BliarOut said:
jayfish said:
15 min drive, no worries unless it's niagra falls under there.
Do you run a cylinder head refacing company? rofl
He's right.

If it's pouring out he's taking a risk. If it's dripping out he'll have no problems.

Edited by Larry Dickman on Wednesday 19th January 21:54

VeeFour

3,339 posts

167 months

Wednesday 19th January 2011
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Suppose it depends on what's wrong with the pump.

If the impeller is no longer functioning, then you really don't want to drive it.

I had a Golf+ courtesy car a couple of years back - the fan belt fell off, meaning the waterpump was no longer being driven. It overheated in just a couple of miles.

Worst thing about VAGs is that they have an ECU controlled temperature gauge, which shows dead centre over a range of tens of degrees - you only know the engine is cooking when it's too late.

Defcon5

6,276 posts

196 months

Wednesday 19th January 2011
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Are they still using those water pumps? They have had issues with them for over 10 years!

BliarOut

72,857 posts

244 months

Wednesday 19th January 2011
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Larry Dickman said:
BliarOut said:
jayfish said:
15 min drive, no worries unless it's niagra falls under there.
Do you run a cylinder head refacing company? rofl
He's right.

If it's pouring out he's taking a risk. If it's dripping out he'll have no problems.

Edited by Larry Dickman on Wednesday 19th January 21:54
The question was "What's the worse that can happen?" so I would venture that he's very very wrong tongue out

If the question was "Will I get away with it?" then he might have a point biggrin

Larry Dickman

3,762 posts

223 months

Wednesday 19th January 2011
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BliarOut said:
Larry Dickman said:
BliarOut said:
jayfish said:
15 min drive, no worries unless it's niagra falls under there.
Do you run a cylinder head refacing company? rofl
He's right.

If it's pouring out he's taking a risk. If it's dripping out he'll have no problems.

Edited by Larry Dickman on Wednesday 19th January 21:54
The question was "What's the worse that can happen?" so I would venture that he's very very wrong tongue out

If the question was "Will I get away with it?" then he might have a point biggrin
The question was also, "Is it likely to jam and result in cambelt / engine death ?" smile

BliarOut

72,857 posts

244 months

Wednesday 19th January 2011
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Depends on how it's driven (the pump that is) but engine death is definitely the worst case scenario and as it's already logged as failed there wouldn't be any comeback biggrin

arfur daley

834 posts

171 months

Wednesday 19th January 2011
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Ooh I know, lets make the water pump out of plastic, that should save us 10p per car. Yeah good idea.nuts

Goochie

Original Poster:

5,671 posts

224 months

Wednesday 19th January 2011
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Right then........ Phoned the AA who said their man would be with me in an hour. Two hours later another recovery truck turned up who had been contracted to do the job on their behalf.

He looked around using the light from his mobile phone screen as a torch before pronouncing that the pump was fine. I pointed out the flood of water and explained the 1 ltr per 3 mile coolant consumption and he said it must be the seal.

He did remove the header tank lid whilst the engine was running and sure enough, there was some flow into the top of the tank.

His solution was to send me to Halfords in the morning to buy some Radweld!!

I wont be doing that and will be contacting the supplying dealer tomorrow to get them to collect the car.

B'stard Child

29,031 posts

251 months

Wednesday 19th January 2011
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VeeFour said:
Worst thing about VAGs is that they have an ECU controlled temperature gauge, which shows dead centre over a range of tens of degrees - you only know the engine is cooking when it's too late.
Also same with BMW - normal to buried in the red in a nanosecond

jayfish

6,795 posts

208 months

Thursday 20th January 2011
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BliarOut said:
jayfish said:
15 min drive, no worries unless it's niagra falls under there.
Do you run a cylinder head refacing company? rofl
No :P but I did run a FIAT with a cracked block for three months on a daily 30 mile round trip and it took me that long to totally kill it wink

Trooper2

6,676 posts

236 months

Thursday 20th January 2011
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Leave the radiator/coolant reservoir cap attached but backed off so the cooling system can't presurize and that will slow down the leaking. It's a little trick I have used when I've had to get across town with a pin hole in a rad hose, etc. But as some one has said, if it looks like Niagra Falls I wouldn't risk it.