Taking all 4 wheels of my car - axle stands only? Or more...

Taking all 4 wheels of my car - axle stands only? Or more...

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boomboompow

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6,795 posts

189 months

Tuesday 18th January 2011
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My alloys are getting refurbished next week and logistically it's easier to take all 4 wheels off at my dad's workshop, then cart them down to the refurbishers and back. This means the car will be without its wheels for 24 hours max. We have: 4x Axle stands, 2x Jacks, 1x Secure workshop and tons of wood/bricks/materials for building supports.

So apart from getting the thing onto the axle stands, what other supports would you recommend to offset my fear of the thing slipping, sill first, onto the concrete? Leave both jacks in appropriate places? Build up supports with brick and wood? Dad reckons it’ll be fine on the stands only but I’m not convinced; my 9-3 isn’t as light as his MG BGT!

sebhaque

6,473 posts

186 months

Tuesday 18th January 2011
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I asked this question last year too. Consensus was that unless you start dropping engines etc you'll be fine on 4 axle stands.

Alfachick

1,639 posts

202 months

Tuesday 18th January 2011
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You will be fine with just axle stands. They are designed to take like at least 1.5 tons each. Also they are designed to hold cars up, unlike piles of wood or bricks which will be much more unstable.

But if you are still worried then it wouldn't hurt to put extra material next to the axle stands if you wanted. Although it will be a waste of time IMHO.

alolympic

700 posts

202 months

Tuesday 18th January 2011
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Axle stands best way forward with wheels off, provided you use strong stands, with good wide feet.
For reassurance, place wood blocks, or spare tyres underneath the car too, along the sills for example, that would cushion the car in case of a drop.

Kentish

15,169 posts

239 months

Tuesday 18th January 2011
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I sent my wheels on my Audi convertible for refurb and used 4 axle stands intially but I noticed that the body flexed as the door gap changed a bit with the entire weight of the engine out in front of the axle stand.

It was OK doing one side at a time but both sides in the air together, I feel would have been a mistake.

I used a pair of ramps under the engine mounts and front suspension instead and that worked a treat. I jacked the car and pushed them under with a block of woork on top of the ramp to protect the car a littel more.

boomboompow

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6,795 posts

189 months

Tuesday 18th January 2011
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Kentish said:
I sent my wheels on my Audi convertible for refurb and used 4 axle stands intially but I noticed that the body flexed as the door gap changed a bit with the entire weight of the engine out in front of the axle stand.

It was OK doing one side at a time but both sides in the air together, I feel would have been a mistake.

I used a pair of ramps under the engine mounts and front suspension instead and that worked a treat. I jacked the car and pushed them under with a block of woork on top of the ramp to protect the car a littel more.
This is what I was most afriad of, but figure if I have one of the jacks supporting the front that would help things. Got a couple of old tyres as well so can always stack them up under the engine to give more support if need be.

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volvoforlife

724 posts

168 months

Tuesday 18th January 2011
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I left mine on axel stands for a week while the wheels were being blasted and powder coated.

r11co

6,244 posts

235 months

Tuesday 18th January 2011
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My advice is use 3 stands and the spare wheel on the rear with the handbrake on good and tight and chocks either side of the wheel. Four stands are fine once it is off the ground, but the car can get a bit unstable while being lifted and dropped on to stands unless all four corners are raised and then lowered at the same time. Using the spare gives the car a little rocking leeway while being lifted.

You might be ok with 4 stands using the two jacks simultaneously if you can co-ordinate lifting/lowering with a mate (raise front end, drop on to stands, then move jacks and raise the back).

steve singh

3,995 posts

178 months

Tuesday 18th January 2011
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I seem to recall on a conversation re my previous E46 M3 the sense was the axel stands have to sit on the jacking points and not supporting the axels as the name suggests?

May or may not be of help.

J4CKO

42,426 posts

205 months

Tuesday 18th January 2011
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I have done that in the past but if under it I dig my ramps out and stick them under it, along with the wheels and anything else that will keep it off me if it falls, might seem overkill but someone was visiting next door and to turn round reversed up my drive and judged the car I was under well enough (didnt know that at the time)but didnt see all my stuff on the floor and reversed over it !

Cue one sheepish looking old lady being told off by an angry me, pretty alarming being under a car and hearing metal scraping, an engine revving and the back of a car coming for the one you are under, luckily nothing was broken but my pants needed changing biggrin

Basically, dont ever leave to to chance, visualise lying under a car havign the life crushed out of you and you soon get pretty safe, that incident decided me, as did a chap on Scoobynet sayign how a friend died under a Transit he was working on.


Love the idea of the Audi gradually turning into a Banana !

r11co

6,244 posts

235 months

Tuesday 18th January 2011
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J4CKO said:
I have done that in the past but if under it I dig my ramps out and stick them under it, along with the wheels and anything else that will keep it off me if it falls...
Yeah. This. Leave the jacks under the car too but just under slight pressure in case anything slips.