Choosing the right tyre

[hijacker]

Hi,

My car came supplied from factory with 215/60/R16 99 V tyres but the EU Certificate of Conformity states a tyre size of 215/60/R16 94H.

Which tyres would you replace with bearing in mind I can save between £120 and £175 on a set of 4 depending on tyre choice.

Thanks.

[hijacker]

Car used for normal road use.

[carmonk]

The load difference is a total of 420kg and the speed difference 19mph so without knowing anything about your car it's impossible to say which is best.

[JR]

carmonk said:

The load difference is a total of 420kg and the speed difference 19mph so without knowing anything about your car it's impossible to say which is best.

I think that it's a Galaxy. What does the handbook say. If in doubt fit the 99 V ones. No point driving around worrying.

[hijacker]

I didn't mention the car initially because it may affect your decision. It's a MK3 Galaxy diesel.

So now you may say well heavy car, carrying 7 people, wouldn't risk it etc.... but if the Certificate of Conformity states a 94H then why fit a 99V ??

The cynic in me says that tyre manufacturers approach Ford and say we would like to supply you with a tyre for this car. Ford give the spec of 94H but tyre guy says I will give you better with a 99V for a discount on a 94H. Ford guy says "Wow I'll take that."

So Ford buyer reports an improved spec for a lower price pleasing his bosses and tyre guy secures future sales of a higher rated and more importantly, expensive, tyre to his bosses.

Punter is unaware of true spec for tyre and continue to spend more than he needs.

[hijacker]

JR said:

carmonk said:

The load difference is a total of 420kg and the speed difference 19mph so without knowing anything about your car it's impossible to say which is best.

I think that it's a Galaxy. What does the handbook say. If in doubt fit the 99 V ones. No point driving around worrying.

The handbook states : 215/60 R16. That's it !!

I'm not in doubt given the information from Ford and would only be worried about having be ripped off for a tyre I didn't need.

Edited by hijacker on Tuesday 18th January 19:12

Edited by hijacker on Tuesday 18th January 19:16

[rfn]

What's the kerb weight of the car? And what is the MGW?

[hijacker]

rfn said:

What's the kerb weight of the car? And what is the MGW?

Kerb Weight = 1799

MGW = 2505

[rfn]

hijacker said:

rfn said:

What's the kerb weight of the car? And what is the MGW?

Kerb Weight = 1799

MGW = 2505

Load rating of 94, as recommended by Ford, gives a Max Load of 2680 - so surely they'd be fine for the application UNLESS you were towing?

[JR]

hijacker said:

I didn't mention the car initially because it may affect your decision. It's a MK3 Galaxy diesel.

So now you may say well heavy car, carrying 7 people, wouldn't risk it etc.... but if the Certificate of Conformity states a 94H then why fit a 99V ??

The cynic in me says that tyre manufacturers approach Ford and say we would like to supply you with a tyre for this car. Ford give the spec of 94H but tyre guy says I will give you better with a 99V for a discount on a 94H. Ford guy says "Wow I'll take that."

So Ford buyer reports an improved spec for a lower price pleasing his bosses and tyre guy secures future sales of a higher rated and more importantly, expensive, tyre to his bosses.

Punter is unaware of true spec for tyre and continue to spend more than he needs.

I'm with you all the way there.

The other important thing is the use to which the vehicle is being put. Only you know this so far. There's no 'one answer fits all.'

FWIW I'd check the rim width and price of 225/55/16s.

[hijacker]

JR said:

hijacker said:

I didn't mention the car initially because it may affect your decision. It's a MK3 Galaxy diesel.

So now you may say well heavy car, carrying 7 people, wouldn't risk it etc.... but if the Certificate of Conformity states a 94H then why fit a 99V ??

The cynic in me says that tyre manufacturers approach Ford and say we would like to supply you with a tyre for this car. Ford give the spec of 94H but tyre guy says I will give you better with a 99V for a discount on a 94H. Ford guy says "Wow I'll take that."

So Ford buyer reports an improved spec for a lower price pleasing his bosses and tyre guy secures future sales of a higher rated and more importantly, expensive, tyre to his bosses.

Punter is unaware of true spec for tyre and continue to spend more than he needs.

I'm with you all the way there.

The other important thing is the use to which the vehicle is being put. Only you know this so far. There's no 'one answer fits all.'

FWIW I'd check the rim width and price of 225/55/16s.

Regarding the use of the vehicle, I would hope that Ford gave that consideration when creating the initial specification. It shouldn't come as a surprise to them that it's a 7 seat MPV that might be used for its purpose !!

Could I ask why to price a 225/55/16 ?

[busta]

I imagine the certificate of conformity shows the minimum permissible tyre rating. So you should have no problem with a tyre that meets of exceed the rating, but a lower rated tyre- an 84 T for example, would not be suitable.

[hijacker]

busta said:

I imagine the certificate of conformity shows the minimum permissible tyre rating. So you should have no problem with a tyre that meets of exceed the rating, but a lower rated tyre- an 84 T for example, would not be suitable.

Happy with that.

Just to be clear though, I'm not trying to buy a lower spec than required just trying not to buy a higher spec than I require.

Also, I spoke to my insurer and they said as long as it meets the required spec then I'm okay. Just further qualifies the conspiracy theory between the car and tyre manufacturer !!

[DubZeus]

hijacker said:

JR said:

hijacker said:

I didn't mention the car initially because it may affect your decision. It's a MK3 Galaxy diesel.

So now you may say well heavy car, carrying 7 people, wouldn't risk it etc.... but if the Certificate of Conformity states a 94H then why fit a 99V ??

The cynic in me says that tyre manufacturers approach Ford and say we would like to supply you with a tyre for this car. Ford give the spec of 94H but tyre guy says I will give you better with a 99V for a discount on a 94H. Ford guy says "Wow I'll take that."

So Ford buyer reports an improved spec for a lower price pleasing his bosses and tyre guy secures future sales of a higher rated and more importantly, expensive, tyre to his bosses.

Punter is unaware of true spec for tyre and continue to spend more than he needs.

I'm with you all the way there.

The other important thing is the use to which the vehicle is being put. Only you know this so far. There's no 'one answer fits all.'

FWIW I'd check the rim width and price of 225/55/16s.

Regarding the use of the vehicle, I would hope that Ford gave that consideration when creating the initial specification. It shouldn't come as a surprise to them that it's a 7 seat MPV that might be used for its purpose !!

Could I ask why to price a 225/55/16 ?

225/55s are more common and the rolling radius is the same give or take a few mm

[busta]

hijacker said:

busta said:

I imagine the certificate of conformity shows the minimum permissible tyre rating. So you should have no problem with a tyre that meets of exceed the rating, but a lower rated tyre- an 84 T for example, would not be suitable.

Happy with that.

Just to be clear though, I'm not trying to buy a lower spec than required just trying not to buy a higher spec than I require.

Also, I spoke to my insurer and they said as long as it meets the required spec then I'm okay. Just further qualifies the conspiracy theory between the car and tyre manufacturer !!

Indeed. Not sure of your conspiracy theory though. Not every tyre is made in every rating, so it may just be the closest and most suitable tyre they could get from their preferred manufacturer. You know have a choice from a lot more manufacturers, and new tyres will have come onto the market, so what's most economical for you will more than likely be different to what was economical for Ford at the time.

[hijacker]

DubZeus said:

hijacker said:

JR said:

hijacker said:

I didn't mention the car initially because it may affect your decision. It's a MK3 Galaxy diesel.

So now you may say well heavy car, carrying 7 people, wouldn't risk it etc.... but if the Certificate of Conformity states a 94H then why fit a 99V ??

The cynic in me says that tyre manufacturers approach Ford and say we would like to supply you with a tyre for this car. Ford give the spec of 94H but tyre guy says I will give you better with a 99V for a discount on a 94H. Ford guy says "Wow I'll take that."

So Ford buyer reports an improved spec for a lower price pleasing his bosses and tyre guy secures future sales of a higher rated and more importantly, expensive, tyre to his bosses.

Punter is unaware of true spec for tyre and continue to spend more than he needs.

I'm with you all the way there.

The other important thing is the use to which the vehicle is being put. Only you know this so far. There's no 'one answer fits all.'

FWIW I'd check the rim width and price of 225/55/16s.

Next tyre size Ford provided was a 225/50/17 and this was a Y rating !!!


Regarding the use of the vehicle, I would hope that Ford gave that consideration when creating the initial specification. It shouldn't come as a surprise to them that it's a 7 seat MPV that might be used for its purpose !!

Could I ask why to price a 225/55/16 ?

225/55s are more common and the rolling radius is the same give or take a few mm

Insurer also said that changing tyre width or aspect would be classed as a modification so won't be going down that route.

Checked the price though and about £25 more expensive per tyre.

Edited by hijacker on Tuesday 18th January 19:52