407 , Opinions please
Discussion
Posted this in the French Bred section , no replies as yet so I thought I'd throw it open to a wider audience in GG
I'm seriously considering buying a 2006 Peugeot 407 SW 2.0 HDi 136 Executive Manual.
Ebay item no 290516927125 ( Link used not working )
I've read quite a few reviews on line , from motoring journalists and private owners.
There seems to be a definite undercurrent of seriously peeved owners reporting quite serious failures both mechanically and with the dealers attitude, but the general consensus is that they are quite well put together , quiet and an all round enjoyable drive.
I tend to think that it is usually the disgruntled that are more likely to take to the internet and slate a product they're not happy with so the proportion of unhappy owners is artificially inflated
Anyone on here care to add their experiences good or bad ?
I'm seriously considering buying a 2006 Peugeot 407 SW 2.0 HDi 136 Executive Manual.
Ebay item no 290516927125 ( Link used not working )
I've read quite a few reviews on line , from motoring journalists and private owners.
There seems to be a definite undercurrent of seriously peeved owners reporting quite serious failures both mechanically and with the dealers attitude, but the general consensus is that they are quite well put together , quiet and an all round enjoyable drive.
I tend to think that it is usually the disgruntled that are more likely to take to the internet and slate a product they're not happy with so the proportion of unhappy owners is artificially inflated
Anyone on here care to add their experiences good or bad ?
Edited by R60EST on Monday 17th January 23:47
Your link doesn't work.
I briefly considered these on the basis they looked like good value, but some of the reviews I read suggested they have an odd driving position and it is difficult to get comfortable in them. I already had an uncomfortable car that I wanted to replace for precisely that reason, so I bought something else instead.
(That's no help at all, is it?
)
I briefly considered these on the basis they looked like good value, but some of the reviews I read suggested they have an odd driving position and it is difficult to get comfortable in them. I already had an uncomfortable car that I wanted to replace for precisely that reason, so I bought something else instead.
(That's no help at all, is it?
)I'm sure you've seen these but:
autoexpress
A disappointing result. And you don'’t have to look far to find where the main problem lies. You tell us that reliability is appalling and that build quality is well below the standards expected in the fiercely competitive family car sector. ETA - 5th from bottom of all cars (147/152)
Top Gear rate it 1/5 for reliability, 1/5 for craftmanship
autoexpress
A disappointing result. And you don'’t have to look far to find where the main problem lies. You tell us that reliability is appalling and that build quality is well below the standards expected in the fiercely competitive family car sector. ETA - 5th from bottom of all cars (147/152)
Top Gear rate it 1/5 for reliability, 1/5 for craftmanship
Edited by geeteeaye on Monday 17th January 23:49
geeteeaye said:
I'm sure you've seen these but:
autoexpress
A disappointing result. And you don'’t have to look far to find where the main problem lies. You tell us that reliability is appalling and that build quality is well below the standards expected in the fiercely competitive family car sector.
Top Gear rate it 1/5 for reliability, 1/5 for craftmanship
Yes , I've read some really bad reviews for them and strangely some really good ones , hard to decide what to believe. I wouldn't normally consider a mid range model of this ilk but the executive one looks rather good value if it proves to be reliable , my other choice would be a Honda Accord , similar age / spec / priceautoexpress
A disappointing result. And you don'’t have to look far to find where the main problem lies. You tell us that reliability is appalling and that build quality is well below the standards expected in the fiercely competitive family car sector.
Top Gear rate it 1/5 for reliability, 1/5 for craftmanship
R60EST said:
geeteeaye said:
I'm sure you've seen these but:
autoexpress
A disappointing result. And you don'’t have to look far to find where the main problem lies. You tell us that reliability is appalling and that build quality is well below the standards expected in the fiercely competitive family car sector.
Top Gear rate it 1/5 for reliability, 1/5 for craftmanship
Yes , I've read some really bad reviews for them and strangely some really good ones , hard to decide what to believe. I wouldn't normally consider a mid range model of this ilk but the executive one looks rather good value if it proves to be reliable , my other choice would be a Honda Accord , similar age / spec / priceautoexpress
A disappointing result. And you don'’t have to look far to find where the main problem lies. You tell us that reliability is appalling and that build quality is well below the standards expected in the fiercely competitive family car sector.
Top Gear rate it 1/5 for reliability, 1/5 for craftmanship
Before you are inundated with "French crap, don't touch them" comments, let me just say that I have run a 407 for three years and it's been a great car. Comfortable, spacious, refined, full of equipment, happy on the motorway for cross-European jaunts, a great tow car, pretty good as a recce car (allegedly...), reliable and remarkebly cheap to maintain (£800 in three years/60,000 miles, including tyres, bulbs, servicing, first MOT).
OK, so mine is the 2.2 diesel so has a bit more poke and less turbo lag by all accounts (there are two of them) but I hope this gives you an idea of real-world ownership. I've previously had a couple of 406s and they were good cars, too; the 407 is a step on from these. I was very happy to get back in my Peugeot after a few days in a Mondeo not so long ago.
OK, so mine is the 2.2 diesel so has a bit more poke and less turbo lag by all accounts (there are two of them) but I hope this gives you an idea of real-world ownership. I've previously had a couple of 406s and they were good cars, too; the 407 is a step on from these. I was very happy to get back in my Peugeot after a few days in a Mondeo not so long ago.
One thing I've noticed with 407s is how the driving experience is extremely variable from car to car. Some 407s I've driven are wonderfully smooth, others feel like absolute sheds at similar mileage. It really is very apparent how the vehicle has been treated through its life, much more so than pretty much anything else I can think of. The good ones drive brilliantly; a big giveaway with a poorly treated example is the slackness of the gearbox. The change is mushy anyway, but gearboxes on poorly treated examples are incredibly slack with noticeably less definition between ratios.
Build quality is average at best, reliability not as bad as some will preach, IMHO. Anybody who disagrees with this must forgive me as I have had a drink or 5 this evening.
Build quality is average at best, reliability not as bad as some will preach, IMHO. Anybody who disagrees with this must forgive me as I have had a drink or 5 this evening.
Thanks for the input , went to see it today and I don't think the 407 is the car for me. This particular example was not as good as it looked in the pictures , every panel had some mark or scratch on it , the front has very minor un-repaired accident damage. Overall though , for an estate , the load space is pretty poor and the whole car didn't feel particularly good.
Plan B Honda Accord Diesel Estate
Plan C Jag X Type Diesel Estate
Plan B Honda Accord Diesel Estate
Plan C Jag X Type Diesel Estate
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